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Users and NetMedia: Would there be interest in the BX-24 chip (AT90S8535) sold individually? That would be in 40-pin PDIP or 44-pin PLCC. The advantage is easy access to all the I/O pins and the ability to mount it directly on the particular project circuit board. Another option of interest is either serial download or parallel port download. This would free up a few pins depending on the user application. Cheers... Rich

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From my understanding of the BX chips, when you download you are really activating an interrupt that causes the BX software in the chip's Flash to load the new program in EEPROM. The kind of serial/parallel programming provided for in the AVR chips is to program the Flash. If you program the Flash in the BX-24 or BX-1, you no longer have the BasicX operating system in the chip. That said, I'd like to see a whole new BX product based on the 8535 40-pin DIP, in the same way that the BX-1 is based on the 8515. -- Gordon At 09:57 AM 6/17/2000 -0700, you wrote: >Users and NetMedia: > >Would there be interest in the BX-24 chip (AT90S8535) sold >individually? That would be in 40-pin PDIP or 44-pin PLCC. > >The advantage is easy access to all the I/O pins and the ability to >mount it directly on the particular project circuit board. > >Another option of interest is either serial download or parallel port >download. This would free up a few pins depending on the user >application.

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When programming in parallel mode the serial EEPROM is programmed by the PC parallel port by bit-banging the SPI interface with the BX chip forced to reset. In the parallel mode the reset line is hooked to the PC parallel port so that in all cases the chip can be be reset. There is no need for a rescue function. This also means the interrupt pin used in the BX-24 is available for other uses. Cheers... Rich Gordon McComb wrote: > >From my understanding of the BX chips, when you download you are really > activating an interrupt that causes the BX software in the chip's Flash to > load the new program in EEPROM. The kind of serial/parallel programming > provided for in the AVR chips is to program the Flash. If you program the > Flash in the BX-24 or BX-1, you no longer have the BasicX operating system > in the chip. > > That said, I'd like to see a whole new BX product based on the 8535 40-pin > DIP, in the same way that the BX-1 is based on the 8515. > > -- Gordon > > At 09:57 AM 6/17/2000 -0700, you wrote: > >Users and NetMedia: > > > >Would there be interest in the BX-24 chip (AT90S8535) sold > >individually? That would be in 40-pin PDIP or 44-pin PLCC. > > > >The advantage is easy access to all the I/O pins and the ability to > >mount it directly on the particular project circuit board. > > > >Another option of interest is either serial download or parallel port > >download. This would free up a few pins depending on the user > >application. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Wrox Wireless Developer Conference, Amsterdam, July 10-12. Choose from > 40+ technical sessions covering application of WAP, XML, ASP, Java and > C++ to mobile computing. Get your ticket to the future today! > http://click.egroups.com/1/5689/7/_/565855/_/961264512/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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I do not think this is the case for the BX-01. if you look at the drawing for the developer board you will see that all of the conection for the Parallel port run to the SPI eeprom ecept the reset line. you can "load" the program into the eeprom without the BX-01 on the board. after the eeprom is loaded the "reset" line is pulled low to reboot the chip and run the new program. from reading the notes on the basic-x site they say that the interpeter in in the BX chip. --- Gordon McComb <> wrote: > From my understanding of the BX chips, when you > download you are really > activating an interrupt that causes the BX software > in the chip's Flash to > load the new program in EEPROM. The kind of > serial/parallel programming > provided for in the AVR chips is to program the > Flash. If you program the > Flash in the BX-24 or BX-1, you no longer have the > BasicX operating system > in the chip. > > That said, I'd like to see a whole new BX product > based on the 8535 40-pin > DIP, in the same way that the BX-1 is based on the > 8515. > > -- Gordon > > At 09:57 AM 6/17/2000 -0700, you wrote: > >Users and NetMedia: > > > >Would there be interest in the BX-24 chip > (AT90S8535) sold > >individually? That would be in 40-pin PDIP or > 44-pin PLCC. > > > >The advantage is easy access to all the I/O pins > and the ability to > >mount it directly on the particular project circuit > board. > > > >Another option of interest is either serial > download or parallel port > >download. This would free up a few pins depending > on the user > >application. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Wrox Wireless Developer Conference, Amsterdam, July > 10-12. Choose from > 40+ technical sessions covering application of WAP, > XML, ASP, Java and > C++ to mobile computing. Get your ticket to the > future today! > http://click.egroups.com/1/5689/7/_/565855/_/961264512/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ __________________________________________________

