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how many pins for programming ? - Dave Mucha - Mar 13 12:26:00 2004


Hi all,

I'm trying to lay out an SOIC to DIP adapter board so I can programm
28 pin PICs.

By habit, I started trying to connect all 28 pins, but quickly
realized that the traces will be all over the place.

Using a WARP13 programmer on the 28 pin PICs it seems that I only
need programming, not debugging and therfore only need a few traces.

I did look over Wouters pages on the Wisp628
http://www.voti.nl/wisp628/
and the chart about halfway down lists the major pin connectons.

Do I have to concern myself with any of the other pins ?
Programmers like the JDR connect a lot of pins so it baffles me as to
what is absolutly required, what is needed and what is just there for
no real reason.

Can anybody offer some help ?

Dave






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Re: how many pins for programming ? - upand_at_them - Mar 13 16:03:00 2004

The Wisp has additional features.

The bare minimum you need for programming is 4 lines: MCLR, Vdd, and
the DATA and CLOCK lines.

Mike --- In , "Dave Mucha" <davemucha@j...> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm trying to lay out an SOIC to DIP adapter board so I can
programm
> 28 pin PICs.
>
> By habit, I started trying to connect all 28 pins, but quickly
> realized that the traces will be all over the place.
>
> Using a WARP13 programmer on the 28 pin PICs it seems that I only
> need programming, not debugging and therfore only need a few traces.
>
> I did look over Wouters pages on the Wisp628
> http://www.voti.nl/wisp628/
> and the chart about halfway down lists the major pin connectons.
>
> Do I have to concern myself with any of the other pins ?
> Programmers like the JDR connect a lot of pins so it baffles me as
to
> what is absolutly required, what is needed and what is just there
for
> no real reason.
>
> Can anybody offer some help ?
>
> Dave





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RE: Re: how many pins for programming ? - Wouter van Ooijen - Mar 13 18:33:00 2004

> The bare minimum you need for programming is 4 lines: MCLR, Vdd, and
> the DATA and CLOCK lines.

On chips that have LVP it is adviseable (required by the specs) to tie
the LVP-enable pin low. On chips that can configure /MCLR as input the
official enter-programming sequence is Vss-before-Vpp, so Vss is also
needed.

Wouter van Ooijen

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