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A discussion group for the PICMicro microcontroller. Also called the Microchip PIC, this list is dedicated to the use and abuse of this fine, simple, microcontroller. Close to topic posts are welcome, ie. general electronics.
An introduction & Many Questions - Ken Stuempges - Nov 29 14:16:57 2007
Howdy:
I'm what you would call an O.T.H.E. (Over-The-Hill_Engineer).
Have not done any Electrical Engineering since the early to mid 80's,
but now have the bug to resume. I plan on some minor PIC projects,
some for fun, and one to sell, small-time. My programming background
was strictly Assembly, (6800 - 6809 - 8086 - 8088), as well as
hardware. As far as programming goes, I plan on going strictly
Assembly again. I'll probably start with the 16F84, with the intent
to grow. In addition, I have an XP computer, so will need something
compatible with USB.
After surfing here for a while, I'm still confused about what
programmer/development/debugger to get. I suppose I could go direct
to Microchip - but am trying to save a few $$.
There are several on the web and ebay, in particular. Is anyone
familiar or used anything from the following ebay stores:
MDflystore ; Jeffs-store ; or the Chi-Com outfit from Hong Kong
"VirtualVillage-USA" or the Bulgarians, "Olimex" ?
There are even some that appear to be re-selling authentic Microchip
boards. I'm sure there will be a multitude of opinions, but look
forward to hearing them.
Ken
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RE: An introduction & Many Questions - wouter van ooijen - Dec 13 15:28:12 2007
> After surfing here for a while, I'm still confused about
> what programmer/development/debugger to get.
> I suppose I could go direct
> to Microchip - but am trying to save a few $$.
what do you want, a programmer, a debugger, or a development board?
> or the Bulgarians, "Olimex" ?
I buy lots of stuff from them, and I resell some of their products.
If you are referring to their tiny-ICD2: I suggest that you consider a
pickit2 instead.
Wouter van Ooijen
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> what programmer/development/debugger to get.
> I suppose I could go direct
> to Microchip - but am trying to save a few $$.
what do you want, a programmer, a debugger, or a development board?
> or the Bulgarians, "Olimex" ?
I buy lots of stuff from them, and I resell some of their products.
If you are referring to their tiny-ICD2: I suggest that you consider a
pickit2 instead.
Wouter van Ooijen
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Re: An introduction & Many Questions - rint...@mailaka.net - Dec 13 15:28:59 2007
First, buy the Pickit2 from Microchip ($50.), from Allied Electronics
or Mouser. This comes with a programmer, ICD and a development board
with a 16F887. Download MPLAB from Microchip , its free. Most
development today is done with "C" or Basic. The compilers generate
assembly code which is then assembled, but you get to look at it
which will teach you a great deal. For compilers try BoostC which
allows you to create 2K word programs. The full comiler is $70. For
Basic try GCBASIC which is open source or Oshonsoft Pic_Sim_Ide which
includes a simulator.
You can download documents, Pickit2, 16F887, etc, from the Micrpchip
site.
Dick
---- Original Message ----
From: l...@bulldoghome.com
To: p...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [piclist] An introduction & Many Questions
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:10:36 -0000
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ken Stuempges"
>To:
>Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 1:26 AM
>Subject: [piclist] An introduction & Many Questions
>> Howdy:
>> I'm what you would call an O.T.H.E. (Over-The-Hill_Engineer).
>> Have not done any Electrical Engineering since the early to mid
>80's,
>> but now have the bug to resume. I plan on some minor PIC projects,
>> some for fun, and one to sell, small-time. My programming
>background
>> was strictly Assembly, (6800 - 6809 - 8086 - 8088), as well as
>> hardware. As far as programming goes, I plan on going strictly
>> Assembly again. I'll probably start with the 16F84, with the
>intent
>> to grow. In addition, I have an XP computer, so will need
>something
>> compatible with USB.
>>
>> After surfing here for a while, I'm still confused about what
>> programmer/development/debugger to get. I suppose I could go
>direct
>> to Microchip - but am trying to save a few $$.
>>
>> There are several on the web and ebay, in particular. Is anyone
>> familiar or used anything from the following ebay stores:
>>
>> MDflystore ; Jeffs-store ; or the Chi-Com outfit from Hong Kong
>> "VirtualVillage-USA" or the Bulgarians, "Olimex" ?
>
>Don't bother with the 16F84, it's been obsolete for some years. Use
>the
>16F88.
>
>Oliomex has the advantage that they are supported on the Sparkfun
>Electronics forum (they sell Olimex boards).
>
>The Microchip PICkit 2 is very good value.