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We announced the BX35 product some time ago. This is the Atmel 8535 chip that is used in the BX24, in DIP form. To release this product, we would need to build a developer's kit with a platform for programming since the pinout is different from the BX01 and the BX24. You would still need your own crystal, caps and a SPI EEprom for code storage. We have many products in the pipeline and a BX35 developer's kit is not high priority right now. We could provide a BX35 without a developer's kit for those of you that are willing to make your own cables for downloading. The BX35 would be serial downloadable requiring an inverter (or Max232) and resistors so as to not destroy the inputs of the chip. We would need a large enough interest to warrant supporting the separate processor. Ok you guys, How many does the BasicX community want? Jack -----Original Message----- From: Jan Johnson <> To: BasicX List Server <>; Jack Schoof <> Date: Saturday, June 17, 2000 9:55 AM Subject: [BasicX] BX-24 options >Users and NetMedia: > >Would there be interest in the BX-24 chip (AT90S8535) sold >individually? That would be in 40-pin PDIP or 44-pin PLCC. > >The advantage is easy access to all the I/O pins and the ability to >mount it directly on the particular project circuit board. > >Another option of interest is either serial download or parallel port >download. This would free up a few pins depending on the user >application. > >Cheers... >Rich > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Wrox Wireless Developer Conference, Amsterdam, July 10-12. Choose from >40+ technical sessions covering application of WAP, XML, ASP, Java and >C++ to mobile computing. Get your ticket to the future today! >http://click.egroups.com/1/5689/7/_/565855/_/961260869/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Count me in, Ray.... --- Jack Schoof <> wrote: > We announced the BX35 product some time ago. This > is the Atmel 8535 chip > that is used in the BX24, in DIP form. > > To release this product, we would need to build a > developer's kit with a > platform for programming since the pinout is > different from the BX01 and the > BX24. You would still need your own crystal, caps > and a SPI EEprom for code > storage. > > We have many products in the pipeline and a BX35 > developer's kit is not high > priority right now. We could provide a BX35 without > a developer's kit for > those of you that are willing to make your own > cables for downloading. The > BX35 would be serial downloadable requiring an > inverter (or Max232) and > resistors so as to not destroy the inputs of the > chip. > > We would need a large enough interest to warrant > supporting the separate > processor. > > Ok you guys, How many does the BasicX community > want? > > Jack > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jan Johnson <> > To: BasicX List Server <>; Jack > Schoof > <> > Date: Saturday, June 17, 2000 9:55 AM > Subject: [BasicX] BX-24 options > >Users and NetMedia: > > > >Would there be interest in the BX-24 chip > (AT90S8535) sold > >individually? That would be in 40-pin PDIP or > 44-pin PLCC. > > > >The advantage is easy access to all the I/O pins > and the ability to > >mount it directly on the particular project circuit > board. > > > >Another option of interest is either serial > download or parallel port > >download. This would free up a few pins depending > on the user > >application. > > > >Cheers... > >Rich > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Wrox Wireless Developer Conference, Amsterdam, July > 10-12. Choose from > >40+ technical sessions covering application of WAP, > XML, ASP, Java and > >C++ to mobile computing. Get your ticket to the > future today! > >http://click.egroups.com/1/5689/7/_/565855/_/961260869/ > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Click here for a chance to win airfare to Vegas for > you and 20 friends, > $15,000 and a suite at Bellagio for New Year's from > Expedia.com. Or > win 2 roundtrip tickets anywhere in the U.S. given > away daily. > http://click.egroups.com/1/5296/7/_/565855/_/961565400/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ __________________________________________________

