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Discussion Groups | FPGA-CPU | Re: Re: why FPGA?

This list is for discussion of the design and implementation of field-programmable gate array based processors and integrated systems. It is also for discussion and community support of the XSOC Project (see http://www.fpgacpu.org/xsoc).

Re: Re: why FPGA? - Jeff Brower - Jan 10 16:36:00 2005

Rick-

> It is not an issue of needing 5 volts out, the problem is that most
> bus interfaces need bidirectional signals. It is not practical to use
> a resistor to protect a pin when it also has to drive the signal.
> Even if it is an output only, such as interrupt pins, if the signal is
> pulled up to 5 volts, you have a problem.

It protects it both ways. It works fine, everywhere we've tried it.

-Jeff






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Re: why FPGA? - Author Unknown - Jan 10 20:34:00 2005


--- In , Jeff Brower <jbrower@s...> wrote:
> Rick-
>
> > It is not an issue of needing 5 volts out, the problem is that most
> > bus interfaces need bidirectional signals. It is not practical to use
> > a resistor to protect a pin when it also has to drive the signal.
> > Even if it is an output only, such as interrupt pins, if the signal is
> > pulled up to 5 volts, you have a problem.
>
> It protects it both ways. It works fine, everywhere we've tried it.

What? You can drive a shared bus using a 220 ohm series resistor?
That would give you horrible rise/fall times. I guess if you are
clocking a one-wire interface that would not be an issue. But any
normal high speed bus will likely not work with that sort of a driver
impedance.

Or am I missing something here?






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Re: Re: why FPGA? - Kolja Sulimma - Jan 11 3:14:00 2005

wrote:

>>ays. It works fine, everywhere we've tried it.
>>
>>
>
>What? You can drive a shared bus using a 220 ohm series resistor?
>That would give you horrible rise/fall times. I guess if you are
>clocking a one-wire interface that would not be an issue. But any
>normal high speed bus will likely not work with that sort of a driver
>impedance.
>
>Or am I missing something here? I just build a rather thin multi layer PCB. The impedance of a minimum
width stripline of that board was 170R.
An output with a 170R Resistor will give you the fastest possible
settling time for that kind of wire.
A lot faster than without the resistor.

Kolja Sulimma




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