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Programmer and software - Ahmet Uyar - Nov 22 5:00:00 2005
Hi All,
I need to programmer shematic and software for
16F628A. Does anybody help me? Thanks for your kind help.
Ahmet Uyanık
PS: I have a si-prog programmer.
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Re: Programmer and software - Hasan Arslan - Nov 22 5:10:00 2005
Look for this sites:
http://www.kitsrus.com/upuc.html
Hasan
ARSLAN
Ahmet Uyar <u...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ahmet Uyar <u...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi All,I need to programmer shematic and software for 16F628A. Does anybody help me? Thanks for your kind help.Ahmet UyanıkPS: I have a si-prog programmer.
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RE: Programmer and software - Wouter van Ooijen - Nov 22 5:20:00 2005
> need
to programmer shematic and software for 16F628A. Does anybody help me? Thanks for your
kind help.
for
cheap but maybe not easy to use check www.ic-prog.com
Wouter van Ooijen
--
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www.voti.nl
consultancy, development, PICmicro products
docent Hogeschool van
Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu
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Re: Programmer and software - Herman Aa - Nov 22 7:34:00 2005
Ahmet Uyar wrote:
> Hi All,
> I need to programmer shematic and software for 16F628A. Does anybody
> help me? Thanks for your kind help.
> Ahmet Uyanık > PS: I have a si-prog programmer.
I dont recognize the si-prog programmer.
What is the problem with it?
I built a Parallel-Port programmer.
It is very suitable as first programmer because of its simplicity.
I programmed the 16F628A with it.
Look on this website :
http://www.winpicprog.co.uk/
You can find the schematic in the files :
OziPic.zip (74HC14 buffer and ICSP).
P16pro.zip (74LS05 bufferchip).
Characteristics:
Ultra-simple. Simple to build. Easy troubleshoot if it does not work.
Very lowcost especially if you go the ICSP-way (no ZIF socket needed).
It needs a computer with Parallel-Port (Printer-port).
The Programmer-software very conveniently assists in trouble-shooting
the programmer hardware. I built 2 of these.
Glad to help if you decide to go this route .
Dont hesitate to email me direct.
Herman in PHL 22nov2005,
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> Hi All,
> I need to programmer shematic and software for 16F628A. Does anybody
> help me? Thanks for your kind help.
> Ahmet Uyanık > PS: I have a si-prog programmer.
I dont recognize the si-prog programmer.
What is the problem with it?
I built a Parallel-Port programmer.
It is very suitable as first programmer because of its simplicity.
I programmed the 16F628A with it.
Look on this website :
http://www.winpicprog.co.uk/
You can find the schematic in the files :
OziPic.zip (74HC14 buffer and ICSP).
P16pro.zip (74LS05 bufferchip).
Characteristics:
Ultra-simple. Simple to build. Easy troubleshoot if it does not work.
Very lowcost especially if you go the ICSP-way (no ZIF socket needed).
It needs a computer with Parallel-Port (Printer-port).
The Programmer-software very conveniently assists in trouble-shooting
the programmer hardware. I built 2 of these.
Glad to help if you decide to go this route .
Dont hesitate to email me direct.
Herman in PHL 22nov2005,
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Re: Programmer and software - tyru007 - Nov 22 17:41:00 2005
www.micro4you.com has a great Microchip ICD2 for only $43 plus $6-11
in shipping. Direct replacment of the ICD2.
--- In piclist@picl..., Ahmet Uyar <uye_ol@y...> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> I need to programmer shematic and software for 16F628A. Does
anybody help me? Thanks for your kind help.
> Ahmet Uyanık > PS: I have a si-prog programmer. > ---------------------------------
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in shipping. Direct replacment of the ICD2.
--- In piclist@picl..., Ahmet Uyar <uye_ol@y...> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> I need to programmer shematic and software for 16F628A. Does
anybody help me? Thanks for your kind help.
> Ahmet Uyanık > PS: I have a si-prog programmer. > ---------------------------------
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RE: Re: Programmer and software - Alan Marconett - Nov 22 18:37:00 2005
That might be,
But I'd be careful what you order from them! I got the CP-877 V1 "trainer"
board, and the CD is unreadable on my windoz98 machine! Couldn't read or
copy anything to my hard disk. I tried on the Windoz2000 machine I use at
work, and was able to copy and rename the "funny" files, and find some
stuff. The manual was in Thai, which I couldn't read.
I posted an "early" review of the board on their website (partly to get
their attention) saying it was a nice board, and then went on to say that I
couldn't read the CD. They clipped my text after the "nice board"!
I DON'T LIKE THAT! It's misrepresentation. I was misquoted.