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Jack, Could you elaborate on what the selling features of the BX35 would be over the BX24 (more i/o, speed, etc.)? Please understand that I am a newbie with all this. From my own experience... I bought the BX24 development kit, but I quickly moved from that to a breadboard because I didn't want to mess up the development board. Plus working on a breadboard is just easier. Because the BX24 is self-contained, it made the step of going to the breadboard easy for me. If you include the schematics (which you have done before) and maybe a simple set of detailed instructions (downloadable) for hooking up (caps, eeprom, etc.), I would think that people would be receptive to the BX35. It might also give you the room you need to develop the other products on your plate. - Tom -----Original Message----- From: Jack Schoof [mailto:] Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 12:30 AM To: Subject: Re: [BasicX] BX-24 options We announced the BX35 product some time ago. This is the Atmel 8535 chip that is used in the BX24, in DIP form. To release this product, we would need to build a developer's kit with a platform for programming since the pinout is different from the BX01 and the BX24. You would still need your own crystal, caps and a SPI EEprom for code storage. We have many products in the pipeline and a BX35 developer's kit is not high priority right now. We could provide a BX35 without a developer's kit for those of you that are willing to make your own cables for downloading. The BX35 would be serial downloadable requiring an inverter (or Max232) and resistors so as to not destroy the inputs of the chip. We would need a large enough interest to warrant supporting the separate processor. Ok you guys, How many does the BasicX community want? Jack -----Original Message----- From: Jan Johnson <> To: BasicX List Server <>; Jack Schoof <> Date: Saturday, June 17, 2000 9:55 AM Subject: [BasicX] BX-24 options >Users and NetMedia: > >Would there be interest in the BX-24 chip (AT90S8535) sold >individually? That would be in 40-pin PDIP or 44-pin PLCC. > >The advantage is easy access to all the I/O pins and the ability to >mount it directly on the particular project circuit board. > >Another option of interest is either serial download or parallel port >download. This would free up a few pins depending on the user >application. > >Cheers... >Rich > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Wrox Wireless Developer Conference, Amsterdam, July 10-12. Choose from >40+ technical sessions covering application of WAP, XML, ASP, Java and >C++ to mobile computing. Get your ticket to the future today! >http://click.egroups.com/1/5689/7/_/565855/_/961260869/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Click here for a chance to win airfare to Vegas for you and 20 friends, $15,000 and a suite at Bellagio for New Year's from Expedia.com. Or win 2 roundtrip tickets anywhere in the U.S. given away daily. http://click.egroups.com/1/5296/7/_/565855/_/961565400/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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On 21 Jun 2000, at 9:39, Stuart Leslie <> wrote: > Jack Schoof wrote: > > We announced the BX35 product some time ago. > Of course, now I guess we are getting > away from what I liked about the bx-24 to begin with which was the simplicity > of hooking it up,connecting things to it, and having all the features > available without adding components (RS-232, ADC, SPI, EEPROM etc.) As a BX01 only user, I haven't really paid much attention to the BX24. However, I am used to "adding all the other components" and would also be interested in finding out whether the BX35 has any useful features that the BX01 doesn't have, and also of importance, what it doesn't have that the BX01 does have... Dave

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The Basic Operating system and interpreter takes the entire space within the 8515 or 8535 chip. It is not able to be run in a 2200 or 2300 series part Atmel is having major problems with production since they are making fashes instead of processors. Lead times of 36 weeks are standard from them now, causing us nightmares. We would have the BX35 available in DIP only for now. Jack -----Original Message----- From: Stuart Leslie <> To: <> Date: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 6:38 AM Subject: Re: [BasicX] BX-24 options > > >Jack Schoof wrote: >> >> We announced the BX35 product some time ago. This is the Atmel 8535 chip >> that is used in the BX24, in DIP form. >> > >If I understand this correctly, you are taking the 8535 chip and >programming the flash with your basic interpreter? Nothing else "added" >though (crystal,eeprom etc.)