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STK 500 - channel_robo - Apr 23 4:53:00 2005
Hi!
Will someone recommend STK 500 for a beginner? I read somewhere on
the net that Atmel has stopped this product. Will it be a good buy?
And how about ISP? The price difference make me think of ISP. Any
comment?
Regards,
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Re: [AVR club] STK 500 - Eric - Apr 23 5:51:00 2005
I believe there is a "copy" STK 500 made by someone else.
From Eric
----- Original Message -----
From: "channel_robo" <no_reply@no_r...>
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Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 8:53 PM
Subject: [AVR club] STK 500
Hi!
Will someone recommend STK 500 for a beginner? I read somewhere on
the net that Atmel has stopped this product. Will it be a good buy?
And how about ISP? The price difference make me think of ISP. Any
comment?
Regards,
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----- Original Message -----
From: "channel_robo" <no_reply@no_r...>
To: <avrclub@avrc...>
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 8:53 PM
Subject: [AVR club] STK 500
Hi!
Will someone recommend STK 500 for a beginner? I read somewhere on
the net that Atmel has stopped this product. Will it be a good buy?
And how about ISP? The price difference make me think of ISP. Any
comment?
Regards,
Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: [AVR club] STK 500 - Eric - Apr 23 5:53:00 2005
Oh forgot what is "ISP" ?
From Eric
----- Original Message -----
From: "channel_robo" <no_reply@no_r...>
To: <avrclub@avrc...>
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 8:53 PM
Subject: [AVR club] STK 500
Hi!
Will someone recommend STK 500 for a beginner? I read somewhere on
the net that Atmel has stopped this product. Will it be a good buy?
And how about ISP? The price difference make me think of ISP. Any
comment?
Regards,
Yahoo! Groups Links
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----- Original Message -----
From: "channel_robo" <no_reply@no_r...>
To: <avrclub@avrc...>
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 8:53 PM
Subject: [AVR club] STK 500
Hi!
Will someone recommend STK 500 for a beginner? I read somewhere on
the net that Atmel has stopped this product. Will it be a good buy?
And how about ISP? The price difference make me think of ISP. Any
comment?
Regards,
Yahoo! Groups Links
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AW: [AVR club] STK 500 - Klaus Ruebsam - Apr 23 7:38:00 2005
ISP: In System Programming
STK500: I first started with a STK200 that had to be programmed with the
ISP-Adapter for parallel-port. I switched over to STK500 and like the
fact that I do not have to jungle around with the cables + the STK500 is
very flexible in terms of oscillator and portusage. If you are heading
just for one single application I would more recommend to start with a
first application design that makes usage of the ISP-possibilities the
AVRs come with and keep programming your board using ISP over either
serial (which is now also available or the old fashioned parallelway
(using a 74LS244 (or was it 245) driver).
Regards,
Klaus
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STK500: I first started with a STK200 that had to be programmed with the
ISP-Adapter for parallel-port. I switched over to STK500 and like the
fact that I do not have to jungle around with the cables + the STK500 is
very flexible in terms of oscillator and portusage. If you are heading
just for one single application I would more recommend to start with a
first application design that makes usage of the ISP-possibilities the
AVRs come with and keep programming your board using ISP over either
serial (which is now also available or the old fashioned parallelway
(using a 74LS244 (or was it 245) driver).
Regards,
Klaus
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Re: STK 500 - brewski922 - Apr 23 10:29:00 2005
I have not heard anything about the STK500 production being stopped.
Then again I sure don't know everything.
Keeping that last sentence in mind...
About 4 years go I started with the STK500. Yes, you can get cheaper
starter boards and prototype boards but...
When you factor in with some of those boards only one type of
microcontroller can be used. Also, to make that micro and board
usefull you may have to add input devices, switches, and output
indicators, LEDs. Plus the STK500 gives you off-board access to all
the pins of the micro you are experimenting with.
