We are highschool students working on building a Mark III Sumo-Bot for
an advanced science class. We have never done programming or have any
experience in building robots. We have purchased the kit - Mark III
Complete Kit (OOPic Version) and are ready to get started. However, we
aren't sure on how to go abouts beginning. We have printed out the Mark
III User's Guide as recommended by a teacher. We're not familiar with
this vocabulary and were wondering if anyone could help us out.

Thanks in advance!

Tom Ates
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Knowing that there is a book is helpful if you can find one. It is
out of print and the used copy on www.alibris.com sells for $291.09 -
ABSOLUTELY INSANE!

So, get the sample programs from the Mark III group, study them, think
about what they do and then ask questions. The one you want is
msmarkiii.osc by Pete Skeggs.

It is regrettable that the V5 documentation has gone away because it
will match the samples better than V6. OTOH, V6 seems to work pretty
well with the B.2.2+ chip AFAICT.

Read all the stuff at www.oopic.com

Post questions here as our moderator (Dennis Clark) wrote the book and
there are some knowledgeable people haunting this group.

Richard

--- In o...@yahoogroups.com, Matt Elias wrote:
>
> I recommend a book by Dennis Clark titled "Programming and Customizing
> the OOPic Microcontroller". It explains a lot of the hidden quirks of
> the OOPic that do not show up in the online documentation, otherwise
the
> online manual (www.oopic.com) is an excellent source as well. Those two
> sources and this forum have been my main support, and then you need to
> start doing some basic projects to get a feel for the programming and
> interfacing techniques. Structure the test programs around what you
will
> actually want to implement on your robot.
>
> cheers,
> Matt
>
> tom.ates wrote:
> >
> > We are highschool students working on building a Mark III Sumo-Bot for
> > an advanced science class. We have never done programming or have any
> > experience in building robots. We have purchased the kit - Mark III
> > Complete Kit (OOPic Version) and are ready to get started. However, we
> > aren't sure on how to go abouts beginning. We have printed out the
Mark
> > III User's Guide as recommended by a teacher. We're not familiar with
> > this vocabulary and were wondering if anyone could help us out.
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> > Tom Ates
> >
>
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I recommend a book by Dennis Clark titled "Programming and Customizing
the OOPic Microcontroller". It explains a lot of the hidden quirks of
the OOPic that do not show up in the online documentation, otherwise the
online manual (www.oopic.com) is an excellent source as well. Those two
sources and this forum have been my main support, and then you need to
start doing some basic projects to get a feel for the programming and
interfacing techniques. Structure the test programs around what you will
actually want to implement on your robot.

cheers,
Matt

tom.ates wrote:
>
> We are highschool students working on building a Mark III Sumo-Bot for
> an advanced science class. We have never done programming or have any
> experience in building robots. We have purchased the kit - Mark III
> Complete Kit (OOPic Version) and are ready to get started. However, we
> aren't sure on how to go abouts beginning. We have printed out the Mark
> III User's Guide as recommended by a teacher. We're not familiar with
> this vocabulary and were wondering if anyone could help us out.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Tom Ates
>
>

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Wow, I should vacuum seal mine as a collector's item! Even better would
to sell it to someone who could make use of it, I don't use mine much
anymore. Try Amazon.com, about $100.

matt

rtstofer wrote:
> Knowing that there is a book is helpful if you can find one. It is
> out of print and the used copy on www.alibris.com sells for $291.09 -
> ABSOLUTELY INSANE!
>
> So, get the sample programs from the Mark III group, study them, think
> about what they do and then ask questions. The one you want is
> msmarkiii.osc by Pete Skeggs.
>
> It is regrettable that the V5 documentation has gone away because it
> will match the samples better than V6. OTOH, V6 seems to work pretty
> well with the B.2.2+ chip AFAICT.
>
> Read all the stuff at www.oopic.com
>
> Post questions here as our moderator (Dennis Clark) wrote the book and
> there are some knowledgeable people haunting this group.
>
> Richard
>
> --- In o...@yahoogroups.com , Matt
> Elias wrote:
> >
> > I recommend a book by Dennis Clark titled "Programming and Customizing
> > the OOPic Microcontroller". It explains a lot of the hidden quirks of
> > the OOPic that do not show up in the online documentation, otherwise
> the
> > online manual (www.oopic.com) is an excellent source as well. Those two
> > sources and this forum have been my main support, and then you need to
> > start doing some basic projects to get a feel for the programming and
> > interfacing techniques. Structure the test programs around what you
> will
> > actually want to implement on your robot.
> >
> > cheers,
> > Matt
> >
> > tom.ates wrote:
> > >
> > > We are highschool students working on building a Mark III Sumo-Bot for
> > > an advanced science class. We have never done programming or have any
> > > experience in building robots. We have purchased the kit - Mark III
> > > Complete Kit (OOPic Version) and are ready to get started. However, we
> > > aren't sure on how to go abouts beginning. We have printed out the
> Mark
> > > III User's Guide as recommended by a teacher. We're not familiar with
> > > this vocabulary and were wondering if anyone could help us out.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance!
> > >
> > > Tom Ates
> > >
> > >
> >

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I'm working on getting the rights to the PDF version of this book. M-H doesn't want to
do a second edition, so this is all that I'm going to get. Legal is being a bit slow with
this but I have assurances from the publisher that they will let go of the Copyright to me
for it.

DLC

--- In o...@yahoogroups.com, Matt Elias wrote:
>
> Wow, I should vacuum seal mine as a collector's item! Even better would
> to sell it to someone who could make use of it, I don't use mine much
> anymore. Try Amazon.com, about $100.
>
> matt
>
> rtstofer wrote:
> >
> >
> > Knowing that there is a book is helpful if you can find one. It is
> > out of print and the used copy on www.alibris.com sells for $291.09 -
> > ABSOLUTELY INSANE!
> >
> > So, get the sample programs from the Mark III group, study them, think
> > about what they do and then ask questions. The one you want is
> > msmarkiii.osc by Pete Skeggs.
> >
> > It is regrettable that the V5 documentation has gone away because it
> > will match the samples better than V6. OTOH, V6 seems to work pretty
> > well with the B.2.2+ chip AFAICT.
> >
> > Read all the stuff at www.oopic.com
> >
> > Post questions here as our moderator (Dennis Clark) wrote the book and
> > there are some knowledgeable people haunting this group.
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > --- In o...@yahoogroups.com , Matt
> > Elias wrote:
> > >
> > > I recommend a book by Dennis Clark titled "Programming and Customizing
> > > the OOPic Microcontroller". It explains a lot of the hidden quirks of
> > > the OOPic that do not show up in the online documentation, otherwise
> > the
> > > online manual (www.oopic.com) is an excellent source as well. Those two
> > > sources and this forum have been my main support, and then you need to
> > > start doing some basic projects to get a feel for the programming and
> > > interfacing techniques. Structure the test programs around what you
> > will
> > > actually want to implement on your robot.
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > > Matt
> > >
> > > tom.ates wrote:
> > > >
> > > > We are highschool students working on building a Mark III Sumo-Bot for
> > > > an advanced science class. We have never done programming or have any
> > > > experience in building robots. We have purchased the kit - Mark III
> > > > Complete Kit (OOPic Version) and are ready to get started. However, we
> > > > aren't sure on how to go abouts beginning. We have printed out the
> > Mark
> > > > III User's Guide as recommended by a teacher. We're not familiar with
> > > > this vocabulary and were wondering if anyone could help us out.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance!
> > > >
> > > > Tom Ates
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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