? If so, it would be pretty easy to >"release" a version in the PLCC 8535 as well right? For that matter, if >you could come up with a way for us to license the basic interpreter and >dump it into our own AVR chips we could really be on to something. There >are some applications where a cheaper chip would do fine (2343 etc.) >combined with the ease of use of your basic software. Of course, now I >guess we are getting away from what I liked about the bx-24 to begin >with which was the simplicity of hooking it up,connecting things to it, >and having all the features available without adding components (RS-232, >ADC, SPI, EEPROM etc.) > >Just thinking out loud I guess, > >Stuart Leslie > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Ãç´Ö¤È¤Ï¤¸¤á¤ë¡¢Ãç´Ö¤ò¸«¤Ä¤±¤ë¡¡£å¥°¥ë¡¼¥× >¡¡¡¡¡¡¡Ö¥°¥ë¡¼¥×¥á¡¼¥ë¤·¤Þ¤»¤ó¤«¡©¡× >¥µ¡¼¥¯¥ë¡¦Æ±Áë²ñ¡¦Æ±Î½¡¦¥Ó¥¸¥Í¥¹¡¦²È²¤Ç¤É¤¦¤¾¡ª >¡¡http://www.egroups.co.jp/info/features.html >http://click.egroups.com/1/3411/8/_/565855/_/961594726/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Just more I/O. You would have to put your own EEprom, crystal and crystal caps on the device to function. Also inverters for the serial port and resistors. See the BX24 schematic for what needs to be done. Jack -----Original Message----- From: Tom Lageson <> To: ' <> Date: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 6:20 AM Subject: RE: [BasicX] BX-24 options >Jack, >Could you elaborate on what the selling features of the BX35 would be over >the BX24 (more i/o, speed, etc.)? Please understand that I am a newbie with >all this. > >From my own experience... >I bought the BX24 development kit, but I quickly moved from that to a >breadboard because I didn't want to mess up the development board. Plus >working on a breadboard is just easier. Because the BX24 is self-contained, >it made the step of going to the breadboard easy for me. > >If you include the schematics (which you have done before) and maybe a >simple set of detailed instructions (downloadable) for hooking up (caps, >eeprom, etc.), I would think that people would be receptive to the BX35. It >might also give you the room you need to develop the other products on your >plate. > >- Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: Jack Schoof [mailto:] >Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 12:30 AM >To: >Subject: Re: [BasicX] BX-24 options >We announced the BX35 product some time ago. This is the Atmel 8535 chip >that is used in the BX24, in DIP form. > >To release this product, we would need to build a developer's kit with a >platform for programming since the pinout is different from the BX01 and the >BX24. You would still need your own crystal, caps and a SPI EEprom for code >storage. > >We have many products in the pipeline and a BX35 developer's kit is not high >priority right now. We could provide a BX35 without a developer's kit for >those of you that are willing to make your own cables for downloading. The >BX35 would be serial downloadable requiring an inverter (or Max232) and >resistors so as to not destroy the inputs of the chip. > >We would need a large enough interest to warrant supporting the separate >processor. > >Ok you guys, How many does the BasicX community want? > >Jack > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jan Johnson <> >To: BasicX List Server <>; Jack Schoof ><> >Date: Saturday, June 17, 2000 9:55 AM >Subject: [BasicX] BX-24 options >>Users and NetMedia: >> >>Would there be interest in the BX-24 chip (AT90S8535) sold >>individually? That would be in 40-pin PDIP or 44-pin PLCC. >> >>The advantage is easy access to all the I/O pins and the ability to >>mount it directly on the particular project circuit board. >> >>Another option of interest is either serial download or parallel port >>download. This would free up a few pins depending on the user >>application. >> >>Cheers... >>Rich >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>Wrox Wireless Developer Conference, Amsterdam, July 10-12. Choose from >>40+ technical sessions covering application of WAP, XML, ASP, Java and >>C++ to mobile computing. Get your ticket to the future today! >>http://click.egroups.com/1/5689/7/_/565855/_/961260869/ >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Click here for a chance to win airfare to Vegas for you and 20 friends, >$15,000 and a suite at Bellagio for New Year's from Expedia.com. Or >win 2 roundtrip tickets anywhere in the U.S. given away daily. >http://click.egroups.com/1/5296/7/_/565855/_/961565400/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Ãç´Ö¤È¤Ï¤¸¤á¤ë¡¢Ãç´Ö¤ò¸«¤Ä¤±¤ë¡¡£å¥°¥ë¡¼¥× >¡¡¡¡¡¡¡Ö¥°¥ë¡¼¥×¥á¡¼¥ë¤·¤Þ¤»¤ó¤«¡©¡× >¥µ¡¼¥¯¥ë¡¦Æ±Áë²ñ¡¦Æ±Î½¡¦¥Ó¥¸¥Í¥¹¡¦²È²¤Ç¤É¤¦¤¾¡ª >¡¡http://www.egroups.co.jp/info/features.html >http://click.egroups.com/1/3411/8/_/565855/_/961593621/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Flash sorry! Jack -----Original Message----- From: <> To: <> Date: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [BasicX] BX-24 options >> >Atmel is having major problems with production since they are making fashes >> >instead of processors. > >Pardon my ignorance, but what is a fash! > >Dave > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Ãç´Ö¤È¤Ï¤¸¤á¤ë¡¢Ãç´Ö¤ò¸«¤Ä¤±¤ë¡¡£å¥°¥ë¡¼¥× >¡¡¡¡¡¡¡Ö¥°¥ë¡¼¥×¥á¡¼¥ë¤·¤Þ¤»¤ó¤«¡©¡× >¥µ¡¼¥¯¥ë¡¦Æ±Áë²ñ¡¦Æ±Î½¡¦¥Ó¥¸¥Í¥¹¡¦²È²¤Ç¤É¤¦¤¾¡ª >¡¡http://www.egroups.co.jp/info/features.html >http://click.egroups.com/1/3411/8/_/565855/_/961605091/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Jack Schoof wrote: > > We announced the BX35 product some time ago. This is the Atmel 8535 chip > that is used in the BX24, in DIP form. If I understand this correctly, you are taking the 8535 chip and programming the flash with your basic interpreter? Nothing else "added" though (crystal,eeprom etc.)? If so, it would be pretty easy to "release" a version in the PLCC 8535 as well right? For that matter, if you could come up with a way for us to license the basic interpreter and dump it into our own AVR chips we could really be on to something. There are some applications where a cheaper chip would do fine (2343 etc.) combined with the ease of use of your basic software. Of course, now I guess we are getting away from what I liked about the bx-24 to begin with which was the simplicity of hooking it up,connecting things to it, and having all the features available without adding components (RS-232, ADC, SPI, EEPROM etc.) Just thinking out loud I guess, Stuart Leslie

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What would be the target price in 10-100pc quantities? -----Original Message----- From: Jack Schoof [mailto:] Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 10:30 PM To: Subject: Re: [BasicX] BX-24 options We announced the BX35 product some time ago. This is the Atmel 8535 chip that is used in the BX24, in DIP form. To release this product, we would need to build a developer's kit with a platform for programming since the pinout is different from the BX01 and the BX24. You would still need your own crystal, caps and a SPI EEprom for code storage. We have many products in the pipeline and a BX35 developer's kit is not high priority right now. We could provide a BX35 without a developer's kit for those of you that are willing to make your own cables for downloading. The BX35 would be serial downloadable requiring an inverter (or Max232) and resistors so as to not destroy the inputs of the chip. We would need a large enough interest to warrant supporting the separate processor. Ok you guys, How many does the BasicX community want? Jack -----Original Message----- From: Jan Johnson <> To: BasicX List Server <>; Jack Schoof <> Date: Saturday, June 17, 2000 9:55 AM Subject: [BasicX] BX-24 options >Users and NetMedia: > >Would there be interest in the BX-24 chip (AT90S8535) sold >individually? That would be in 40-pin PDIP or 44-pin PLCC. > >The advantage is easy access to all the I/O pins and the ability to >mount it directly on the particular project circuit board. > >Another option of interest is either serial download or parallel port >download. This would free up a few pins depending on the user >application. > >Cheers... >Rich > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Wrox Wireless Developer Conference, Amsterdam, July 10-12. Choose from >40+ technical sessions covering application of WAP, XML, ASP, Java and >C++ to mobile computing. Get your ticket to the future today! >http://click.egroups.com/1/5689/7/_/565855/_/961260869/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Click here for a chance to win airfare to Vegas for you and 20 friends, $15,000 and a suite at Bellagio for New Year's from Expedia.com. Or win 2 roundtrip tickets anywhere in the U.S. given away daily. http://click.egroups.com/1/5296/7/_/565855/_/961565400/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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I would also be interested in looking at the BX-35 product as part of ythe stuff I write, assuming NetMedia eventually intends to commercialize it. The need to add a crystal, caps, the Max232, and a few resistors seems minimal. -- Gordon At 10:30 PM 6/20/2000 -0700, you wrote: >We announced the BX35 product some time ago. This is the Atmel 8535 chip >that is used in the BX24, in DIP form. > >To release this product, we would need to build a developer's kit with a >platform for programming since the pinout is different from the BX01 and the >BX24. You would still need your own crystal, caps and a SPI EEprom for code >storage. > >We have many products