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If anyone is interested, Philips is running a contest for application notes that may be published. If you want to have a chance at winning $1000.00 check out the website: www.semiconductors.philips.com/appnote_contest By just submitting an abstract, you will have a chance to win a Philips MP3 keychain. Any takers? Jim

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--- In , "jim_e_dallas" <jim_e_dallas@y...> wrote: > If (anyone) "Open only to U.S. residents"!!!!!!! is interested, Philips is running a contest for application > notes that may be published. If you want to have a chance at winning > $1000.00 check out the website: > > www.semiconductors.philips.com/appnote_contest > > By just submitting an abstract, you will have a chance to win a > Philips MP3 keychain. Any takers? > > Jim Why exclude the rest of the world ? Andreas

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----- Original Message ----- From: "haack0815" <> To: <> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 4:46 PM Subject: [lpc2000] Re: Philips ARM appnote contest > --- In , "jim_e_dallas" <jim_e_dallas@y...> wrote: > > If > > (anyone) > > "Open only to U.S. residents"!!!!!!! > > is interested, Philips is running a contest for application > > notes that may be published. If you want to have a chance at winning > > $1000.00 check out the website: > > > > www.semiconductors.philips.com/appnote_contest > > > > By just submitting an abstract, you will have a chance to win a > > Philips MP3 keychain. Any takers? > > > > Jim > > Why exclude the rest of the world ? That is strange, Philips is based in Holland. Leon

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Not so strange really -- these design contests and the like are not democratic programs designed to spread knowledge freely over the world (OK, that may be a nice side effect). They are a sales tool designed to spark interest in a certain market segment -- in this case probably to increase the awareness in the U.S. market. Matt Pobursky Maximum Performance Systems On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 07:52:17 -0000, Leon Heller wrote: > > --- In , "jim_e_dallas" <jim_e_dallas@y...> wrote: > > > If > >  > > (anyone) > >  > > "Open only to U.S. residents"!!!!!!! > >  > > is interested, Philips is running a contest for application > > > notes that may be published. If you want to have a chance at winning > > > $1000.00 check out the website: > > >  > > > www.semiconductors.philips.com/appnote_contest > > >  > > > By just submitting an abstract, you will have a chance to win a > > > Philips MP3 keychain. Any takers? > > >  > > > Jim > >  > > Why exclude the rest of the world ? >  > That is strange, Philips is based in Holland.

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> That is strange, Philips is based in Holland. > > Leon Philips started making lightbulbs in Eindhoven many, many years ago, but a lot of stuff is done in Sunnyvale, CA. besides others :-) -- Kris

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>Why exclude the rest of the world ? > >Andreas perhaphs they assume that Appnotes without typos could be written only in US ;) too bad we didn't read that the contest is only for US residents and send e-mails to lot of our customers who bought LPC dev boards from us (many of them are not in US) Tsvetan

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Hi guys, give us a break, please. Although our application team has not been involved in this contest, the goal was to provide more information to more engineers worldwide. Or, in a nutshell to help everyone helping everyone else. I responded to Matt's e-mail because I think it comes close to what actually happened. Again, I am not familiar with the details of the contest but contests need a sponsor. The sponsor of this event is located in the USA. We do not question your ability to write an application note in proper English. (English is not my native language either ;-) Don't know what else to say but would like to apologize that this contest has created a kind of negative discussion. It was definitely meant for the best! Regards, Robert --- In , Matt Pobursky <ccsuser@m...> wrote: > Not so strange really -- these design contests and the like are not > democratic programs designed to spread knowledge freely over the world > (OK, that may be a nice side effect). They are a sales tool designed to > spark interest in a certain market segment -- in this case probably to > increase the awareness in the U.S. market. > > Matt Pobursky > Maximum Performance Systems > > On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 07:52:17 -0000, Leon Heller wrote: > > > --- In , "jim_e_dallas" <jim_e_dallas@y...> wrote: > > > > If > > > > > > (anyone) > > > > > > "Open only to U.S. residents"!!!!!!! > > > > > > is interested, Philips is running a contest for application > > > > notes that may be published. If you want to have a chance at winning > > > > $1000.00 check out the website: > > > > > > > > www.semiconductors.philips.com/appnote_contest > > > > > > > > By just submitting an abstract, you will have a chance to win a > > > > Philips MP3 keychain. Any takers? > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > Why exclude the rest of the world ? > > > > That is strange, Philips is based in Holland.

