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free C compiler for HCS12 ? - Anh Quan Nguyen - Apr 14 16:12:00 2005
Hi everyone,
is there anyone know a free C compiler for HCS12 ?
I am using S12Compact Kit.
It take so long to program in Assembly language.
Thankx in advance,
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Re: free C compiler for HCS12 ? - BobG...@... - Apr 14 16:37:00 2005
In a message dated 4/14/05 4:16:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
naquan2812@naqu... writes:
It take so long to program in Assembly language.
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How much is your time worth? $20 an hour? If you save 10 hours, you can buy
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Re: free C compiler for HCS12 ? - Salvador Tenorio - Apr 14 16:42:00 2005
Get ICC12 (from image craft) evaluation version and you will see how good it is and will be glad to pay for the standard version, which is just a couple hundred $.
If you are still cheap, go look for GCC, that one is free but I personaly don't like it. Salvador Tenorio __________________________________________________
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RE: free C compiler for HCS12 ? - John Dammeyer - Apr 14 17:09:00 2005
If you plan on using NoICE (which I do recommend), buy the compiler
revision that supports symbolic debugging of structures and arrays of
structures. It's more money but again, time is money. I didn't and wished
I had but the budget didn't allow an upgrade. If I were to do it over
again, I would do it that way.
John Dammeyer Wireless CAN with the CANRF module now available.
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Ph. 1 250 544 4950 > -----Original Message-----
> From: Salvador Tenorio [mailto:salvador_tenorio@salv...]
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 1:43 PM
> To: 68HC12@68HC...
> Subject: Re: [68HC12] free C compiler for HCS12 ? > Get ICC12 (from image craft) evaluation version and you will
> see how good it is and will be glad to pay for the standard
> version, which is just a couple hundred $.
>
> If you are still cheap, go look for GCC, that one is free but
> I personaly don't like it. > Salvador Tenorio > __________________________________________________
> ">http://mail.yahoo.com
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
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revision that supports symbolic debugging of structures and arrays of
structures. It's more money but again, time is money. I didn't and wished
I had but the budget didn't allow an upgrade. If I were to do it over
again, I would do it that way.
John Dammeyer Wireless CAN with the CANRF module now available.
http://www.autoartisans.com/products
Automation Artisans Inc.
Ph. 1 250 544 4950 > -----Original Message-----
> From: Salvador Tenorio [mailto:salvador_tenorio@salv...]
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 1:43 PM
> To: 68HC12@68HC...
> Subject: Re: [68HC12] free C compiler for HCS12 ? > Get ICC12 (from image craft) evaluation version and you will
> see how good it is and will be glad to pay for the standard
> version, which is just a couple hundred $.
>
> If you are still cheap, go look for GCC, that one is free but
> I personaly don't like it. > Salvador Tenorio > __________________________________________________
> ">http://mail.yahoo.com
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
>
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Re: free C compiler for HCS12 ? - Author Unknown - Apr 14 19:44:00 2005
How much code do you expect to compile, up to 32K is free with codewarrior.
Jim
www.freegeeks.net
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From: Anh Quan Nguyen
To: 68HC12@68HC...
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:12 PM
Subject: [68HC12] free C compiler for HCS12 ?
Hi everyone,
is there anyone know a free C compiler for HCS12 ?
I am using S12Compact Kit.
It take so long to program in Assembly language.
Thankx in advance,
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----- Original Message -----
From: Anh Quan Nguyen
To: 68HC12@68HC...
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:12 PM
Subject: [68HC12] free C compiler for HCS12 ?
Hi everyone,
is there anyone know a free C compiler for HCS12 ?
I am using S12Compact Kit.
It take so long to program in Assembly language.
Thankx in advance,
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Re: free C compiler for HCS12 ? - Dean Manion - Apr 14 20:59:00 2005
There is a port of the GNU C++ compiler. I've been using it and it works great. There
is also a IDE for it call eGNU that makes life easier. Here's the link,
http://www.gnu-m68hc11.org/
Dean
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From: Anh Quan Nguyen
To: 68HC12@68HC...
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 3:12 PM
Subject: [68HC12] free C compiler for HCS12 ?
