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What is a suitable substitute for a 16F84? - oi2all - Sep 24 15:28:00 2004
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I have some books on the way to learn PIC programming. I think that the demos in the books are all based on the 16F84. This part seems to be a bit long in the tooth and also expensive compared to more powerful chips. Would the 16F628A be a good substitute for working through the books??? or would some other chip be a better choice. When I run a small program on the simulator the output for the 16F628A looks pretty much the same as the 16F84. Glitchbusters does not even sell the old 16F84 and microchip sells it for about 7$ each :-( |
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Re: What is a suitable substitute for a 16F84? - Leon Heller - Sep 24 15:55:00 2004
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----- Original Message ----- From: "oi2all" <> To: <> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 9:28 PM Subject: [piclist] What is a suitable substitute for a 16F84? >I have some books on the way to learn PIC programming. > I think that the demos in the books are all based on the > 16F84. This part seems to be a bit long in the tooth > and also expensive compared to more powerful chips. > > Would the 16F628A be a good substitute for working through > the books??? or would some other chip be a better choice. > When I run a small program on the simulator the output for > the 16F628A looks pretty much the same as the 16F84. > > Glitchbusters does not even sell the old 16F84 and microchip > sells it for about 7$ each :-( The 16F628 is generally used these days instead of the 16F84. There are a few differences which might cause some problems, but they are quite minor. Leon |
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RE: What is a suitable substitute for a 16F84? - Wouter van Ooijen - Sep 24 15:57:00 2004
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> Glitchbusters does not even sell the old 16F84 and microchip > sells it for about 7$ each :-( E4.00 ($ Mhz version): http://www.voti.nl/shop/p/PIC-16F84A-4-DIP.html The 16F628A is closest to the 16F84A (same number of pins), but the 16F630 is a smaller, cheaper and more simple chip (much smaller datasheet). Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu |
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Re: What is a suitable substitute for a 16F84? - Nigel Symes - Sep 24 17:58:00 2004
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Have you check out the 16F84A?
It might be cheaper (slightly)
My advice is buy one or two that go with the book you
are reading then when you know what you are doing get the PIC you want and grab its
datasheet and you should be fine.
Nigel
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Re: What is a suitable substitute for a 16F84? - Nigel Symes - Sep 24 18:01:00 2004
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Futurlec in the USA have the 4MHz part for US$3.50
each
www.futurlec.com
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Re: What is a suitable substitute for a 16F84? - Nigel Symes - Sep 25 23:11:00 2004
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EDTP are selling 20 16C84 at a US$1 each
http://www.edtp.com/
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Re: What is a suitable substitute for a 16F84? - jmurba - Sep 26 6:31:00 2004
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--- In , "Nigel Symes" <symesbris@h...> wrote: > EDTP are selling 20 16C84 at a US$1 each > http://www.edtp.com/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nigel Symes > To: > Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 9:01 AM > Subject: Re: [piclist] What is a suitable substitute for a 16F84? > Futurlec in the USA have the 4MHz part for US$3.50 each > www.futurlec.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nigel Symes > To: > Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 8:58 AM > Subject: Re: [piclist] What is a suitable substitute for a 16F84? > Have you check out the 16F84A? > > It might be cheaper (slightly) > > My advice is buy one or two that go with the book you are reading then when you know what you are doing get the PIC you want and grab its datasheet and you should be fine. > > Nigel > ----- Original Message ----- > From: oi2all > To: > Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 6:28 AM > Subject: [piclist] What is a suitable substitute for a 16F84? > I have some books on the way to learn PIC programming. > I think that the demos in the books are all based on the > 16F84. This part seems to be a bit long in the tooth > and also expensive compared to more powerful chips. > > Would the 16F628A be a good substitute for working through > the books??? or would some other chip be a better choice. > When I run a small program on the simulator the output for > the 16F628A looks pretty much the same as the 16F84. > > Glitchbusters does not even sell the old 16F84 and microchip > sells it for about 7$ each :-( > > to unsubscribe, go to http://www.yahoogroups.com and follow the instructions > > > to unsubscribe, go to http://www.yahoogroups.com and follow the instructions > to unsubscribe, go to http://www.yahoogroups.com and follow the instructions > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > Yahoo! Groups Links > > a.. To |
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Re: What is a suitable substitute for a 16F84? - jmurba - Sep 26 6:33:00 2004
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the 16F628 is similar , with very ligth prgram mods you will be able to run you 16F84 asm's . |
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