in the pipeline and a BX35 developer's kit is not high >priority right now. We could provide a BX35 without a developer's kit for >those of you that are willing to make your own cables for downloading. The >BX35 would be serial downloadable requiring an inverter (or Max232) and >resistors so as to not destroy the inputs of the chip. > >We would need a large enough interest to warrant supporting the separate >processor. > >Ok you guys, How many does the BasicX community want? > >Jack > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jan Johnson <> >To: BasicX List Server <>; Jack Schoof ><> >Date: Saturday, June 17, 2000 9:55 AM >Subject: [BasicX] BX-24 options >>Users and NetMedia: >> >>Would there be interest in the BX-24 chip (AT90S8535) sold >>individually? That would be in 40-pin PDIP or 44-pin PLCC. >> >>The advantage is easy access to all the I/O pins and the ability to >>mount it directly on the particular project circuit board. >> >>Another option of interest is either serial download or parallel port >>download. This would free up a few pins depending on the user >>application. >> >>Cheers... >>Rich >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>Wrox Wireless Developer Conference, Amsterdam, July 10-12. Choose from >>40+ technical sessions covering application of WAP, XML, ASP, Java and >>C++ to mobile computing. Get your ticket to the future today! >>http://click.egroups.com/1/5689/7/_/565855/_/961260869/ >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Click here for a chance to win airfare to Vegas for you and 20 friends, >$15,000 and a suite at Bellagio for New Year's from Expedia.com. Or >win 2 roundtrip tickets anywhere in the U.S. given away daily. >http://click.egroups.com/1/5296/7/_/565855/_/961565400/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Jack We would be interested in a BX35 chip even if just a 40 pin dip was available. We are currently using the BX24's and could really use access to all the I/O pins. Thank you Ron A. Nucci President Seattle Robotics Society & Seattle Robotics LLC -----Original Message----- From: Gordon McComb <> To: <> Date: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [BasicX] BX-24 options >I would also be interested in looking at the BX-35 product as part of ythe >stuff I write, assuming NetMedia eventually intends to commercialize it. >The need to add a crystal, caps, the Max232, and a few resistors seems >minimal. > >-- Gordon > >At 10:30 PM 6/20/2000 -0700, you wrote: >>We announced the BX35 product some time ago. This is the Atmel 8535 chip >>that is used in the BX24, in DIP form. >> >>To release this product, we would need to build a developer's kit with a >>platform for programming since the pinout is different from the BX01 and the >>BX24. You would still need your own crystal, caps and a SPI EEprom for code >>storage. >> >>We have many products in the pipeline and a BX35 developer's kit is not high >>priority right now. We could provide a BX35 without a developer's kit for >>those of you that are willing to make your own cables for downloading. The >>BX35 would be serial downloadable requiring an inverter (or Max232) and >>resistors so as to not destroy the inputs of the chip. >> >>We would need a large enough interest to warrant supporting the separate >>processor. >> >>Ok you guys, How many does the BasicX community want? >> >>Jack >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Jan Johnson <> >>To: BasicX List Server <>; Jack Schoof >><> >>Date: Saturday, June 17, 2000 9:55 AM >>Subject: [BasicX] BX-24 options >> >> >>>Users and NetMedia: >>> >>>Would there be interest in the BX-24 chip (AT90S8535) sold >>>individually? That would be in 40-pin PDIP or 44-pin PLCC. >>> >>>The advantage is easy access to all the I/O pins and the ability to >>>mount it directly on the particular project circuit board. >>> >>>Another option of interest is either serial download or parallel port >>>download. This would free up a few pins depending on the user >>>application. >>> >>>Cheers... >>>Rich >>> >>> >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>Wrox Wireless Developer Conference, Amsterdam, July 10-12. Choose from >>>40+ technical sessions covering application of WAP, XML, ASP, Java and >>>C++ to mobile computing. Get your ticket to the future today! >>>http://click.egroups.com/1/5689/7/_/565855/_/961260869/ >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>Click here for a chance to win airfare to Vegas for you and 20 friends, >>$15,000 and a suite at Bellagio for New Year's from Expedia.com. Or >>win 2 roundtrip tickets anywhere in the U.S. given away daily. >>http://click.egroups.com/1/5296/7/_/565855/_/961565400/ >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >SALESFORCE.COM MAKES SOFTWARE OBSOLETE >Secure, online sales