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Discussion Groups | BasicX | Re: Re: BasicX BX28

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Re: Re: BasicX BX28 - twesthoff - Mar 19 8:09:00 2002

As far as I know there is not any easy way to get ethernet connectivity
for the BX24.
However you can get limited success by adding an external ethernet
chip. There is no protocol stack (unless you write one), but you should
be able to send and receive UDP packets, by manipulating the registers
in the ethernet chip.
Check out: http://www.embeddedethernet.com/
I have used this circuit with other micros like the BX24. You can
modify the authors code, he has a version for the basic stamp.

Tom

andy_powell_is wrote: > Hi,
>
> Just joined the group. I've been using Basic Stamps and (more
> recently) Atoms for my stuff. However, if there was ethernet
> connectivity added to the BX24 then I'd dump them in an instant. The
> only other thing of course is I'd want more than one i/o pin free
> which I think is the situation with currently available ethernet add-
> on boards.
>
> I'm after building (sorry - that's such bad English!) LCD devices and
> temperature monitors that are ethernet enabled so that my Home
> automation system can query temperatures and send messages around the
> house.
>
> Andy
>
> Err sorry to be a bit slow.. is the BX24 pin compatible with the
> basic stamp 2? I've always assumed it was... but am unsure >
> --- In basicx@y..., Tom Westhoff <twesthoff@f...> wrote:
> > That would work too. I don't need all the functionality of the SP.
> > If I could hook up the BX-24 to a network hub and just send and
> receive
> > UDP data to another BX-24 or another computer I would be happy. I
> would
> > kind of use it like I would use rs-232, but just using the network
> to
> > connect the devices.
> > Tom
> >
> > Tom Igoe wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >Special wish:
> > > >It would also be nice if there was an ethernet interface and
> just UDP
> > >
> > > >send and receive capability added.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > So you want the sitePlayer with more I/O and programming
> > > functionality, basically?
> > > --
> > > --
> > > Tom Igoe
> > >
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RE: Re: BasicX BX28 - Rene Braeckman - Mar 19 8:27:00 2002

Another site to check out is http://www.embeddedether.net/
This seems to be a different board for about the same price. However, it
has an application note for the BX24.
-Rene

-----Original Message-----
From: twesthoff [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 8:09 AM
To:
Subject: Re: [BasicX] Re: BasicX BX28 As far as I know there is not any easy way to get ethernet connectivity
for the BX24.
However you can get limited success by adding an external ethernet
chip. There is no protocol stack (unless you write one), but you should
be able to send and receive UDP packets, by manipulating the registers
in the ethernet chip.
Check out: http://www.embeddedethernet.com/
I have used this circuit with other micros like the BX24. You can
modify the authors code, he has a version for the basic stamp.

Tom

andy_powell_is wrote: > Hi,
>
> Just joined the group. I've been using Basic Stamps and (more
> recently) Atoms for my stuff. However, if there was ethernet
> connectivity added to the BX24 then I'd dump them in an instant. The
> only other thing of course is I'd want more than one i/o pin free
> which I think is the situation with currently available ethernet add-
> on boards.
>
> I'm after building (sorry - that's such bad English!) LCD devices and
> temperature monitors that are ethernet enabled so that my Home
> automation system can query temperatures and send messages around the
> house.
>
> Andy
>
> Err sorry to be a bit slow.. is the BX24 pin compatible with the
> basic stamp 2? I've always assumed it was... but am unsure >
> --- In basicx@y..., Tom Westhoff <twesthoff@f...> wrote:
> > That would work too. I don't need all the functionality of the SP.
> > If I could hook up the BX-24 to a network hub and just send and
> receive
> > UDP data to another BX-24 or another computer I would be happy. I
> would
> > kind of use it like I would use rs-232, but just using the network
> to
> > connect the devices.
> > Tom
> >
> > Tom Igoe wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >Special wish:
> > > >It would also be nice if there was an ethernet interface and
> just UDP
> > >
> > > >send and receive capability added.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > So you want the sitePlayer with more I/O and programming
> > > functionality, basically?
> > > --
> > > --
> > > Tom Igoe
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
> > [Image]
> >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> Service. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
ADVERTISEMENT >
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
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Re: BasicX BX28 - jschoof - Mar 19 9:59:00 2002

The Easy way to get internet connectivity for the BX24 is to connect
a SitePlayer to it. NetMedia, Inc. makes both devices. Using just a
serial port in the BX24 (two pins) you can have web pages provided by
the SitePlayer with live data from the BX24.

See www.siteplayer.com

Jack Schoof
NetMedia, Inc.

