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Robert: Jeez, Robert, if you hate Motorola so much why do you hang around the list? It doesn't matter if a PIC runs at 40 MHz, a fast piece of crap is still a piece of crap... And I can't see how the PIC braindead memory paging and RPN logic is in any way simpler than an 'HC11... The HC11 has a flat memory model, memory mapped I/O, extensive bit manipulation instructions, superb timer system, and even though it doesn't run at 40 MHz, it is very efficient and can do amazing things in control applications. You don't see the Big 3 (Ford, GM, and Chrysler) using any PICs in engine and drive train control systems... Motorola will be around for a loooonnngg time yet. There is a clear upgrade path, and the 'HC11 is getting long in the tooth. I'ts been around for 25 years, and is still being used for new designs today. Show me a PIC that's been in service for 25 years! > "Darrell N." wrote: > > Since I abhor the brain-dead PIC architecture, and Atmel > > doesn't > > Not really. Its just a much simpler one. Hence the > availability of 40Mhz clock speeds. And many cost effective > variants. > > > seem much better, I'll be sticking with Motorola. Probably the > > Whatever works for you. But PIC processors will always be > available. And upwardly compatible (within families). Will the > Motorola ones? Why are there no HC11's with more than 2K of > flash? (are there any now? I stopped looking/waiting for one > after I changed horses). > > > '12, but the 908 stuff in some cases is even more powerful than > > the '11, so I don't necessarily see it as a downgrade. The > > Nitrons are nice "PIC Killers" for small apps, as well. > > Sure. If you are certain that you can get them in the future. I > have been burned by HC11 allocation problems too many times to > ever go back to Motorola. While I prefer the Moto architecture, > their repeated inability to deliver product in a reasonable time > frame forced me to cross them off my list of possible suppliers. > > > Long live Motorola! > > Long live Microchip, Atmel, Maxim/Dallas, etc. We need choice and > multiple suppliers of a given architecture. Single source is a > 'bad thing'. Burn me once... > > Robert > > Regards, Darrell Norquay Datalog Technology Inc. Calgary, Alberta, Canada Voice: (403) 243-2220 Fax: (403) 243-2872 Email: Web: www.datalog.ab.ca

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