>
>Leon
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or Mouser. This comes with a programmer, ICD and a development board
with a 16F887. Download MPLAB from Microchip , its free. Most
development today is done with "C" or Basic. The compilers generate
assembly code which is then assembled, but you get to look at it
which will teach you a great deal. For compilers try BoostC which
allows you to create 2K word programs. The full comiler is $70. For
Basic try GCBASIC which is open source or Oshonsoft Pic_Sim_Ide which
includes a simulator.
You can download documents, Pickit2, 16F887, etc, from the Micrpchip
site.
Dick
---- Original Message ----
From: l...@bulldoghome.com
To: p...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [piclist] An introduction & Many Questions
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:10:36 -0000
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ken Stuempges"
>To:
>Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 1:26 AM
>Subject: [piclist] An introduction & Many Questions
>> Howdy:
>> I'm what you would call an O.T.H.E. (Over-The-Hill_Engineer).
>> Have not done any Electrical Engineering since the early to mid
>80's,
>> but now have the bug to resume. I plan on some minor PIC projects,
>> some for fun, and one to sell, small-time. My programming
>background
>> was strictly Assembly, (6800 - 6809 - 8086 - 8088), as well as
>> hardware. As far as programming goes, I plan on going strictly
>> Assembly again. I'll probably start with the 16F84, with the
>intent
>> to grow. In addition, I have an XP computer, so will need
>something
>> compatible with USB.
>>
>> After surfing here for a while, I'm still confused about what
>> programmer/development/debugger to get. I suppose I could go
>direct
>> to Microchip - but am trying to save a few $$.
>>
>> There are several on the web and ebay, in particular. Is anyone
>> familiar or used anything from the following ebay stores:
>>
>> MDflystore ; Jeffs-store ; or the Chi-Com outfit from Hong Kong
>> "VirtualVillage-USA" or the Bulgarians, "Olimex" ?
>
>Don't bother with the 16F84, it's been obsolete for some years. Use
>the
>16F88.
>
>Oliomex has the advantage that they are supported on the Sparkfun
>Electronics forum (they sell Olimex boards).
>
>The Microchip PICkit 2 is very good value.
>
>Leon
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Re: An introduction & Many Questions - np np - Dec 13 15:56:46 2007
As a PIC engineer since 1984 I would seriously recommend prgramming kit from Microchip.
I have heard of so many problems from other manufacturers.
The Microchip gear is also integrated into MPLAB.
----- Original Message ----
From: Leon Heller
To: p...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 28 November, 2007 3:10:36 PM
Subject: Re: [piclist] An introduction & Many Questions
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Stuempges"
To:
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 1:26 AM
Subject: [piclist] An introduction & Many Questions
> Howdy:
> I'm what you would call an O.T.H.E. (Over-The-Hill_ Engineer) .
> Have not done any Electrical Engineering since the early to mid 80's,
> but now have the bug to resume. I plan on some minor PIC projects,
> some for fun, and one to sell, small-time. My programming background
> was strictly Assembly, (6800 - 6809 - 8086 - 8088), as well as
> hardware. As far as programming goes, I plan on going strictly
> Assembly again. I'll probably start with the 16F84, with the intent
> to grow. In addition, I have an XP computer, so will need something
> compatible with USB.
>
> After surfing here for a while, I'm still confused about what
> programmer/developm ent/debugger to get. I suppose I could go direct
> to Microchip - but am trying to save a few $$.
>
> There are several on the web and ebay, in particular. Is anyone
> familiar or used anything from the following ebay stores:
>
> MDflystore ; Jeffs-store ; or the Chi-Com outfit from Hong Kong
> "VirtualVillage- USA" or the Bulgarians, "Olimex" ?
Don't bother with the 16F84, it's been obsolete for some years. Use the
16F88.
Oliomex has the advantage that they are supported on the Sparkfun
Electronics forum (they sell Olimex boards).
The Microchip PICkit 2 is very good value.
Leon
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I have heard of so many problems from other manufacturers.
The Microchip gear is also integrated into MPLAB.
----- Original Message ----
From: Leon Heller
To: p...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 28 November, 2007 3:10:36 PM
Subject: Re: [piclist] An introduction & Many Questions
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Stuempges"
To:
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 1:26 AM
Subject: [piclist] An introduction & Many Questions
> Howdy:
> I'm what you would call an O.T.H.E. (Over-The-Hill_ Engineer) .
> Have not done any Electrical Engineering since the early to mid 80's,
> but now have the bug to resume. I plan on some minor PIC projects,
> some for fun, and one to sell, small-time. My programming background
> was strictly Assembly, (6800 - 6809 - 8086 - 8088), as well as
> hardware. As far as programming goes, I plan on going strictly
> Assembly again. I'll probably start with the 16F84, with the intent
> to grow. In addition, I have an XP computer, so will need something
> compatible with USB.
>
> After surfing here for a while, I'm still confused about what
> programmer/developm ent/debugger to get. I suppose I could go direct
> to Microchip - but am trying to save a few $$.
