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Re: BasicX BX28 - Peter Charles - Dec 19 18:42:00 2001

Jack-

I want one. Now. I would be happy to beta test some for you ;)

peter > BX28
>
> An Atmel Mega8 which is a 28 pin DIP device, in a 0.300 wide
> package
> (half the width as the BX24/Stamp and 4 more pins). Using it in
> internal oscillator mode running at 4 Mhz for low power. So no
> external crystal, and no external eeprom. The basicx code would
> load
> in the internal 512 bytes of EEprom (small huh). This chip, by
> the
> way, has 1K of RAM, so it has more than double the usable RAM as a
> BX24. It also has 4, 10 bit ADC converters and a built-in power
> on
> reset circuit.
>
> This device would be used in places where you need some tiny
> brains
> due to the lack of code space. Most all the BasicX OS commands
> would
> still apply like pulsein, pulseout, shiftin, shiftout...
>
> Pricing would be around $15 in onezies. Maybe under $10 in
> hundies.
> Give it 2.7 volts to 5 volts and it just runs!
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Jack





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Re: Re: BasicX BX28 - Neil Jepsen - Dec 30 18:24:00 2001

Classes would be a bit difficult, but the docu,mentation whilst adequate
for those with other programming experience, leaves alot to the
imagination, and does not give sufficient detail on how how each
function works. I have printed out the manual and had it bound, and on
many pages, especially serial coms, I have pencilled notes as to
pitfalls, and tricks one needs to know. These SHOULD be in the
documentation.

neil "tad heckaman.com" wrote:

> Yes, the document could be improved a bit and have some tutorial or
> class to learn it.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Neil Jepsen
> To:
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 4:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [BasicX] Re: BasicX BX28 > Theres nothing wrong with the language...the documents could be
> improved
> though
>
> "tad heckaman.com" wrote:
>
> > Here is MY wish list:
> > I would like to see a basicX-24 with an Ethernet port. Have a bus
> on
> > there so people can add devices like:
> > digital camera
> > more I/O ports
> > motor controller
> > Ethernet
> > sound card for prerecorded sounds
> > siteplayer
> > eeprom
> > temperature sensor
> > barometer
> > other third party add ons
> >
> > have the ability to add ram and eeprom and speed up the chip so it
> can
> > handle all these devises all at once. Also simplify the
> programming
> > language.
> >
> > Tad
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Tom Westhoff
> > To:
> > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:22 AM
> > Subject: Re: [BasicX] Re: BasicX BX28
> >
> >
> > I would like to register my wish list for new products.
> >
> > The bx-28 sounds great.
> >
> > I would like to see a bx-24 with more RAM. I don't care if the
> > pinout
> > is compatible with anything, and as always, faster if possible
> > (least
> > important).
> >
> > Special wish:
> > It would also be nice if there was an ethernet interface and
> just
> > UDP
> > send and receive capability added.
> >
> > Tom Igoe wrote:
> >
> > > >In the BX28 there would actually be more than double the ram
> for
> >
> > > data
> > > >storage as a BX24, so your queues could be very large indeed.
>
> > The
> > > >BasicX operating system would take up the 8K of flash in the
> > Mega8
> > > >chip. This then leaves the 512 bytes of EEprom within the
> Mega8
> > chip
> > >
> > > >for the BasicX program you would write.
> > > >
> > > >Again this is just an idea to make a very small BasicX chip
> with
> > no
> > > >external parts. If we had an external EEprom, then we could
> > expand
> > > >the code space back to the 32K that the BX24 has. Except
> now, we
> >
> > > >would have double the ram to play with.
> > >
> > >
> > > when you put it that way, it sounds perfrctly feasible. The
> only
> > time
> > > I've stretched the memory on the BX24 was when doing queues,
> so if
> >
> > > you've got double the RAM, no problem. Stick with the
> one-chip
> > > solution.
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> > > Tom Igoe
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Re: Re: BasicX BX28 - Tom Westhoff - Dec 31 13:04:00 2001

That would work too. I don't need all the functionality of the SP.
If I could hook up the BX-24 to a network hub and just send and receive
UDP data to another BX-24 or another computer I would be happy. I would
kind of use it like I would use rs-232, but just using the network to
connect the devices.
Tom

