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Discussion group dedicated to the Philips LPC2000 family of ARM MCUs

Ethernet on ARM chip? - nma550n - Dec 27 13:48:00 2005

Is there any company producing ARM7 chips with Ethernet built in?
Like the DS80C400?
Would be great not having to interface an external Ethernet chip.

Cheers Nick

btw
Merry Christmas!




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Re: Ethernet on ARM chip? - atmelbr - Dec 27 14:23:00 2005

--- In lpc2000@lpc2..., "nma550n" <nma550n@y...> wrote:
>
> Is there any company producing ARM7 chips with Ethernet built in?
> Like the DS80C400?
> Would be great not having to interface an external Ethernet chip.
>
Yes,
Samsung S3C4510B

> Cheers Nick
>
> btw
> Merry Christmas!





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RE: Ethernet on ARM chip? - Paul Curtis - Dec 27 14:39:00 2005

Try NetSilicon NS7520 or the AT91SAM7X.

--
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CrossWorks for MSP430, ARM, AVR and now MAXQ processors

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nma550n [mailto:nma550n@nma5...]
> Sent: 27 December 2005 17:49
> To: lpc2000@lpc2...
> Subject: [lpc2000] Ethernet on ARM chip?
>
> Is there any company producing ARM7 chips with Ethernet built in?
> Like the DS80C400?
> Would be great not having to interface an external Ethernet chip.
>
> Cheers Nick
>
> btw
> Merry Christmas! >
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Re: Ethernet on ARM chip? - Tom Walsh - Dec 27 15:26:00 2005

nma550n wrote:

>Is there any company producing ARM7 chips with Ethernet built in?
>Like the DS80C400?
>Would be great not having to interface an external Ethernet chip. >
Look at the Sharp LH79524 & LH79525 (ARM720):
http://www.sharpsma.com/productgroup.php?ProductGroupID=53&SubProductGroupID=1 Regards,

TomW --
Tom Walsh - WN3L - Embedded Systems Consultant
http://openhardware.net, http://cyberiansoftware.com
"Windows? No thanks, I have work to do..."
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Re: Ethernet on ARM chip? - nma550n - Dec 27 15:56:00 2005

Cheers guys.

Are there any cheap development boards fro these chips around?
When i say cheap ~£70 or less, and as a bonus avaliable in the UK?




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RE: Re: Ethernet on ARM chip? - Joel Winarske - Dec 27 18:04:00 2005

> Cheers guys.
>
> Are there any cheap development boards fro these chips around?
> When i say cheap ~£70 or less, and as a bonus avaliable in the UK?

Samsung S3C4510B Dev board: $150 US
http://microcontrollershop.com/product_info.php?cPath=98&products_id=771

I'm curious if you find something more cost effective. Phillips has mentioned they may have an LPC with EMAC sometime first quarter
06'. Joel




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Re: Ethernet on ARM chip? - nuloson - Dec 28 0:58:00 2005

Maybe

LPC23XX

512K/64K, Ethernet MAC, USB/OTG, 3V regulated, Flash security --- In lpc2000@lpc2..., "Joel Winarske" <joelw@i...> wrote:
>
> > Cheers guys.
> >
> > Are there any cheap development boards fro these chips around?
> > When i say cheap ~?0 or less, and as a bonus avaliable in the UK?
>
> Samsung S3C4510B Dev board: $150 US
> http://microcontrollershop.com/product_info.php?
cPath=98&products_id=771
>
> I'm curious if you find something more cost effective. > Phillips has mentioned they may have an LPC with EMAC sometime
first quarter
> 06'. > Joel





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Re: Ethernet on ARM chip? - jayasooriah - Dec 28 1:17:00 2005

I would not recommend anyone depend on "flash security" feature until
we have had Philips come back from hols and tell us about the hidden
ISP command(s) and/or method(s) in the boot loader.

For example, invoking the undocumented T command with five arguments
(all zeroes) produces a lot of output.