Yes, They did send me a PDF of the English version of the manual after that,
but no "fixed" CD.
Alan KM6VV > -----Original Message-----
> From: piclist@picl... [mailto:piclist@picl...] On Behalf
> Of tyru007
> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 1:41 PM
> To: piclist@picl...
> Subject: [piclist] Re: Programmer and software
>
> www.micro4you.com has a great Microchip ICD2 for only $43 plus $6-11
> in shipping. Direct replacment of the ICD2. >
> --- In piclist@picl..., Ahmet Uyar <uye_ol@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> > I need to programmer shematic and software for 16F628A. Does
> anybody help me? Thanks for your kind help.
> > Ahmet Uyanık
> >
> >
> > PS: I have a si-prog programmer.
>
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But I'd be careful what you order from them! I got the CP-877 V1 "trainer"
board, and the CD is unreadable on my windoz98 machine! Couldn't read or
copy anything to my hard disk. I tried on the Windoz2000 machine I use at
work, and was able to copy and rename the "funny" files, and find some
stuff. The manual was in Thai, which I couldn't read.
I posted an "early" review of the board on their website (partly to get
their attention) saying it was a nice board, and then went on to say that I
couldn't read the CD. They clipped my text after the "nice board"!
I DON'T LIKE THAT! It's misrepresentation. I was misquoted.
Yes, They did send me a PDF of the English version of the manual after that,
but no "fixed" CD.
Alan KM6VV > -----Original Message-----
> From: piclist@picl... [mailto:piclist@picl...] On Behalf
> Of tyru007
> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 1:41 PM
> To: piclist@picl...
> Subject: [piclist] Re: Programmer and software
>
> www.micro4you.com has a great Microchip ICD2 for only $43 plus $6-11
> in shipping. Direct replacment of the ICD2. >
> --- In piclist@picl..., Ahmet Uyar <uye_ol@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> > I need to programmer shematic and software for 16F628A. Does
> anybody help me? Thanks for your kind help.
> > Ahmet Uyanık
> >
> >
> > PS: I have a si-prog programmer.
>
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Re: Re: Programmer and software - Peter van Hoof - Nov 22 23:38:00 2005
--- tyru007 <tyru007@tyru...> wrote:
> www.micro4you.com has a great Microchip ICD2 for only $43 plus $6-11
> in shipping. Direct replacment of the ICD2. That clone works very well though I had trouble with 1 of my usb to
rs232 converters ended up buying a new one at walmart.
other noteworthy things there is no buffer powered by the target board
like in the original so operation at lower than 5 volt is probably not
possible (I have no need so did not try this)
Vdd is always on so Vpp before Vdd programming is not possible.
This might be a problem for some chips in some situations.
Serial comms at 57600 boud is slow compared to the speed of the usb of
the original icd2
But even with these shortcommings it's a good buy >
> --- In piclist@picl..., Ahmet Uyar <uye_ol@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> > I need to programmer shematic and software for 16F628A. Does
> anybody help me? Thanks for your kind help.
> > Ahmet Uyanık
> >
> >
> > PS: I have a si-prog programmer.
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
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>
TTYL
Peter van Hoof
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Re: Re: Programmer and software - Peter Homann - Nov 22 23:57:00 2005
Hi,
I use the Olimex ICD-2 http://www.olimex.com/dev/pic-icd2.html Its more
expensive US$89.95, still 1/2 the Microchip ICD2 price, is USB
controlled and very reliable.
They also have a PIC-Tiny-ICD2 at US$49.95 Don't know anything about
this one though apart from its serially interfaced.
Cheers,
Peter.
Dennis Clark wrote:
> Peter van Hoof wrote:
>
>>--- tyru007 <tyru007@tyru...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>www.micro4you.com has a great Microchip ICD2 for only $43 plus $6-11
>>>in shipping. Direct replacment of the ICD2.
>>>
>>
>>
>>That clone works very well though I had trouble with 1 of my usb to
>>rs232 converters ended up buying a new one at walmart. > Ick, even the real ICD2 is a pain on the serial port, you DON'T want to
> use the debugger there. >>other noteworthy things there is no buffer powered by the target board
>>like in the original so operation at lower than 5 volt is probably not
>>possible (I have no need so did not try this) > Probably doesn't matter, you can't program many (if not most) PICs ICSD
> at below 5V anyway. Or rather, you can program them, you just can't
> erase them. I forget if that mark is 4V or just under 5V, we found that
> out to our dismay not long ago. >>Vdd is always on so Vpp before Vdd programming is not possible.
>>This might be a problem for some chips in some situations.
