I am looking for a copy of Butterfly BASIC, preferably including the source files. I already asked Paul (the author,) but he lost the files in a web site renovation. Paul released the compiler under the GPL and so does not mind copying. I asked him if he wants a copy if I can find it, and if he does, I will forward it to him.

Thanks,

Art





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hi Art....
i download this version one or two years ago..  i don't know if it is the=
last release but i hope it could help you...

bye

Alex






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--- In m..., "granz_consult" wrote:
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> I am looking for a copy of Butterfly BASIC, preferably including the source files. I already asked Paul (the author,) but he lost the files in a web site renovation. Paul released the compiler under the GPL and so does not mind copying. I asked him if he wants a copy if I can find it, and if he does, I will forward it to him.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Art
>

You can find the file at this link (Internet Archive Wayback Machine - basic.zip link on the right side)
http://web.archive.org/web/20110717225708/http://www.rowley.co.uk/msp430/basic.htm





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A copy can be found at the Internet Archive Wayback Machine (basic.zip link
on right side)
http://web.archive.org/web/20110717225708/http://www.rowley.co.uk/msp430/basic.zip

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Subject: [msp430] Butterfly BASIC Request

I am looking for a copy of Butterfly BASIC, preferably including the source
files. I already asked Paul (the author,) but he lost the files in a web
site renovation. Paul released the compiler under the GPL and so does not
mind copying. I asked him if he wants a copy if I can find it, and if he
does, I will forward it to him.

Thanks,

Art





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Many thanks to everyone who answered me.

Unfortunately, after looking over the interpreter, and talking with Paul (the author), this does not look like a go for the LaunchPad. Paul agrees with me that this will never fit on the stock LP. I will be looking into possibly upgrading the LaunchPad with a bigger chip, or maybe writing something like the BASIC Stamp IDE with a compiler (native or maybe a "P"-Code type with a tiny interpreter on-chip.) Either way, my desire is to create a simple-language system for beginners, like the BASIC Stamp. A $4.30 foundation for that system would go a long way towards a great, affordable, intro to micros for beginners.

Art

--- In m..., "Steve Mayfield" wrote:
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> A copy can be found at the Internet Archive Wayback Machine (basic.zip link
> on right side)
> http://web.archive.org/web/20110717225708/http://www.rowley.co.uk/msp430/basic.zip
>





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Hello, someone mentioned that the new LPs were being shipped with MSP430G2553 which is the biggest G series processor i think, in the other hand that is $2 on digikey, has 16K flash and more RAM, how much bigger do you need it?

regards

--- In m..., "granz_consult" wrote:
>
> Many thanks to everyone who answered me.
>
> Unfortunately, after looking over the interpreter, and talking with Paul (the author), this does not look like a go for the LaunchPad. Paul agrees with me that this will never fit on the stock LP. I will be looking into possibly upgrading the LaunchPad with a bigger chip, or maybe writing something like the BASIC Stamp IDE with a compiler (native or maybe a "P"-Code type with a tiny interpreter on-chip.) Either way, my desire is to create a simple-language system for beginners, like the BASIC Stamp. A $4.30 foundation for that system would go a long way towards a great, affordable, intro to micros for beginners.
>
> Art
>
> --- In m..., "Steve Mayfield" wrote:
> >
> > A copy can be found at the Internet Archive Wayback Machine (basic.zip link
> > on right side)
> > http://web.archive.org/web/20110717225708/http://www.rowley.co.uk/msp430/basic.zip
>





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Your best bet might be to look at the Arduino framework. A couple of
people (including myself) have "started" projects to port the arduino
libraries and/or environment to MSP430, and it's based on gcc (which will
compile code for MSP430) and recent enhancements ("ChipKit") have added the
base from which to support multiple architectures from the IDE. (The
trouble is that even with all that "help", it's still a very large
project. Perhaps doing a basic-stamp style interpreter from scratch is
easier.)






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Carlos,

I had not noticed that; all of my LaunchPads are v1.4 and contain the
'2211 and '2231 chips. With the 2553's 16K of Flash and 512 bytes of
RAM, that may do the job. I will look into it some more.

My real complaint with the intro material that TI provides is that they
assume that they are talking to engineers with years of experience.
Look at the first thing that the workshop
(http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Getting_Started_with_the_MSP430\
_LaunchPad_Workshop) has you compile is the demo that is pre-loaded on
the chip. Yes, it is a pretty simple program for professionals, but
think back to when you first tried to write a program of any kind. A
"Hello World" is a simple program, who's only real purpose is to show
the new programmer that the compiler/interpreter really does work, and
that he (or she) can actually program in that language. A beginner
needs to start with a single command (besides the one header to define
the chip and the main() ) to turn the LED on.

Instead TI puts a bit-banged serial routine, timers, PWM, A/D
(temperature sensing) and other stuff in their intro. I'm not trying to
criticize TI, or their materials, but as a person who is trying to get
totally noobs into the field, I want to start simpler.

What about something like:

include chip_name.h

define REDLED BIT0

main(
REDLED == 1; // Turn red LED on
)
This is something that ANYONE can learn. I have explained
microcontroller programming at this level to liberal arts (no technical
training at all) people with no real troubles.

Anyway, this is what I am trying for: "Helping to Build a Better
Engineer." (My tag line)

Art
--- In m..., "carlos" wrote:
>
> Hello, someone mentioned that the new LPs were being shipped with
MSP430G2553 which is the biggest G series processor i think, in the
other hand that is $2 on digikey, has 16K flash and more RAM, how much
bigger do you need it?
>
> regards
>
> --- In m..., "granz_consult" wrote:
> >
> > Many thanks to everyone who answered me.







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