Jaya

--- In lpc2000@lpc2..., "nuloson" <nuloson@y...> wrote:
>
> Maybe
>
> LPC23XX
>
> 512K/64K, Ethernet MAC, USB/OTG, 3V regulated, Flash security




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Re: Re: Ethernet on ARM chip? - Craig Schlenter - Dec 28 1:36:00 2005

On 28 Dec 2005, at 7:17 AM, jayasooriah wrote:

> I would not recommend anyone depend on "flash security" feature until
> we have had Philips come back from hols and tell us about the hidden
> ISP command(s) and/or method(s) in the boot loader.

*yawn* I don't suppose you could keep your insinuations about flash
security
in the original thread until you have actual proof that there is a
problem?





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Re: Ethernet on ARM chip? - jayasooriah - Dec 28 1:54:00 2005

Let me assure you that the 'T' command not the only hidden method of
getting the boot loader to do things using ISP commands that is not
documented anywhere.

I am sure you had you your toungue firmly in your cheek when you said
"insinuations" :)

--- In lpc2000@lpc2..., Craig Schlenter <craig.schlenter@g...>
wrote:
> *yawn* I don't suppose you could keep your insinuations about flash
> security
> in the original thread until you have actual proof that there is a
> problem?





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Re: Re: Flash security - Michael Rubitschka - Dec 28 3:26:00 2005

PLEASE!!!!
Isnt there a list relating to flash security where you could put your
asumptions?
If not be so kind an found one.

Cheers
Michael >From: Craig Schlenter <craig.schlenter@crai...>
>*yawn* I don't suppose you could keep your insinuations about flash
>security
>in the original thread until you have actual proof that there is a
>problem?

LOL!!!!




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RE: Re: Ethernet on ARM chip? - Joel Winarske - Dec 28 3:26:00 2005

> LPC23XX
>
> 512K/64K, Ethernet MAC, USB/OTG, 3V regulated, Flash security

2H '05 for the LPC23xx as stated here:
http://www.macro-peterburg.ru/pdf/2005_04_25_PHILIPS_MCUs.pdf

Perhaps engineering samples might be available in two months? I'm not
holding my breath, though it would be nice. Joel




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Re: Ethernet on ARM chip? - nma550n - Dec 28 13:34:00 2005

Joel wrote:
> Samsung S3C4510B Dev board: $150 US
> http://microcontrollershop.com/product_info.php?cPath=98&products_id=771
>
> I'm curious if you find something more cost effective.

Cheers Joel.
$150 is a bargin!
Shame it's not avaliable in the uk. I know I can get it shipped, but
that will cost extra, due to tax and stuff.




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RE: Re: Ethernet on ARM chip? - Joel Winarske - Dec 28 14:38:00 2005

> Joel wrote:
> > Samsung S3C4510B Dev board: $150 US
> > http://microcontrollershop.com/product_info.php?cPath=98&products_id=771
> >
> > I'm curious if you find something more cost effective.
>
> Cheers Joel.
> $150 is a bargin!
> Shame it's not avaliable in the uk. I know I can get it shipped, but
> that will cost extra, due to tax and stuff.

You might contact the manufacturer and check on European distribution:
http://www.embedinfo.com/english/Product/ax4510.asp Joel




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RE: Re: Ethernet on ARM chip? - Joel Winarske - Dec 28 14:45:00 2005

> > $150 is a bargin!
> > Shame it's not avaliable in the uk. I know I can get it shipped, but
> > that will cost extra, due to tax and stuff.
>
> You might contact the manufacturer and check on European distribution:
> http://www.embedinfo.com/english/Product/ax4510.asp http://www.embedinfo.com/english/partner/Distributors.asp




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Re: Ethernet on ARM chip? - nma550n - Dec 28 15:08:00 2005

--- In lpc2000@lpc2..., "Joel Winarske" <joelw@i...> wrote:
>
> > > $150 is a bargin!
> > > Shame it's not avaliable in the uk. I know I can get it shipped, but
> > > that will cost extra, due to tax and stuff.
> >
> > You might contact the manufacturer and check on European distribution:
> > http://www.embedinfo.com/english/Product/ax4510.asp
> >
>
> http://www.embedinfo.com/english/partner/Distributors.asp
>
did'nt notice that link. however, there asking £175 + shipping
see:
http://www.gwmicros.com/public_html/pages/products/iproducts/Boards/Embest/Evaluation_Board_AX4510.htm
shame
thanks again




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Re: Re: Ethernet on ARM chip? - Doug Sutherland - Dec 28 15:49:00 2005

This isn't what you're looking for, but here's an ARM chip with
FIVE ethernet, UART, PCI bus, and memory expansion:

http://www.micrel.com/_PDF/Ethernet/DS_Digi/ks8695px%20ds.pdf

Looks like something interesting to play with. Also interesting
is this ARM7 with firewire:

http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/tsb43cb43a.html

Anyone know of any other special function chips with ARM cores?