>>
>>Serial comms at 57600 boud is slow compared to the speed of the usb of
>>the original icd2
>>
>>But even with these shortcommings it's a good buy > I went to a Microchip Masters conference and got my ICD-2 at half price,
> which made it a great deal. But you have to pony up the conference
> price, which I write off as a business expense, but still...
>
> DLC >>>--- In piclist@picl..., Ahmet Uyar <uye_ol@y...> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi All,
>>>> I need to programmer shematic and software for 16F628A. Does
>>>
>>>anybody help me? Thanks for your kind help.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ahmet Uyanık
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> PS: I have a si-prog programmer.
> --
------------------------------------------------------------------
Web: www.homanndesigns.com
email: homann@homa...
Phone: +61 421 601 665
www.homanndesigns.com/ModIO.html - Modbus Interface Unit
www.homanndesigns.com/DigiSpeedDeal.html - DC Spindle control
www.homanndesigns.com/TurboTaig.html - Taig Mill Upgrade board
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I use the Olimex ICD-2 http://www.olimex.com/dev/pic-icd2.html Its more
expensive US$89.95, still 1/2 the Microchip ICD2 price, is USB
controlled and very reliable.
They also have a PIC-Tiny-ICD2 at US$49.95 Don't know anything about
this one though apart from its serially interfaced.
Cheers,
Peter.
Dennis Clark wrote:
> Peter van Hoof wrote:
>
>>--- tyru007 <tyru007@tyru...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>www.micro4you.com has a great Microchip ICD2 for only $43 plus $6-11
>>>in shipping. Direct replacment of the ICD2.
>>>
>>
>>
>>That clone works very well though I had trouble with 1 of my usb to
>>rs232 converters ended up buying a new one at walmart. > Ick, even the real ICD2 is a pain on the serial port, you DON'T want to
> use the debugger there. >>other noteworthy things there is no buffer powered by the target board
>>like in the original so operation at lower than 5 volt is probably not
>>possible (I have no need so did not try this) > Probably doesn't matter, you can't program many (if not most) PICs ICSD
> at below 5V anyway. Or rather, you can program them, you just can't
> erase them. I forget if that mark is 4V or just under 5V, we found that
> out to our dismay not long ago. >>Vdd is always on so Vpp before Vdd programming is not possible.
>>This might be a problem for some chips in some situations.
>>
>>Serial comms at 57600 boud is slow compared to the speed of the usb of
>>the original icd2
>>
>>But even with these shortcommings it's a good buy > I went to a Microchip Masters conference and got my ICD-2 at half price,
> which made it a great deal. But you have to pony up the conference
> price, which I write off as a business expense, but still...
>
> DLC >>>--- In piclist@picl..., Ahmet Uyar <uye_ol@y...> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi All,
>>>> I need to programmer shematic and software for 16F628A. Does
>>>
>>>anybody help me? Thanks for your kind help.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ahmet Uyanık
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> PS: I have a si-prog programmer.
> --
------------------------------------------------------------------
Web: www.homanndesigns.com
email: homann@homa...
Phone: +61 421 601 665
www.homanndesigns.com/ModIO.html - Modbus Interface Unit
www.homanndesigns.com/DigiSpeedDeal.html - DC Spindle control
www.homanndesigns.com/TurboTaig.html - Taig Mill Upgrade board
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Re: Re: Programmer and software - Eugene Gopalan - Nov 23 0:03:00 2005
Peter van Hoof wrote:
>--- tyru007 <tyru007@tyru...> wrote: >
>>www.micro4you.com has a great Microchip ICD2 for only $43 plus $6-11
>>in shipping. Direct replacment of the ICD2.
>>
>>
>>
>
>That clone works very well though I had trouble with 1 of my usb to
>rs232 converters ended up buying a new one at walmart.
>
>other noteworthy things there is no buffer powered by the target board
>like in the original so operation at lower than 5 volt is probably not
>possible (I have no need so did not try this)
>
>Vdd is always on so Vpp before Vdd programming is not possible.
>This might be a problem for some chips in some situations.
>
>Serial comms at 57600 boud is slow compared to the speed of the usb of
>the original icd2
>
>But even with these shortcommings it's a good buy >
You could build your own ICD clone if you don't want to buy one.
http://users.picbasic.org/projects/ICD/ICD.htm
I tried it out and it works, but am back to using microchip's ICD after
a friend borrowed my clone AFAIK, its still working. Regards,
Eugene
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Re: Re: Programmer and software - Dennis Clark - Nov 23 0:46:00 2005
Peter van Hoof wrote:
>
> --- tyru007 <tyru007@tyru...> wrote: >>www.micro4you.com has a great Microchip ICD2 for only $43 plus $6-11
>>in shipping. Direct replacment of the ICD2.