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> give us a break, please. Although our application team has not been > involved in this contest, the goal was to provide more information to And in a related note, why the hell is it that this particular microcontroller seems to generate so much more acrimony and controversy in its support group than any other I've used? -- -- Lewin A.R.W. Edwards Work: http://www.digi-frame.com/ Personal: http://www.larwe.com/

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Lewin A.R.W. Edwards" <> To: <> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [lpc2000] Re: Philips ARM appnote contest > > give us a break, please. Although our application team has not been > > involved in this contest, the goal was to provide more information to > > And in a related note, why the hell is it that this particular > microcontroller seems to generate so much more acrimony and controversy > in its support group than any other I've used? The PicList isn't any better. There is an even more acrimonious discussion going on there - something to do with making pencils. 8-) Leon

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I would guess this has more to do with legal liability. If you make an offer in a global forum, you're offering it to everyone everywhere in the world and you will be expected to comply with their laws in doing so. If you say the offer is good only in a limited area, you limit the laws with which you must comply. So, to offer this to U.S. residents only means that they just need to pass the offer by a team of U.S. law aware lawyers to ensure that it's good. To offer it to the whole world, you'd have to retain legal counsel in every country in the world to review your proposal. I'm pretty sure that would cost more than $20K (USD). So, since the idea of the contest is to come up with good app notes, not to employ lawyers, they probably picked a limited area for which they had free access to legal counsel. For those in the U.S. you're probably familiar with the little blurbs they add to the end of free prize contests where they state that the offer is not valid in certain states because those specific states have some law preventing the contest from being legal in their jurisdiction. If all of the states in the US can't even agree on how to make it legal to *give away for free* some item, do you expect every country in the world to have uniform laws on business contracts? So, don't blame Philips, take issue with your local lawmakers for being so silly. :) Cheers, David

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--- In , David Willmore <willmore@o...> wrote: > > I would guess this has more to do with legal liability. If you > make an offer in a global forum, you're offering it to everyone > everywhere in the world and you will be expected to comply with > their laws in doing so. If you say the offer is good only in a > limited area, you limit the laws with which you must comply. I doubt it. There are many international competitions. All that is required is some disclaimer (required in the USA anyway) that the rules etc are subject to the laws of the state of California or whatever. There could be some issues because Philips is a European company, I guess. More likely it is just coming out of a certain USA division's budget and the division isn't "thinking globally". -- Charles

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> I doubt it. There are many international competitions. All that is > required is some disclaimer (required in the USA anyway) that the > rules etc are subject to the laws of the state of California or Ridiculous though it sounds, in some jurisdictions you are required to obtain a lottery/gaming/raffle permit to hold a contest of this sort. > More likely it is just coming out of a certain USA division's budget > and the division isn't "thinking globally". There's a shade more to it than just parochialism. Philips USA is only interested in US design wins, preferably wins that will source their parts directly through Philips US (rather than buying in, say, China). Ditto for, say, Philips Europe. So they are interested in attracting attention locally. Advertising to overseas contestants (a) steps on the toes of other global divisions (who might be contemplating running their own local contests of the same sort), and (b) dilutes marketing dollars by opening up entry to people who won't possibly be buying parts from Philips USA. The rationale is easily understandable. -- -- Lewin A.R.W. Edwards (http://www.zws.com/) Learn how to develop high-end embedded systems on a tight budget! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0750676094/zws-20

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