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Discussion Groups | | Security bit in HC711E9/ New HC11 member?

Security bit in HC711E9/ New HC11 member? - John Samperi - Nov 20 17:33:00 2002

G'day all

Before I get to my question, I was looking at the Moto website for
update information about the security bit and I came across a chip
that I didn't know existed. It's a 68HC711EA9 with both mask ROM
(12K), OTP Eprom (12K), the usual 512 bytes of EEPROM and
a PLL clock generator.
Does anyone know anything about this? Is it a "new " chip or is
Motorola making a device that may replace some more of the
HC11 family members? I do get a little paranoid I must confess!!

Meanwhile, back at the ranch........The information I have shows
the NOSEC bit forced to one, which would indicate that the part
cannot be secured. I tried to program the CONFIG to $03
(NOSEC=0,NOCOP=0, ROMON=1 and EEON=1) and it
became $0B instead showing that the NOSEC bit did not
change. This was with a windowed HC711 part which is a few
years old. Do the newer OTP parts allow for the security to be set?
There is an engineering bulletin (EB378.PDF) showing how to set the
security bit using PCbug by issuing the command MS 103f 05. This
doesn't make any sense to me because bit 3 (NOSEC) is still one
in the above command. Can anyone illuminate my dark mind please?

I'm working on a project that uses the HC711E9 and I would like to
have some code protection if possible. I have located the Int vectors
in EEPROM partly because I can still reprogram the chip and of
course to give some code protection as the EEPROM gets erased
if a read attempt is made. Any help would be appreciated.

Regards

John Samperi

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RE: Security bit in HC711E9/ New HC11 member? - Redd, Emmett R - Nov 21 10:50:00 2002

John,

AFAIK, only the 68SEC711 variants are the secure chips. I don't know
how the security is implemented in hardware exactly, but I could
probably dig up the bootloader code. Security is implemented in the
bootloader and I believe the hardware forces only the single chip modes
(i.e. single chip and bootstrap). Expanded multiplexed and test modes
are blocked by hardware.

Let me know if you want more details.

Emmett Redd Ph.D. mailto:
Associate Professor (417)836-5221
Department of Physics, Astronomy, and Material Science
Southwest Missouri State University Fax (417)836-6226
901 SOUTH NATIONAL Dept (417)836-5131
SPRINGFIELD, MO 65804 USA

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Samperi [mailto:]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 4:33 PM
> To:
> Subject: [m68HC11] Security bit in HC711E9/ New HC11 member?
>
> G'day all
>
> Before I get to my question, I was looking at the Moto website for
> update information about the security bit and I came across a chip
> that I didn't know existed. It's a 68HC711EA9 with both mask ROM
> (12K), OTP Eprom (12K), the usual 512 bytes of EEPROM and
> a PLL clock generator.
> Does anyone know anything about this? Is it a "new " chip or is
> Motorola making a device that may replace some more of the
> HC11 family members? I do get a little paranoid I must confess!!
>
> Meanwhile, back at the ranch........The information I have shows
> the NOSEC bit forced to one, which would indicate that the part
> cannot be secured. I tried to program the CONFIG to $03
> (NOSEC=0,NOCOP=0, ROMON=1 and EEON=1) and it
> became $0B instead showing that the NOSEC bit did not
> change. This was with a windowed HC711 part which is a few
> years old. Do the newer OTP parts allow for the security to be set?
> There is an engineering bulletin (EB378.PDF) showing how to set the
> security bit using PCbug by issuing the command MS 103f 05. This
> doesn't make any sense to me because bit 3 (NOSEC) is still one
> in the above command. Can anyone illuminate my dark mind please?
>
> I'm working on a project that uses the HC711E9 and I would like to
> have some code protection if possible. I have located the Int vectors
> in EEPROM partly because I can still reprogram the chip and of
> course to give some code protection as the EEPROM gets erased
> if a read attempt is made. Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Regards
>
> John Samperi
>
> ******************************************************
> Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.
> 11 Brokenwood Place Baulkham Hills, NSW 2153 AUSTRALIA
> Tel. (02) 9674-6495 Fax (02) 9674-8745
> Email:
> Website http://ampertronics.com.au
> * Electronic Design * Technical Services * Contract Assembly
> ******************************************************
>
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