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Discussion Groups | MSP430 | Best tool for MSP430 Microcontroller

The purpose of this group is to foster exchange of information on the Texas Instruments MSP430 family of microcontrollers and related tools. Everyone welcome, all levels of familiarity/expertise.

Best tool for MSP430 Microcontroller - shrihari_u - Aug 4 7:14:54 2009

Hi All,

Can someone suggest me the best tool for msp430. and is there any open source IDE's for MSP430

Thanks and Regards
Hari

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Re: Best tool for MSP430 Microcontroller - old_cow_yellow - Aug 4 10:44:43 2009

CCE is open source. But that would not do you any good. And the "best tool"? Good question.

--- In m...@yahoogroups.com, "shrihari_u" wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Can someone suggest me the best tool for msp430. and is there any open source IDE's for MSP430
>
> Thanks and Regards
> Hari
>
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Re: Re: Best tool for MSP430 Microcontroller - Paul Curtis - Aug 4 10:49:04 2009

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:43:21 +0100, old_cow_yellow
wrote:

> CCE is open source. But that would not do you any good. And the "best
> tool"? Good question.

I hardly think you can call CCE open source software. Free in limited
form, but for sure not open source.

-- Paul.
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Re: Best tool for MSP430 Microcontroller - old_cow_yellow - Aug 4 11:29:37 2009

I had the impression that CCE is open source while TI MSP-CCE430 is not. That is why I said "it would not do you any good"

--- In m...@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Curtis" wrote:
>
> On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:43:21 +0100, old_cow_yellow
> wrote:
>
> > CCE is open source. But that would not do you any good. And the "best
> > tool"? Good question.
>
> I hardly think you can call CCE open source software. Free in limited
> form, but for sure not open source.
>
> -- Paul.
>
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Re: Re: Best tool for MSP430 Microcontroller - Paul Curtis - Aug 4 11:46:38 2009

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:28:41 +0100, old_cow_yellow
wrote:

> I had the impression that CCE is open source while TI MSP-CCE430 is not.

No, Eclipse is open source. Code Composer Essentials is a TI product that
comes in a free version and a paid-for version. No version of CCE is open
source. Where are the sources ofor the compiler that *any* version of CCE
uses, for instance? That's a TI compiler, it is not based on GCC. Even
so, I believe the plug-ins that TI provide are also closed source even for
the freebie CCE.

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Re: Best tool for MSP430 Microcontroller - Howard Hansen - Aug 4 11:50:07 2009

The following web page shows what compiler people like to use.
https://community.ti.com/forums/t/2610.aspx
Though not popular the MSP GNU compiler chain is open source.

Howard

shrihari_u wrote:
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Can someone suggest me the best tool for msp430. and is there any open
> source IDE's for MSP430
>
> Thanks and Regards
> Hari

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Re: Best tool for MSP430 Microcontroller - old_cow_yellow - Aug 4 12:16:19 2009

You are right. "CCE open source" has nothing to do with Code Composer Essentials.

http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Utilities/CCE.shtml

--- In m...@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Curtis" wrote:
>
> On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:28:41 +0100, old_cow_yellow
> wrote:
>
> > I had the impression that CCE is open source while TI MSP-CCE430 is not.
>
> No, Eclipse is open source. Code Composer Essentials is a TI product that
> comes in a free version and a paid-for version. No version of CCE is open
> source. Where are the sources ofor the compiler that *any* version of CCE
> uses, for instance? That's a TI compiler, it is not based on GCC. Even
> so, I believe the plug-ins that TI provide are also closed source even for
> the freebie CCE.
>
> -- Paul.
>
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Re: Best tool for MSP430 Microcontroller - Dan Bloomquist - Aug 4 12:33:43 2009

Howard Hansen wrote:
> The following web page shows what compiler people like to use.
> https://community.ti.com/forums/t/2610.aspx
> Though not popular the MSP GNU compiler chain is open source.
>

I use mspgcc. I like it fine. It seems to do a very good job of
optimizing size. It might be fun to benchmark this someday.

The only thing I found, what I think is messed up, was the logical shift
right. (some_int>>= 1;) It does an arithmetic shift right without
clearing the carry flag first.

Best, Dan.

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Re: Best tool for MSP430 Microcontroller - Paul Curtis - Aug 4 12:37:42 2009

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 17:31:37 +0100, Dan Bloomquist
wrote:

> Howard Hansen wrote:
>> The following web page shows what compiler people like to use.
>> https://community.ti.com/forums/t/2610.aspx
>> Though not popular the MSP GNU compiler chain is open source.
>> I use mspgcc. I like it fine. It seems to do a very good job of
> optimizing size. It might be fun to benchmark this someday.
>
> The only thing I found, what I think is messed up, was the logical shift
> right. (some_int>>= 1;) It does an arithmetic shift right without
> clearing the carry flag first.

Integers should use arithmetic right shifts, RRA. 32-bit ones use RRA
with RRC. Only unsigneds should clear the carry first then shift right
using RRC. MSP430X now has unsigned shifts! :-)

-- Paul.
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