Tom Igoe wrote: > >
> >Special wish:
> >It would also be nice if there was an ethernet interface and just UDP
>
> >send and receive capability added.
> > So you want the sitePlayer with more I/O and programming
> functionality, basically?
> --
> --
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>
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Re: Re: BasicX BX28 - Neil Jepsen - Dec 31 16:39:00 2001

Theres nothing wrong with the language...the documents could be improved
though

"tad heckaman.com" wrote:

> Here is MY wish list:
> I would like to see a basicX-24 with an Ethernet port. Have a bus on
> there so people can add devices like:
> digital camera
> more I/O ports
> motor controller
> Ethernet
> sound card for prerecorded sounds
> siteplayer
> eeprom
> temperature sensor
> barometer
> other third party add ons
>
> have the ability to add ram and eeprom and speed up the chip so it can
> handle all these devises all at once. Also simplify the programming
> language.
>
> Tad
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tom Westhoff
> To:
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [BasicX] Re: BasicX BX28 > I would like to register my wish list for new products.
>
> The bx-28 sounds great.
>
> I would like to see a bx-24 with more RAM. I don't care if the
> pinout
> is compatible with anything, and as always, faster if possible
> (least
> important).
>
> Special wish:
> It would also be nice if there was an ethernet interface and just
> UDP
> send and receive capability added.
>
> Tom Igoe wrote:
>
> > >In the BX28 there would actually be more than double the ram for
>
> > data
> > >storage as a BX24, so your queues could be very large indeed.
> The
> > >BasicX operating system would take up the 8K of flash in the
> Mega8
> > >chip. This then leaves the 512 bytes of EEprom within the Mega8
> chip
> >
> > >for the BasicX program you would write.
> > >
> > >Again this is just an idea to make a very small BasicX chip with
> no
> > >external parts. If we had an external EEprom, then we could
> expand
> > >the code space back to the 32K that the BX24 has. Except now, we
>
> > >would have double the ram to play with.
> >
> >
> > when you put it that way, it sounds perfrctly feasible. The only
> time
> > I've stretched the memory on the BX24 was when doing queues, so if
>
> > you've got double the RAM, no problem. Stick with the one-chip
> > solution.
> > --
> > --
> > Tom Igoe
> >
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Re: Re: BasicX BX28 - tad heckaman.com - Dec 31 17:44:00 2001

Yes, the document could be improved a bit and have some tutorial or class to learn it.
----- Original Message -----
From: Neil Jepsen
To:
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [BasicX] Re: BasicX BX28 Theres nothing wrong with the language...the documents could be improved
though

"tad heckaman.com" wrote:

> Here is MY wish list:
> I would like to see a basicX-24 with an Ethernet port. Have a bus on
> there so people can add devices like:
> digital camera
> more I/O ports
> motor controller
> Ethernet
> sound card for prerecorded sounds
> siteplayer
> eeprom
> temperature sensor
> barometer
> other third party add ons
>
> have the ability to add ram and eeprom and speed up the chip so it can
> handle all these devises all at once. Also simplify the programming
> language.
>
> Tad
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tom Westhoff
> To:
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [BasicX] Re: BasicX BX28 > I would like to register my wish list for new products.
>
> The bx-28 sounds great.
>
> I would like to see a bx-24 with more RAM. I don't care if the
> pinout
> is compatible with anything, and as always, faster if possible
> (least
> important).
>
> Special wish:
> It would also be nice if there was an ethernet interface and just
> UDP
> send and receive capability added.
>
> Tom Igoe wrote:
>
> > >In the BX28 there would actually be more than double the ram for
>
> > data
> > >storage as a BX24, so your queues could be very large indeed.
> The
> > >BasicX operating system would take up the 8K of flash in the
> Mega8
> > >chip. This then leaves the 512 bytes of EEprom within the Mega8
> chip
> >
> > >for the BasicX program you would write.
> > >
> > >Again this is just an idea to make a very small BasicX chip with
> no
> > >external parts. If we had an external EEprom, then we could
> expand
> > >the code space back to the 32K that the BX24 has. Except now, we
>
> > >would have double the ram to play with.
> >
> >
> > when you put it that way, it sounds perfrctly feasible. The only
> time
> > I've stretched the memory on the BX24 was when doing queues, so if
>
> > you've got double the RAM, no problem. Stick with the one-chip
> > solution.
> > --
> > --
> > Tom Igoe
> >
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