--- In basicx@y..., twesthoff <twesthoff@f...> wrote:
> As far as I know there is not any easy way to get ethernet
connectivity
> for the BX24.
> However you can get limited success by adding an external ethernet
> chip. There is no protocol stack (unless you write one), but you
should
> be able to send and receive UDP packets, by manipulating the
registers
> in the ethernet chip.
> Check out: http://www.embeddedethernet.com/
> I have used this circuit with other micros like the BX24. You can
> modify the authors code, he has a version for the basic stamp.
>
> Tom
>
> andy_powell_is wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Just joined the group. I've been using Basic Stamps and (more
> > recently) Atoms for my stuff. However, if there was ethernet
> > connectivity added to the BX24 then I'd dump them in an instant.
The
> > only other thing of course is I'd want more than one i/o pin free
> > which I think is the situation with currently available ethernet
add-
> > on boards.
> >
> > I'm after building (sorry - that's such bad English!) LCD devices
and
> > temperature monitors that are ethernet enabled so that my Home
> > automation system can query temperatures and send messages around
the
> > house.
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > Err sorry to be a bit slow.. is the BX24 pin compatible with the
> > basic stamp 2? I've always assumed it was... but am unsure
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In basicx@y..., Tom Westhoff <twesthoff@f...> wrote:
> > > That would work too. I don't need all the functionality of the
SP.
> > > If I could hook up the BX-24 to a network hub and just send and
> > receive
> > > UDP data to another BX-24 or another computer I would be
happy. I
> > would
> > > kind of use it like I would use rs-232, but just using the
network
> > to
> > > connect the devices.
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > Tom Igoe wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Special wish:
> > > > >It would also be nice if there was an ethernet interface and
> > just UDP
> > > >
> > > > >send and receive capability added.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So you want the sitePlayer with more I/O and programming
> > > > functionality, basically?
> > > > --
> > > > --
> > > > Tom Igoe
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
> > > [Image]
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> > Service.
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
> ADVERTISEMENT > >
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RE: Re: BasicX BX28 - James Mansion - Mar 27 18:46:00 2002

>As far as I know there is not any easy way to get ethernet connectivity
>for the BX24.

Sure - hang a TINI off its serial port, use the BX24 for interfacing
IO and all that pseudo-realtime stuff, and run the control algorithm
and data store in the comparatively huge TINI memory.

Not so cheap though. :-(

James





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Re: BasicX BX28 - vmmaint - Mar 27 22:43:00 2002

Though I have as yet to implement it I thought that SitePlayer would
suffice for this. Its not that expensive and thats why I purchased it.

The 'device processor' communicates via 'objects' to the SP html pages
and the user (client) then uses a normal browser to retrieve the
pages and view the output of the objects. --- In basicx@y..., "James Mansion" <james@w...> wrote:
> >As far as I know there is not any easy way to get ethernet
connectivity
> >for the BX24.
>
> Sure - hang a TINI off its serial port, use the BX24 for interfacing
> IO and all that pseudo-realtime stuff, and run the control algorithm
> and data store in the comparatively huge TINI memory.
>
> Not so cheap though. :-(
>
> James





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Re: BasicX BX28 - biovirus1 - Mar 27 23:19:00 2002

Take a good look at the iChip:

http://www.kprinc.com/2000/pr002.htm

Cheers,

Alex.

--- In basicx@y..., "vmmaint" <vmmaint@y...> wrote:
> Though I have as yet to implement it I thought that SitePlayer
would
> suffice for this. Its not that expensive and thats why I purchased
it.
>
> The 'device processor' communicates via 'objects' to the SP html
pages
> and the user (client) then uses a normal browser to retrieve the
> pages and view the output of the objects. > --- In basicx@y..., "James Mansion" <james@w...> wrote:
> > >As far as I know there is not any easy way to get ethernet
> connectivity
> > >for the BX24.
> >
> > Sure - hang a TINI off its serial port, use the BX24 for
interfacing
> > IO and all that pseudo-realtime stuff, and run the control
algorithm
> > and data store in the comparatively huge TINI memory.
> >
> > Not so cheap though. :-(
> >
> > James




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RE: Re: BasicX BX28 - James Mansion - Mar 29 3:57:00 2002

>Though I have as yet to implement it I thought that SitePlayer would
>suffice for this. Its not that expensive and thats why I purchased it.

I guess 'it depends'. You can telnet to TINI, and FTP to and from
it. It can create server-side sockets, send out UDP datagrams,
etc. Just like a 'real computer' only much (much!) slower.

Its probably unreasonable to compare the two.

James




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