force automation with 5 users FREE for 1 year! >http://click.egroups.com/1/2658/8/_/565855/_/961609693/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Also is it true that the BX24 and BX35 have 400 bytes of user ram space were the BX01 limits the user ram space to 256 bytes. Cheers... Rich Jack Schoof wrote: > Just more I/O. You would have to put your own EEprom, crystal and crystal > caps on the device to function. Also inverters for the serial port and > resistors. See the BX24 schematic for what needs to be done. > > Jack > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Lageson <> > To: ' <> > Date: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 6:20 AM > Subject: RE: [BasicX] BX-24 options > > >Jack, > >Could you elaborate on what the selling features of the BX35 would be over > >the BX24 (more i/o, speed, etc.)? Please understand that I am a newbie > with > >all this. > > > >From my own experience... > >I bought the BX24 development kit, but I quickly moved from that to a > >breadboard because I didn't want to mess up the development board. Plus > >working on a breadboard is just easier. Because the BX24 is > self-contained, > >it made the step of going to the breadboard easy for me. > > > >If you include the schematics (which you have done before) and maybe a > >simple set of detailed instructions (downloadable) for hooking up (caps, > >eeprom, etc.), I would think that people would be receptive to the BX35. > It > >might also give you the room you need to develop the other products on your > >plate. > > > >- Tom > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Jack Schoof [mailto:] > >Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 12:30 AM > >To: > >Subject: Re: [BasicX] BX-24 options > > > > > >We announced the BX35 product some time ago. This is the Atmel 8535 chip > >that is used in the BX24, in DIP form. > > > >To release this product, we would need to build a developer's kit with a > >platform for programming since the pinout is different from the BX01 and > the > >BX24. You would still need your own crystal, caps and a SPI EEprom for > code > >storage. > > > >We have many products in the pipeline and a BX35 developer's kit is not > high > >priority right now. We could provide a BX35 without a developer's kit for > >those of you that are willing to make your own cables for downloading. The > >BX35 would be serial downloadable requiring an inverter (or Max232) and > >resistors so as to not destroy the inputs of the chip. > > > >We would need a large enough interest to warrant supporting the separate > >processor. > > > >Ok you guys, How many does the BasicX community want? > > > >Jack > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Jan Johnson <> > >To: BasicX List Server <>; Jack Schoof > ><> > >Date: Saturday, June 17, 2000 9:55 AM > >Subject: [BasicX] BX-24 options > > > > > >>Users and NetMedia: > >> > >>Would there be interest in the BX-24 chip (AT90S8535) sold > >>individually? That would be in 40-pin PDIP or 44-pin PLCC. > >> > >>The advantage is easy access to all the I/O pins and the ability to > >>mount it directly on the particular project circuit board. > >> > >>Another option of interest is either serial download or parallel port > >>download. This would free up a few pins depending on the user > >>application. > >> > >>Cheers... > >>Rich > >> > >> > >> > >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>Wrox Wireless Developer Conference, Amsterdam, July 10-12. Choose from > >>40+ technical sessions covering application of WAP, XML, ASP, Java and > >>C++ to mobile computing. Get your ticket to the future today! > >>http://click.egroups.com/1/5689/7/_/565855/_/961260869/ > >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >> > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Click here for a chance to win airfare to Vegas for you and 20 friends, > >$15,000 and a suite at Bellagio for New Year's from Expedia.com. Or > >win 2 roundtrip tickets anywhere in the U.S. given away daily. > >http://click.egroups.com/1/5296/7/_/565855/_/961565400/ > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >$BCg4V$H$O$8$a$k!"Cg4V$r8+$D$1$k!!#e%0%k!<%W(B > >$B!!!!!!!V%0%k!<%W%a!<%k$7$^$;$s$+!)!W(B > >$B%5!<%/%k!&F1Ak2q!&F1N=!&%S%8%M%9!&2HB2$G$I$&$>!*(B > >$B!!(Bhttp://www.egroups.co.jp/info/features.html > >http://click.egroups.com/1/3411/8/_/565855/_/961593621/ > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > $BCg4V$H$O$8$a$k!"Cg4V$r8+$D$1$k!!#e%0%k!<%W(B > $B!!!!!!!V%0%k!<%W%a!<%k$7$^$;$s$+!)!W(B > $B%5!<%/%k!&F1Ak2q!&F1N=!&%S%8%M%9!&2HB2$G$I$&$>!*(B > $B!!(Bhttp://www.egroups.co.jp/info/features.html > http://click.egroups.com/1/3411/8/_/565855/_/961601412/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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