It will probably be sometime before Atmel quits manufacturing DIPs.
Even when they do for sometime the old out of date guys will still be
available.
For Atmel's 2/22/05 answer to
"Are there any starter kits available for AVR?"
http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/faq_card.asp?faq_id=792
Mike
--- In avrclub@avrc..., channel_robo <no_reply@y...> wrote:
>
> Hi!
> Will someone recommend STK 500 for a beginner? I read somewhere
on
> the net that Atmel has stopped this product. Will it be a good buy?
> And how about ISP? The price difference make me think of ISP. Any
> comment?
>
> Regards,
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Re: [AVR club] Re: STK 500 - Kathy Quinlan - Apr 23 11:32:00 2005
brewski922 wrote:
>
> I have not heard anything about the STK500 production being stopped.
> Then again I sure don't know everything.
>
> Keeping that last sentence in mind...
> About 4 years go I started with the STK500. Yes, you can get cheaper
> starter boards and prototype boards but...
> When you factor in with some of those boards only one type of
> microcontroller can be used. Also, to make that micro and board
> usefull you may have to add input devices, switches, and output
> indicators, LEDs. Plus the STK500 gives you off-board access to all
> the pins of the micro you are experimenting with.
>
> It will probably be sometime before Atmel quits manufacturing DIPs.
> Even when they do for sometime the old out of date guys will still be
> available.
>
> For Atmel's 2/22/05 answer to
> "Are there any starter kits available for AVR?"
> http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/faq_card.asp?faq_id=792 Forget all that mike, the fact that the STK501/2 plug into the the 500
and the fact they are USELESS without a 500, means they will sell for a
while longer (at least until they make a replacement)
Regards,
Kat.
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>
> I have not heard anything about the STK500 production being stopped.
> Then again I sure don't know everything.
>
> Keeping that last sentence in mind...
> About 4 years go I started with the STK500. Yes, you can get cheaper
> starter boards and prototype boards but...
> When you factor in with some of those boards only one type of
> microcontroller can be used. Also, to make that micro and board
> usefull you may have to add input devices, switches, and output
> indicators, LEDs. Plus the STK500 gives you off-board access to all
> the pins of the micro you are experimenting with.
>
> It will probably be sometime before Atmel quits manufacturing DIPs.
> Even when they do for sometime the old out of date guys will still be
> available.
>
> For Atmel's 2/22/05 answer to
> "Are there any starter kits available for AVR?"
> http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/faq_card.asp?faq_id=792 Forget all that mike, the fact that the STK501/2 plug into the the 500
and the fact they are USELESS without a 500, means they will sell for a
while longer (at least until they make a replacement)
Regards,
Kat.
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Re: [AVR club] STK 500 - Zack Widup - Apr 23 11:41:00 2005
On Sat, 23 Apr 2005, channel_robo wrote:
>
> Hi!
> Will someone recommend STK 500 for a beginner? I read somewhere on
> the net that Atmel has stopped this product. Will it be a good buy?
> And how about ISP? The price difference make me think of ISP. Any
> comment?
>
> Regards, Although I'm not a beginner with microcontrollers, when I started using
AVR's I got an STK-500. It took a little bit of learning but I'm very
pleased with it. It's a great deal. Very versatile.
I think I've mentioned this before, but the only drawback to it that I see
is it doesn't use ZIF sockets. I might just try to replace the sockets I
use most on mine with ZIF sockets, or make some sort of adapter.
Zack
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> Hi!
> Will someone recommend STK 500 for a beginner? I read somewhere on
> the net that Atmel has stopped this product. Will it be a good buy?
> And how about ISP? The price difference make me think of ISP. Any
> comment?
>
> Regards, Although I'm not a beginner with microcontrollers, when I started using
AVR's I got an STK-500. It took a little bit of learning but I'm very
pleased with it. It's a great deal. Very versatile.