Hi everyone,
is there anyone know a free C compiler for HCS12 ?
I am using S12Compact Kit.
It take so long to program in Assembly language.
Thankx in advance,
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Dean
----- Original Message -----
From: Anh Quan Nguyen
To: 68HC12@68HC...
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 3:12 PM
Subject: [68HC12] free C compiler for HCS12 ?
Hi everyone,
is there anyone know a free C compiler for HCS12 ?
I am using S12Compact Kit.
It take so long to program in Assembly language.
Thankx in advance,
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Re: free C compiler for HCS12 ? - Salvador Tenorio - Apr 14 22:22:00 2005
I would also stay away from codewarrior, IMHO imagecraft compilers are way better and easier to use plus support for NoICE is there. Also, support is quick, good and given by the compiler creator himself.
If you needed to compile more than 32k then you would have to pay big bucks for the full version of codewarrior, again, this is just my oppinion. Don't want to start a religious wars.
BTW, I work for Motorola and am not recommending codewarrior, wonder why...mhhh. ---------------------------------
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RE: free C compiler for HCS12 ? - Jonathan Masters - Apr 14 22:56:00 2005
I have been an Imagecraft user in the past, and am presently using CW
32K.
Having been hooked by the free eval and spent time learning enough about
CW to get me into trouble there I am now. At this risk of sparking a
fire, has anyone done any real evaluation of code quality between the
two systems? I ran into one code generation bug, and of course am very
worried about any complex code problems I have now.
Does the Imagecraft system support P&E tools? - I could not confirm this
from the Imagecraft site.
Jonathan Masters -----Original Message-----
From: 68HC12@68HC... [mailto:68HC12@68HC...] On Behalf
Of Salvador Tenorio
Sent: Friday, 15 April 2005 12:22 PM
To: 68HC12@68HC...
Subject: Re: [68HC12] free C compiler for HCS12 ?
I would also stay away from codewarrior, IMHO imagecraft compilers are
way better and easier to use plus support for NoICE is there. Also,
support is quick, good and given by the compiler creator himself.
If you needed to compile more than 32k then you would have to pay big
bucks for the full version of codewarrior, again, this is just my
oppinion. Don't want to start a religious wars.
BTW, I work for Motorola and am not recommending codewarrior, wonder
why...mhhh. ---------------------------------
_____
> Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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32K.
Having been hooked by the free eval and spent time learning enough about
CW to get me into trouble there I am now. At this risk of sparking a
fire, has anyone done any real evaluation of code quality between the
two systems? I ran into one code generation bug, and of course am very
worried about any complex code problems I have now.
Does the Imagecraft system support P&E tools? - I could not confirm this
from the Imagecraft site.
Jonathan Masters -----Original Message-----
From: 68HC12@68HC... [mailto:68HC12@68HC...] On Behalf
Of Salvador Tenorio
Sent: Friday, 15 April 2005 12:22 PM
To: 68HC12@68HC...
Subject: Re: [68HC12] free C compiler for HCS12 ?
I would also stay away from codewarrior, IMHO imagecraft compilers are
way better and easier to use plus support for NoICE is there. Also,
support is quick, good and given by the compiler creator himself.
If you needed to compile more than 32k then you would have to pay big
bucks for the full version of codewarrior, again, this is just my
oppinion. Don't want to start a religious wars.
BTW, I work for Motorola and am not recommending codewarrior, wonder
why...mhhh. ---------------------------------
_____
> Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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RE: free C compiler for HCS12 ? - Salvador Tenorio - Apr 14 23:03:00 2005
Send an email directly to Richard (I think it is richard@rich... or look for support emails on their site) and he will be very prompt to answer any questions you may have.
Salvador Tenorio
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RE: free C compiler for HCS12 ? - Richard - Apr 15 1:22:00 2005
At 07:56 PM 4/14/2005, you wrote:
>I have been an Imagecraft user in the past, and am presently using CW
>32K.
