<jpdi@jpdi...> wrote:

[...]

> - NoIce for downloading program ever in RAM area or in Flash area,
> very nice to use (debug in C or assembly language, looking for
> variables, watch memory...)

Ack, NoICE is great!

> - P&E BDM-Multilink, connected on parallel port

parallel port is bad.

Check also http://elmicro.com/en/compod12.php for a very interesting 
bundle of a BDM interface and NoICE.

Oliver
-- 
Oliver Betz, Muenchen
	

Hi All

The NE64 Demo board is a great for learning on. If you want a kick 
start, get the following demo project. It will compile with the GNU 
compiler or can be built in an IAR project (with a few minutes extra 
work also with Codewarrior, which comes with the DEMO9S12NE64 as 
evaluation version).

http://www.mjbc.ch/software/Demo/j8jdwk-ku7/uTaskerPingDemo.zip 
In addition, and best of all, you can run the project with 
VisualStudio on a simulated NE64 (in real time). It will use the 
PC's COM port and Ethernet LAN interface and the simulated device 
talks to other PCs/devces on the network. You can set breakpoints in 
the code (for example, in interrupt routines) and watch an Ethernet 
frame pass through the NE64 interrupt routine, up the TCP/IP stack 
etc. You can learn about the NE64 by simply stepping through the 
code to see how it all works.

Load the compiled code to the DEMO9S12NE64 and it will run - 
blinking the LED, plus responding to PINGs and sending PING tests of 
its own - the demo's below do a lot more (dynamic http web server, 
FTP etc.) but take up only about 25k of NE64 code space plus 16k in 
page 0x3d for a file system to hold web pages which can be updated 
by FTP...

See live demos via web cam at http://212.254.22.36:8080 - log on and 
control device using Browser at http://212.254.22.36 (user "ADMIN" 
password "AL6000S") or write messages to a LCD at 
http://212.254.22.36:8081 (login "anon" "anon").

The uTasker for the NE64 (operating system, drivers, TCP/IP stack 
and real-time NE64 simulator) is free to educational establishments 
and for non-commercial use, including free email support. It 
includes a free serial debugger and also code to program to the 
DEMO9S12NE64 to turn it into an Ethernet based high speed BDM for 
use with your first own hardware!! Try it from your browser at 
http://212.254.22.36:8083 - halt a running board, step its code and 
look at its memory.

As you see, the NE64 is not only fun, it is really easy to leard and 
use. You can program your own Internet enabled application after 
only a few days study - see documents in the "documents" folder and 
project instructions in the "applications\ping" project folder.

Have fun!

Regards
Mark Butcher
www.mjbc.ch

--- In 68HC12@68HC..., "Oliver Betz" <list_ob@...> wrote:
>
> <jpdi@...> wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > - NoIce for downloading program ever in RAM area or in Flash 
area,
> > very nice to use (debug in C or assembly language, looking for
> > variables, watch memory...)
> 
> Ack, NoICE is great!
> 
> > - P&E BDM-Multilink, connected on parallel port
> 
> parallel port is bad.
> 
> Check also http://elmicro.com/en/compod12.php for a very 
interesting 
> bundle of a BDM interface and NoICE.
> 
> Oliver
> -- 
> Oliver Betz, Muenchen
>
	

--- In 68HC12@68HC..., "Oliver Betz" <list_ob@...> wrote:

> > - P&E BDM-Multilink, connected on parallel port
> 
> parallel port is bad.
> 
> Check also http://elmicro.com/en/compod12.php for a very interesting 
> bundle of a BDM interface and NoICE.

I'd like a USB BDM device that has an open API. Do you know of
anything like this?

Lots of laptops don't have serial or parallel ports :-(
	

> > Check also http://elmicro.com/en/compod12.php for a very interesting
> > bundle of a BDM interface and NoICE.
>I'd like a USB BDM device that has an open API. Do you know of
>anything like this?

Check out TBDML from http://www.freegeeks.net

Also, the ComPOD ( http://elmicro.com/en/compod12.php) works very well over 
a USB/RS-232 convertor.  The API is open in that Elektronikladen documents 
the serial protocol.  The ComPOD/PRO at 115,200 baud is about 20% faster 
than the TBDML, and the ComPOD/NG is 200% faster.

Speed comparison chart of various pods at 
http://www.noicedebugger.com/help/bdm12.htm#SPEED

Best regards, John Hartman
         NoICE Debugging Tools
         http://www.noicedebugger.com
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--- In 68HC12@68HC..., "John Hartman (NoICE)" <john@...> wrote:

> > > Check also http://elmicro.com/en/compod12.php for a very interesting
> > > bundle of a BDM interface and NoICE.
> >I'd like a USB BDM device that has an open API. Do you know of
> >anything like this?
> 
> Check out TBDML from http://www.freegeeks.net

I've already looked at that, and it looks great, but I can't find a
source of assembled boards. I was hoping they'd move forward on their
JB16 design, and find a company that can make them.

> Also, the ComPOD ( http://elmicro.com/en/compod12.php) works very
well over 
> a USB/RS-232 convertor.  The API is open in that Elektronikladen
documents 
> the serial protocol.

I didn't know this had an open API. That's worth looking at.

Why don't they publish their prices? I've been to their site before,
but I just leave when I don't see any prices. This usually means the
cost is too high for me :-(

Thanks!
Eric
	

Eric Engler wrote:

[ComPOD12]

> I didn't know this had an open API. That's worth looking at.

Ask them.

> Why don't they publish their prices? I've been to their site before,

They do - look at the German page.

I don't know where you are (quoting Jimmy Carter you might be in the 
USA), maybe you want to buy from a US dealer, so you should ask 
there.

> but I just leave when I don't see any prices. This usually means the
> cost is too high for me :-(

Unlikely.

Oliver
-- 
Oliver Betz, Muenchen
	

At 12:35 AM 3/20/2006, Oliver Betz wrote:

>Eric Engler wrote:
>
>[ComPOD12]
>
> > I didn't know this had an open API. That's worth looking at.
>
>Ask them.

Shouldn't be a problem, NoICE author ported his debugger to talk to the 
ComPODs without much problem.
	> > Why don't they publish their prices? I've been to their site before,
>
>They do - look at the German page.
>
>I don't know where you are (quoting Jimmy Carter you might be in the
>USA), maybe you want to buy from a US dealer, so you should ask
>there.

Check our website for pricing details. We are their US distributor.

> > but I just leave when I don't see any prices. This usually means the
> > cost is too high for me :-(

The lowest cost model is only around ~$125, I think, but check our site. At 
least the Euro/$ rate has stabilized in the last year or so. For a while, 
it was a PITA because the exchange rate fluctuation.
	// richard (This email is for mailing lists. To reach me directly, please 
use richard at imagecraft.com)