I think I've mentioned this before, but the only drawback to it that I see
is it doesn't use ZIF sockets. I might just try to replace the sockets I
use most on mine with ZIF sockets, or make some sort of adapter.
Zack
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Re: AW: [AVR club] STK 500 - Zack Widup - Apr 23 11:47:00 2005
On Sat, 23 Apr 2005, Klaus Ruebsam wrote:
> STK500: I first started with a STK200 that had to be programmed with the
> ISP-Adapter for parallel-port. I switched over to STK500 and like the
> fact that I do not have to jungle around with the cables + the STK500 is
> very flexible in terms of oscillator and portusage. If you are heading
> just for one single application I would more recommend to start with a
> first application design that makes usage of the ISP-possibilities the
> AVRs come with and keep programming your board using ISP over either
> serial (which is now also available or the old fashioned parallelway
> (using a 74LS244 (or was it 245) driver).
>
> Regards,
>
> Klaus
Anyone who waants to "roll their own" JTAG adapter can find some board
patterns at this site:
http://www.ve1alq.com/downloads/pll/jtag.htm
I've been using this to program Altera CPLD's but it should work with any
JTAG.
Zack
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> ISP-Adapter for parallel-port. I switched over to STK500 and like the
> fact that I do not have to jungle around with the cables + the STK500 is
> very flexible in terms of oscillator and portusage. If you are heading
> just for one single application I would more recommend to start with a
> first application design that makes usage of the ISP-possibilities the
> AVRs come with and keep programming your board using ISP over either
> serial (which is now also available or the old fashioned parallelway
> (using a 74LS244 (or was it 245) driver).
>
> Regards,
>
> Klaus
Anyone who waants to "roll their own" JTAG adapter can find some board
patterns at this site:
http://www.ve1alq.com/downloads/pll/jtag.htm
I've been using this to program Altera CPLD's but it should work with any
JTAG.
Zack
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Re: [AVR club] STK 500 - brewski922 - Apr 23 13:54:00 2005
I haven't tried this but I believe you should be able to plug ZIF
sockets into the associated DIP socket. One or two cautions: Other
components on the STK500 may interfer or one ZIF may interfer with
another ZIF.
Mike --- In avrclub@avrc..., Zack Widup <w9sz@p...> wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Apr 2005, channel_robo wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hi!
> > Will someone recommend STK 500 for a beginner? I read
somewhere on
> > the net that Atmel has stopped this product. Will it be a good
buy?
> > And how about ISP? The price difference make me think of ISP. Any
> > comment?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
>
> Although I'm not a beginner with microcontrollers, when I started
using
> AVR's I got an STK-500. It took a little bit of learning but I'm
very
> pleased with it. It's a great deal. Very versatile.
>
> I think I've mentioned this before, but the only drawback to it
that I see
> is it doesn't use ZIF sockets. I might just try to replace the
sockets I
> use most on mine with ZIF sockets, or make some sort of adapter.
>
> Zack
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Re: [AVR club] STK 500 - Dave VanHorn - Apr 23 14:11:00 2005
At 12:54 PM 4/23/2005, brewski922 wrote:
>I haven't tried this but I believe you should be able to plug ZIF
>sockets into the associated DIP socket. One or two cautions: Other
>components on the STK500 may interfer or one ZIF may interfer with
>another ZIF.
>Mike
Depends on the ZIF. Some have pins that are large, or turned 90 degrees.
I just use an amp double-wipe plugged into the board's socket.
This "sacrificial socket" wears out fast, but the one on the board
gets only a few cycles on it.
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>sockets into the associated DIP socket. One or two cautions: Other
>components on the STK500 may interfer or one ZIF may interfer with
>another ZIF.
>Mike
Depends on the ZIF. Some have pins that are large, or turned 90 degrees.
I just use an amp double-wipe plugged into the board's socket.
This "sacrificial socket" wears out fast, but the one on the board
gets only a few cycles on it.
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