>
>Having been hooked by the free eval and spent time learning enough about
>CW to get me into trouble there I am now. At this risk of sparking a
>fire, has anyone done any real evaluation of code quality between the
>two systems? I ran into one code generation bug, and of course am very
>worried about any complex code problems I have now. The ICC12 code generator is a wee bit old and is undergoing an upgrade. We
do use the HC12/S12 instructions, but it can be improved (which we are
doing). Nevertheless, many commercial applications have been written using
ICC12 so it's no slouch.
>Does the Imagecraft system support P&E tools? - I could not confirm this
>from the Imagecraft site.
Yes and No. Yes that we generate the older .map file. Despite what P&E
sales may tell you, their debuggers support this format. We are working
with one of their guys to support our DBG format. More updates as it
becomes available. >
>Jonathan Masters >-----Original Message-----
>From: 68HC12@68HC... [mailto:68HC12@68HC...] On Behalf
>Of Salvador Tenorio
>Sent: Friday, 15 April 2005 12:22 PM
>To: 68HC12@68HC...
>Subject: Re: [68HC12] free C compiler for HCS12 ? >
>I would also stay away from codewarrior, IMHO imagecraft compilers are
>way better and easier to use plus support for NoICE is there. Also,
>support is quick, good and given by the compiler creator himself.
>
>If you needed to compile more than 32k then you would have to pay big
>bucks for the full version of codewarrior, again, this is just my
>oppinion. Don't want to start a religious wars.
>
>BTW, I work for Motorola and am not recommending codewarrior, wonder
>why...mhhh. >--------------------------------- >
>
> _____
>
>> Service. >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links // richard (This email is for mailing lists. To reach me directly, please
use richard at imagecraft.com)
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>32K.
>
>Having been hooked by the free eval and spent time learning enough about
>CW to get me into trouble there I am now. At this risk of sparking a
>fire, has anyone done any real evaluation of code quality between the
>two systems? I ran into one code generation bug, and of course am very
>worried about any complex code problems I have now. The ICC12 code generator is a wee bit old and is undergoing an upgrade. We
do use the HC12/S12 instructions, but it can be improved (which we are
doing). Nevertheless, many commercial applications have been written using
ICC12 so it's no slouch.
>Does the Imagecraft system support P&E tools? - I could not confirm this
>from the Imagecraft site.
Yes and No. Yes that we generate the older .map file. Despite what P&E
sales may tell you, their debuggers support this format. We are working
with one of their guys to support our DBG format. More updates as it
becomes available. >
>Jonathan Masters >-----Original Message-----
>From: 68HC12@68HC... [mailto:68HC12@68HC...] On Behalf
>Of Salvador Tenorio
>Sent: Friday, 15 April 2005 12:22 PM
>To: 68HC12@68HC...
>Subject: Re: [68HC12] free C compiler for HCS12 ? >
>I would also stay away from codewarrior, IMHO imagecraft compilers are
>way better and easier to use plus support for NoICE is there. Also,
>support is quick, good and given by the compiler creator himself.
>
>If you needed to compile more than 32k then you would have to pay big
>bucks for the full version of codewarrior, again, this is just my
>oppinion. Don't want to start a religious wars.
>
>BTW, I work for Motorola and am not recommending codewarrior, wonder
>why...mhhh. >--------------------------------- >
>
> _____
>
>> Service. >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links // richard (This email is for mailing lists. To reach me directly, please
use richard at imagecraft.com)
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Re: free C compiler for HCS12 ? - theobee00 - Apr 15 7:38:00 2005
--- In 68HC12@68HC..., Salvador Tenorio <salvador_tenorio@y...> wrote:
> BTW, I work for Motorola and am not recommending codewarrior, wonder why...mhhh.
Did they offer redundency payment?
Cheers,
Theo
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Re: free C compiler for HCS12 ? - Jeff McKnight - Apr 15 8:47:00 2005
Salvador Tenorio wrote:
>I would also stay away from codewarrior, IMHO imagecraft compilers are way better and
easier to use plus support for NoICE is there. Also, support is quick, good and given by
the compiler creator himself.
Ditto. Stay away from CW. Their support is HORRIBLE. ICC12 and NoICE is
a good easy to use combination.
--
Jeff McKnight
Development Engineer
Athens Technical Specialists, Inc.