-- Doug





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Re: Ethernet on ARM chip? - nma550n - Dec 29 6:59:00 2005

Doug wrote:
>
> This isn't what you're looking for, but here's an ARM chip with
> FIVE ethernet, UART, PCI bus, and memory expansion:
>
> http://www.micrel.com/_PDF/Ethernet/DS_Digi/ks8695px%20ds.pdf
>
> Looks like something interesting to play with. Also interesting
> is this ARM7 with firewire:
>
> http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/tsb43cb43a.html
>
> Anyone know of any other special function chips with ARM cores?
>
> -- Doug Doug the first link for the chip wuth 5 ethernet does not work. Sounds
very interesting though!
As for the Ti chip, it is fairly packed with functionality!
Thanks for the links.

As Doug said, are there any other special function chips with ARM cores?
Would be good to complie a web page with all the different chips and
functionalities.

Nick




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Re: Re: Ethernet on ARM chip? - Doug Sutherland - Dec 29 11:44:00 2005

Nick,

> Doug the first link for the chip wuth 5 ethernet does not work. Sounds
> very interesting though!

This is the part reference at digikey
http://www.digikey.ca/scripts/dksearch/dksus.dll?PName?Name=576-1024-ND&site=us

I think the micrel site may be having problems, so maybe try the
site later and look for KS8695.

http://www.micrel.com > As for the Ti chip, it is fairly packed with functionality!

There is some controversy related to the TI IceLynx Micro. The chip
implements crypto that disallows moving copyrighted content over
firewire (copying). However, TI makes two versions of that chip,
one with crypto and one without. The one I mentioned doesn't have
the crypto. The interesting thing about that chip is its interface
between consumer A/V and firewire.

I'm planning to make breakout boards for these two chips because I
think they are very interesting ARM core implementations. Will post
some info later when I have some boards.

-- Doug





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Re: Re: Ethernet on ARM chip? - Viron Papadopoulos - Dec 29 14:33:00 2005

Evaluation kits for micrel ARM CPUs are available
from
http://www.nuhorizons.com/partnersites/micrel/ethernet-eval-kits.asp

Regards,
Viron. --- Doug Sutherland <doug@doug...> wrote:

> Nick,
>
> > Doug the first link for the chip wuth 5 ethernet
> does not work. Sounds
> > very interesting though!
>
> This is the part reference at digikey
>
http://www.digikey.ca/scripts/dksearch/dksus.dll?PName?Name=576-1024-ND&site=us
>
> I think the micrel site may be having problems, so
> maybe try the
> site later and look for KS8695.
>
> http://www.micrel.com > > As for the Ti chip, it is fairly packed with
> functionality!
>
> There is some controversy related to the TI IceLynx
> Micro. The chip
> implements crypto that disallows moving copyrighted
> content over
> firewire (copying). However, TI makes two versions
> of that chip,
> one with crypto and one without. The one I mentioned
> doesn't have
> the crypto. The interesting thing about that chip is
> its interface
> between consumer A/V and firewire.
>
> I'm planning to make breakout boards for these two
> chips because I
> think they are very interesting ARM core
> implementations. Will post
> some info later when I have some boards.
>
> -- Doug __________________________________________
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Schmartboard - Michael Rubitschka - Jan 1 12:03:00 2006

Hi

i just read some of you have experience with schmart boards.
When I first heard about them they promised to have the solution
for BGA prototyping. When I look on their hompage, they only
had solutions for the easy smd parts like tqpf44. I dont need
a schmart board to solder such devices. As soon as the pitch
gets smaler there is no schmartboard.

They seem to have some problems to fullfill their marketing promises.
The last time I looked on their webpage was half a year ago.

At least from your comments the available boards are working.
Thats already something.

Cheers
Michael




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