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PIC18F458-I/P & max frequency( is it not 40mhz??) - AMIT KAPOOR - Aug 29 21:20:00 2004

Hi ,
help me out!
actually last week i got pic18f458-I/P and pic18lf458-I/P as sample.
                        1.Now when i test them for 4 mhz ,everything works fine ...but when i test them for 16 or 24 mhz nothing goes fine ...they work unexpectedly...why so? according to data sheet max frequency is 40mhz...is there any limitation as these chips are sample....i dont think so ....oscillator is working fine as i tested with some other chips......
2.what is the difference between PIC18f458-I/P and PIC18lf458-I/P ( "l" is there in this chip)......something related to frequency?
         Please do reply.............i am confused where i am going wrong...
thanx
Amit


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Amit Kapoor
Robot Research Engineer
Robot R&D Team
DSME
South Korea
 
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Re: PIC18F458-I/P & max frequency( is it not 40mhz??) - Nigel Symes - Aug 29 22:44:00 2004

just out of interest what does the i/p mean?
 
(Yes I am a newbie....)
 
Nigel
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Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 1:54 PM
Subject: RE: [piclist] PIC18F458-I/P & max frequency( is it not 40mhz??)

Amit,
 
   Are you configuring the pic for the right freq? You have to check the configuration word of the chip to be in the right kind of oscillator frequency. Check the datasheet of the chip for info on the conf word.
 
  About the "L" on the chip it means that it works for lower voltages than normal. Once again check the datasheet. Good luck.
 
Regards,
 
*Carlos Marcano*
-Guri, Venezuela-
-----Mensaje original-----
De: AMIT KAPOOR [mailto:k...@yahoo.com]
Enviado el: Domingo, 29 de Agosto de 2004 22:20
Para: p...@yahoogroups.com
Asunto: [piclist] PIC18F458-I/P & max frequency( is it not 40mhz??)

Hi ,
help me out!
actually last week i got pic18f458-I/P and pic18lf458-I/P as sample.
                        1.Now when i test them for 4 mhz ,everything works fine ...but when i test them for 16 or 24 mhz nothing goes fine ...they work unexpectedly...why so? according to data sheet max frequency is 40mhz...is there any limitation as these chips are sample....i dont think so ....oscillator is working fine as i tested with some other chips......
2.what is the difference between PIC18f458-I/P and PIC18lf458-I/P ( "l" is there in this chip)......something related to frequency?
         Please do reply.............i am confused where i am going wrong...
thanx
Amit


Regards
Amit Kapoor
Robot Research Engineer
Robot R&D Team
DSME
South Korea
 
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RE: PIC18F458-I/P & max frequency( is it not 40mhz??) - Carlos Marcano - Aug 29 22:54:00 2004

Amit,
 
   Are you configuring the pic for the right freq? You have to check the configuration word of the chip to be in the right kind of oscillator frequency. Check the datasheet of the chip for info on the conf word.
 
  About the "L" on the chip it means that it works for lower voltages than normal. Once again check the datasheet. Good luck.
 
Regards,
 
*Carlos Marcano*
-Guri, Venezuela-
-----Mensaje original-----
De: AMIT KAPOOR [mailto:k...@yahoo.com]
Enviado el: Domingo, 29 de Agosto de 2004 22:20
Para: p...@yahoogroups.com
Asunto: [piclist] PIC18F458-I/P & max frequency( is it not 40mhz??)

Hi ,
help me out!
actually last week i got pic18f458-I/P and pic18lf458-I/P as sample.
                        1.Now when i test them for 4 mhz ,everything works fine ...but when i test them for 16 or 24 mhz nothing goes fine ...they work unexpectedly...why so? according to data sheet max frequency is 40mhz...is there any limitation as these chips are sample....i dont think so ....oscillator is working fine as i tested with some other chips......
2.what is the difference between PIC18f458-I/P and PIC18lf458-I/P ( "l" is there in this chip)......something related to frequency?
         Please do reply.............i am confused where i am going wrong...
thanx
Amit


Regards
Amit Kapoor
Robot Research Engineer
Robot R&D Team
DSME
South Korea
 
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RE: PIC18F458-I/P & max frequency( is it not 40mhz??) - martin de lange - Aug 29 23:05:00 2004

The obvious question that comes to mind is did you set the oscillator config to the HS type as opposed to XT.  Also make sure the PLL is off if you do not want to increment the frequency.  Check for correct Xtal cap values.  Sometimes engineering samples have amaximum operating frequency so check for the absence of the marking ES

 


From: AMIT KAPOOR [mailto:k...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, 30 August 2004 14:20
To: p...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [piclist] PIC18F458-I/P & max frequency( is it not 40mhz??)

 

Hi ,
help me out!
actually last week i got pic18f458-I/P and pic18lf458-I/P as sample.
                        1.Now when i test them for 4 mhz ,everything works fine ...but when i test them for 16 or 24 mhz nothing goes fine ...they work unexpectedly...why so? according to data sheet max frequency is 40mhz...is there any limitation as these chips are sample....i dont think so ....oscillator is working fine as i tested with some other chips......
2.what is the difference between PIC18f458-I/P and PIC18lf458-I/P ( "l" is there in this chip)......something related to frequency?
         Please do reply.............i am confused where i am going wrong...
thanx
Amit

 

Regards

Amit Kapoor

Robot Research Engineer

Robot R&D Team

DSME

South Korea

 

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Re: PIC18F458-I/P & max frequency( is it not 40mhz??) - Leon Heller - Aug 31 2:36:00 2004

----- Original Message -----
From: Nigel Symes
To:
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 4:44 AM
Subject: Re: [piclist] PIC18F458-I/P & max frequency( is it not 40mhz??) just out of interest what does the i/p mean?