>
> There are several on the web and ebay, in particular. Is anyone
> familiar or used anything from the following ebay stores:
>
> MDflystore ; Jeffs-store ; or the Chi-Com outfit from Hong Kong
> "VirtualVillage- USA" or the Bulgarians, "Olimex" ?
Don't bother with the 16F84, it's been obsolete for some years. Use the
16F88.
Oliomex has the advantage that they are supported on the Sparkfun
Electronics forum (they sell Olimex boards).
The Microchip PICkit 2 is very good value.
Leon
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Re: An introduction & Many Questions - jlcava - Dec 13 22:43:03 2007
Hola León.
Pero entonces no tenés 3 unidades en negro.
Es lo que había preguntado..............
Me indicaste que si.
No quiero esperar. Para eso preguntaba.
Saludos
Jose Luis Cavasassi
Bolivia 1340
Capital Federal, Buenos Aires
Argentina
j...@arnet.com.ar
www.cavadevices.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Leon Heller
To: p...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: [piclist] An introduction & Many Questions
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Stuempges"
To:
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 1:26 AM
Subject: [piclist] An introduction & Many Questions
> Howdy:
> I'm what you would call an O.T.H.E. (Over-The-Hill_Engineer).
> Have not done any Electrical Engineering since the early to mid 80's,
> but now have the bug to resume. I plan on some minor PIC projects,
> some for fun, and one to sell, small-time. My programming background
> was strictly Assembly, (6800 - 6809 - 8086 - 8088), as well as
> hardware. As far as programming goes, I plan on going strictly
> Assembly again. I'll probably start with the 16F84, with the intent
> to grow. In addition, I have an XP computer, so will need something
> compatible with USB.
>
> After surfing here for a while, I'm still confused about what
> programmer/development/debugger to get. I suppose I could go direct
> to Microchip - but am trying to save a few $$.
>
> There are several on the web and ebay, in particular. Is anyone
> familiar or used anything from the following ebay stores:
>
> MDflystore ; Jeffs-store ; or the Chi-Com outfit from Hong Kong
> "VirtualVillage-USA" or the Bulgarians, "Olimex" ?
Don't bother with the 16F84, it's been obsolete for some years. Use the
16F88.
Oliomex has the advantage that they are supported on the Sparkfun
Electronics forum (they sell Olimex boards).
The Microchip PICkit 2 is very good value.
Leon
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Pero entonces no tenés 3 unidades en negro.
Es lo que había preguntado..............
Me indicaste que si.
No quiero esperar. Para eso preguntaba.
Saludos
Jose Luis Cavasassi
Bolivia 1340
Capital Federal, Buenos Aires
Argentina
j...@arnet.com.ar
www.cavadevices.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Leon Heller
To: p...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: [piclist] An introduction & Many Questions
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Stuempges"
To:
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 1:26 AM
Subject: [piclist] An introduction & Many Questions
> Howdy:
> I'm what you would call an O.T.H.E. (Over-The-Hill_Engineer).
> Have not done any Electrical Engineering since the early to mid 80's,
> but now have the bug to resume. I plan on some minor PIC projects,
> some for fun, and one to sell, small-time. My programming background
> was strictly Assembly, (6800 - 6809 - 8086 - 8088), as well as
> hardware. As far as programming goes, I plan on going strictly
> Assembly again. I'll probably start with the 16F84, with the intent
> to grow. In addition, I have an XP computer, so will need something
> compatible with USB.
>
> After surfing here for a while, I'm still confused about what
> programmer/development/debugger to get. I suppose I could go direct
> to Microchip - but am trying to save a few $$.
>
> There are several on the web and ebay, in particular. Is anyone
> familiar or used anything from the following ebay stores:
>
> MDflystore ; Jeffs-store ; or the Chi-Com outfit from Hong Kong
> "VirtualVillage-USA" or the Bulgarians, "Olimex" ?
Don't bother with the 16F84, it's been obsolete for some years. Use the
16F88.
Oliomex has the advantage that they are supported on the Sparkfun
Electronics forum (they sell Olimex boards).
The Microchip PICkit 2 is very good value.
Leon
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Re: An introduction & Many Questions - Ken Stuempges - Jan 11 18:07:25 2008
Thanks everyone.
I purchased a PicKit2 from Microchip a while back, and am completly
satisfied with it. Presently working on interfacing LCD displays,
with the end result being a small tachometer.
Still finding my way around MPLAB, but making progress, with lots of
help from this group and others.
Thanks again
Ken
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I purchased a PicKit2 from Microchip a while back, and am completly
satisfied with it. Presently working on interfacing LCD displays,
with the end result being a small tachometer.
Still finding my way around MPLAB, but making progress, with lots of
help from this group and others.
Thanks again
Ken
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