8157 U.S. Route 50
Athens, Ohio
45701-9303
740.592.2874
FAX.594.2875
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a good easy to use combination.
--
Jeff McKnight
Development Engineer
Athens Technical Specialists, Inc.
8157 U.S. Route 50
Athens, Ohio
45701-9303
740.592.2874
FAX.594.2875
www.atsi-tester.com
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Re: free C compiler for HCS12 ? - MW Ron - Apr 15 12:03:00 2005
Jeff McKnight wrote:
> Salvador Tenorio wrote:
>
>>
>> I would also stay away from codewarrior, IMHO imagecraft compilers are way
>> better and easier to use plus support for NoICE is there. Also, support is
>> quick, good and given by the compiler creator himself.
>>
>>
> Ditto. Stay away from CW. Their support is HORRIBLE. ICC12 and NoICE is
> a good easy to use combination.
Please let me know of any problems you have with support. We feel we
offer quite a bit of support, Online forum's for everyone, direct 30
day full support for special edition, monitoring of 3rd party channels
such as this group here and more. If we are not giving you the support
you feel is necessary, then we will improve. I'd greatly appreciate a
private or public message to find out where we can improve.
Ron
--
Metrowerks Community Forum is a free online resource for developers
to discuss CodeWarrior topics with other users and Metrowerks' staff
-- http://www.metrowerks.com/community --
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> Salvador Tenorio wrote:
>
>>
>> I would also stay away from codewarrior, IMHO imagecraft compilers are way
>> better and easier to use plus support for NoICE is there. Also, support is
>> quick, good and given by the compiler creator himself.
>>
>>
> Ditto. Stay away from CW. Their support is HORRIBLE. ICC12 and NoICE is
> a good easy to use combination.
Please let me know of any problems you have with support. We feel we
offer quite a bit of support, Online forum's for everyone, direct 30
day full support for special edition, monitoring of 3rd party channels
such as this group here and more. If we are not giving you the support
you feel is necessary, then we will improve. I'd greatly appreciate a
private or public message to find out where we can improve.
Ron
--
Metrowerks Community Forum is a free online resource for developers
to discuss CodeWarrior topics with other users and Metrowerks' staff
-- http://www.metrowerks.com/community --
Ron Liechty - MWRon@MWRo... - http://www.metrowerks.com
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Re: free C compiler for HCS12 ? - Anh Quan Nguyen - Apr 16 5:44:00 2005
Thank you very much for your help :)
Now I can use Gcc compiler and eGNU.
It's really good freeware, but doesn't support Debug.
I can write assembly code inside C program.
How can I write a value to the register A or B ?
Something like this:
{
...
unsigned char x;
x=12;
asm("ldaa x");
...
}
It's not working.
Is there anyone know how to solve it?
Cheers,
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Re: Re: free C compiler for HCS12 ? - Dean Manion - Apr 16 9:48:00 2005
There is Yahoo group for GNU on the HCS12/HC11
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gnu-m68hc11/ That would probably be a better place to pose
your question.
Dean
----- Original Message -----
From: Anh Quan Nguyen
To: 68HC12@68HC...
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 4:44 AM
Subject: [68HC12] Re: free C compiler for HCS12 ?
Thank you very much for your help :)
Now I can use Gcc compiler and eGNU.
It's really good freeware, but doesn't support Debug.
I can write assembly code inside C program.
How can I write a value to the register A or B ?
Something like this:
{
...
unsigned char x;
x=12;
asm("ldaa x");
...
}
It's not working.
Is there anyone know how to solve it?
Cheers, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Dean
----- Original Message -----
From: Anh Quan Nguyen
To: 68HC12@68HC...
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 4:44 AM
Subject: [68HC12] Re: free C compiler for HCS12 ?
Thank you very much for your help :)
Now I can use Gcc compiler and eGNU.
It's really good freeware, but doesn't support Debug.
I can write assembly code inside C program.
How can I write a value to the register A or B ?
Something like this:
{
...
unsigned char x;
x=12;
asm("ldaa x");
...
}
It's not working.
Is there anyone know how to solve it?
Cheers, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yahoo! Groups Links
a.. To
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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