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Discussion Groups | Piclist | Wireless Networking with 16f877?

A discussion group for the PICMicro microcontroller. Also called the Microchip PIC, this list is dedicated to the use and abuse of this fine, simple, microcontroller. Close to topic posts are welcome, ie. general electronics.

Wireless Networking with 16f877? - Kevin Van Winkle - Jun 23 10:21:00 2004


I thought I'd put this query out there in the hopes of not having to
reinvent the wheel.

I'd like to use a 16f877 (Or similar) to talk via 802.11b/g.

I know of the 8/16 bits kludges of regular NICS to this chip, but was
thinking of wireless if anyonw had done it. I'm considering all
possibilities (USB NIC, PCCARD(Cardbus/pcmcia) or PCI) All have issues.

The USB would be the simplist interface, but I fear it is software intensive
and would require quite a bit of backwards engineering to get it to talk in
this application. Much like trying to deal with a "Software" modem I would
think.

The PCCARD style is attractive, but I don't know much about it, and creating
a bus for it or a PCI card seems kind of tough given the limitations of a
PIC micro.

I did see DIGI had some modules, but at $108 each, maybe out of range for a
project that could have commercial implications.

So, anyone have PICs making a living on their wireless networks without some
intermediate interface really doing the work? (IE, pic talks to pc that
talks via 802.11)

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Re: Wireless Networking with 16f877? - Don Hackler - Jun 23 13:26:00 2004

How about hanging an ethernet interface on the PIC, and then using a
standard WiFi interface?

Kevin Van Winkle wrote:

>I thought I'd put this query out there in the hopes of not having to
>reinvent the wheel.
>
>I'd like to use a 16f877 (Or similar) to talk via 802.11b/g.
>
>I know of the 8/16 bits kludges of regular NICS to this chip, but was
>thinking of wireless if anyonw had done it. I'm considering all
>possibilities (USB NIC, PCCARD(Cardbus/pcmcia) or PCI) All have issues.
>
>The USB would be the simplist interface, but I fear it is software intensive
>and would require quite a bit of backwards engineering to get it to talk in
>this application. Much like trying to deal with a "Software" modem I would
>think.
>
>The PCCARD style is attractive, but I don't know much about it, and creating
>a bus for it or a PCI card seems kind of tough given the limitations of a
>PIC micro.
>
>I did see DIGI had some modules, but at $108 each, maybe out of range for a
>project that could have commercial implications.
>
>So, anyone have PICs making a living on their wireless networks without some
>intermediate interface really doing the work? (IE, pic talks to pc that
>talks via 802.11)
>
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RE: Wireless Networking with 16f877? - Scott Lingerfelt - Jun 23 17:17:00 2004


You may want to look at this!
http://www.lantronix.com/products/eds/wiport/ Serial interface to a 802.11b
tranceiver. I do not know of the price. They also have a dev. kit

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Hackler [mailto:]
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 2:26 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [piclist] Wireless Networking with 16f877? How about hanging an ethernet interface on the PIC, and then using a
standard WiFi interface?

Kevin Van Winkle wrote:

>I thought I'd put this query out there in the hopes of not having to
>reinvent the wheel.
>
>I'd like to use a 16f877 (Or similar) to talk via 802.11b/g.
>
>I know of the 8/16 bits kludges of regular NICS to this chip, but was
>thinking of wireless if anyonw had done it. I'm considering all
>possibilities (USB NIC, PCCARD(Cardbus/pcmcia) or PCI) All have issues.
>
>The USB would be the simplist interface, but I fear it is software
intensive
>and would require quite a bit of backwards engineering to get it to talk in
>this application. Much like trying to deal with a "Software" modem I would
>think.
>
>The PCCARD style is attractive, but I don't know much about it, and
creating
>a bus for it or a PCI card seems kind of tough given the limitations of a
>PIC micro.
>
>I did see DIGI had some modules, but at $108 each, maybe out of range for a
>project that could have commercial implications.
>
>So, anyone have PICs making a living on their wireless networks without
some
>intermediate interface really doing the work? (IE, pic talks to pc that
>talks via 802.11)
>
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Re: Wireless Networking with 16f877? - Michael Puchol - Jun 23 19:47:00 2004

Price from my local distributor some 110 Euro, about $135. Pretty expensive
IMHO considering you can buy WiFi cards for $20 or less...agreed these come
with twists, but boy, they make you pay for them. I think that their Xport
is good value for money, however.

Regards,

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Lingerfelt" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:17 AM
Subject: RE: [piclist] Wireless Networking with 16f877? >
> You may want to look at this!
> http://www.lantronix.com/products/eds/wiport/ Serial interface to a
802.11b
> tranceiver. I do not know of the price. They also have a dev. kit
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Hackler [mailto:]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 2:26 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [piclist] Wireless Networking with 16f877? > How about hanging an ethernet interface on the PIC, and then using a
> standard WiFi interface?
>
> Kevin Van Winkle wrote:
>
> >I thought I'd put this query out there in the hopes of not having to
> >reinvent the wheel.
> >
> >I'd like to use a 16f877 (Or similar) to talk via 802.11b/g.
> >
> >I know of the 8/16 bits kludges of regular NICS to this chip, but was
> >thinking of wireless if anyonw had done it. I'm considering all
> >possibilities (USB NIC, PCCARD(Cardbus/pcmcia) or PCI) All have issues.
> >
> >The USB would be the simplist interface, but I fear it is software
> intensive
> >and would require quite a bit of backwards engineering to get it to talk
in
> >this application. Much like trying to deal with a "Software" modem I
would
> >think.
> >
> >The PCCARD style is attractive, but I don't know much about it, and
> creating
> >a bus for it or a PCI card seems kind of tough given the limitations of a
> >PIC micro.
> >
> >I did see DIGI had some modules, but at $108 each, maybe out of range for
a
> >project that could have commercial implications.
> >
> >So, anyone have PICs making a living on their wireless networks without
> some
> >intermediate interface really doing the work? (IE, pic talks to pc that
> >talks via 802.11)
> >
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