Input. O/P is output.

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Re: PIC18F458-I/P & max frequency( is it not 40mhz??) - Nigel Symes - Aug 31 5:37:00 2004

so PIC18F458-I/P means this is an "input" chip? What does that mean? ----- Original Message -----
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> Input. O/P is output.
>
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Re: PIC18F458-I/P & max frequency( is it not 40mhz??) - Leon Heller - Aug 31 5:53:00 2004

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nigel Symes" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [piclist] PIC18F458-I/P & max frequency( is it not 40mhz??) > so PIC18F458-I/P means this is an "input" chip? What does that mean?

I think it means ... - input & max frequency ...

or, it could perhaps be the package, but I don't think so.

Leon





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Re: PIC18F458-I/P & max frequency( is it not 40mhz??) - mikerey35475 - Aug 31 6:29:00 2004

--- In , "Nigel Symes" <symesbris@h...> wrote:
> just out of interest what does the i/p mean?
>
> (Yes I am a newbie....)
>
From the Product Identification section of the manual:-

PART NO. X /XX XXX
| | |_________
temp range| |- case style |- pattern

I = industrial temperature range -40 C to + 85 C

P = PDIP case style = plastic dual in-line profile

Mike




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Re: PIC18F458-I/P & max frequency( is it not 40mhz??) - Igor Janjatovic - Aug 31 6:33:00 2004

> so PIC18F458-I/P means this is an "input" chip? What does that mean?

Industrial temperature range, PDIP plastic package. Check last page of its
data sheet. Every Microchip MCU has this information on last page of its
data sheet.

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Re: PIC18F458-I/P & max frequency( is it not 40mhz??) - upand_at_them - Aug 31 10:05:00 2004

The suffix refers to temp range and package type:

I = -40C to +85C
E = -40C to +125C

P = PDIP
L = PLCC
PT = TQFP
SO = SOIC
SS = SSOP

Mike
--- In , "Nigel Symes" <symesbris@h...> wrote:
> so PIC18F458-I/P means this is an "input" chip? What does that mean?




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Re: Re: PIC18F458-I/P & max frequency( is it not 40mhz??) - Nigel Symes - Sep 1 17:39:00 2004

Thanks Mike, I knew you'd have a clear answer like always.
 
Thanks,
Nigel
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Subject: [piclist] Re: PIC18F458-I/P & max frequency( is it not 40mhz??)

The suffix refers to temp range and package type:

I = -40C to +85C
E = -40C to +125C

P = PDIP
L = PLCC
PT = TQFP
SO = SOIC
SS = SSOP

Mike
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> so PIC18F458-I/P means this is an "input" chip? What does that mean?


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Re: PIC18F458-I/P & max frequency( is it not 40mhz??) - agha_khawer - Sep 2 8:05:00 2004

Hi dear,
I have a lot of expirence in working with PIC18Fxxxx. For
18F458 using any oscillator upto 40MHz its osc. must be HS. If you
wan to opperate at 40Mhz use 10MHz crystal with 4x PLL enabled. It
works great. even with 11MHz it works on 44MHz too but Microchip
recommends not more then 40Mhz.
PIC 18F series is a much better series, I love to work with
theses 8bit powerplants. But I wish if they whre working on 80+
MIPS ;).
Good Luck
--- In , "Carlos Marcano"
<carlosmarcano78@c...> wrote:
> Amit,
>
> Are you configuring the pic for the right freq? You have to
check the
> configuration word of the chip to be in the right kind of oscillator
> frequency. Check the datasheet of the chip for info on the conf
word.
>
> About the "L" on the chip it means that it works for lower
voltages than
> normal. Once again check the datasheet. Good luck.
>
> Regards,
>
> *Carlos Marcano*
> -Guri, Venezuela-
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: AMIT KAPOOR [mailto:kaps_iit@y...]
> Enviado el: Domingo, 29 de Agosto de 2004 22:20
> Para:
> Asunto: [piclist] PIC18F458-I/P & max frequency( is it not
40mhz??) > Hi ,
> help me out!
> actually last week i got pic18f458-I/P and pic18lf458-I/P as
sample.
> 1.Now when i test them for 4
mhz ,everything works
> fine ...but when i test them for 16 or 24 mhz nothing goes
fine ...they work
> unexpectedly...why so? according to data sheet max frequency is
40mhz...is
> there any limitation as these chips are sample....i dont think so
> ....oscillator is working fine as i tested with some other
chips......
> 2.what is the difference between PIC18f458-I/P and PIC18lf458-I/P
( "l" is
> there in this chip)......something related to frequency?
> Please do reply.............i am confused where i am
going
> wrong...
> thanx
> Amit >
> Regards
> Amit Kapoor
> Robot Research Engineer
> Robot R&D Team
> DSME
> South Korea
>
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