> > That clone works very well though I had trouble with 1 of my usb to
> rs232 converters ended up buying a new one at walmart.
Ick, even the real ICD2 is a pain on the serial port, you DON'T want to
use the debugger there.
> other noteworthy things there is no buffer powered by the target board
> like in the original so operation at lower than 5 volt is probably not
> possible (I have no need so did not try this)
Probably doesn't matter, you can't program many (if not most) PICs ICSD
at below 5V anyway. Or rather, you can program them, you just can't
erase them. I forget if that mark is 4V or just under 5V, we found that
out to our dismay not long ago.
> Vdd is always on so Vpp before Vdd programming is not possible.
> This might be a problem for some chips in some situations.
>
> Serial comms at 57600 boud is slow compared to the speed of the usb of
> the original icd2
>
> But even with these shortcommings it's a good buy
I went to a Microchip Masters conference and got my ICD-2 at half price,
which made it a great deal. But you have to pony up the conference
price, which I write off as a business expense, but still...
DLC >>
>>--- In piclist@picl..., Ahmet Uyar <uye_ol@y...> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi All,
>>> I need to programmer shematic and software for 16F628A. Does
>>
>>anybody help me? Thanks for your kind help.
>>
>>> Ahmet Uyanık
>>>
>>>
>>> PS: I have a si-prog programmer. --
---------------------------------------
Dennis Clark TTT Enterprises
---------------------------------------
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>
> --- tyru007 <tyru007@tyru...> wrote: >>www.micro4you.com has a great Microchip ICD2 for only $43 plus $6-11
>>in shipping. Direct replacment of the ICD2.
> > That clone works very well though I had trouble with 1 of my usb to
> rs232 converters ended up buying a new one at walmart.
Ick, even the real ICD2 is a pain on the serial port, you DON'T want to
use the debugger there.
> other noteworthy things there is no buffer powered by the target board
> like in the original so operation at lower than 5 volt is probably not
> possible (I have no need so did not try this)
Probably doesn't matter, you can't program many (if not most) PICs ICSD
at below 5V anyway. Or rather, you can program them, you just can't
erase them. I forget if that mark is 4V or just under 5V, we found that
out to our dismay not long ago.
> Vdd is always on so Vpp before Vdd programming is not possible.
> This might be a problem for some chips in some situations.
>
> Serial comms at 57600 boud is slow compared to the speed of the usb of
> the original icd2
>
> But even with these shortcommings it's a good buy
I went to a Microchip Masters conference and got my ICD-2 at half price,
which made it a great deal. But you have to pony up the conference
price, which I write off as a business expense, but still...
DLC >>
>>--- In piclist@picl..., Ahmet Uyar <uye_ol@y...> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi All,
>>> I need to programmer shematic and software for 16F628A. Does
>>
>>anybody help me? Thanks for your kind help.
>>
>>> Ahmet Uyanık
>>>
>>>
>>> PS: I have a si-prog programmer. --
---------------------------------------
Dennis Clark TTT Enterprises
---------------------------------------
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RE: Re: Programmer and software - Alan Marconett - Nov 23 12:56:00 2005
Hi List,
Build a clone! That's a great idea! I use the ICD2 at work, and would love
to have one at home (the price recently went up). I have a relatively new
K149, but it complains of a chip info table error on power up now (didn't
before). No replies yet on the DIY list.
The code for the 16F876 is a HEX file, is it possible to program an 877 with
it (yes, I'm gonna try it)?
I suppose I could disassemble the HEX file and then assemble it again? I'm
also thinking that I can assemble a piece of code first as an 876 and again
as an 877, and see if the HEX matches. They should, they have the same CPU
core. Of course source code would be better, then I'd have an opportunity
to study how it's done.
The reason? I have '877 proto boards I'd like to use. Also looking for
transistor substitutions, 2N3904 and 2N3906?
Alan KM6VV > -----Original Message-----
> Subject: Re: [piclist] Re: Programmer and software
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> You could build your own ICD clone if you don't want to buy one.
> http://users.picbasic.org/projects/ICD/ICD.htm
>
> I tried it out and it works, but am back to using microchip's ICD after
> a friend borrowed my clone AFAIK, its still working. > Regards,
> Eugene
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Build a clone! That's a great idea! I use the ICD2 at work, and would love
to have one at home (the price recently went up). I have a relatively new
K149, but it complains of a chip info table error on power up now (didn't
before). No replies yet on the DIY list.
The code for the 16F876 is a HEX file, is it possible to program an 877 with
it (yes, I'm gonna try it)?
I suppose I could disassemble the HEX file and then assemble it again? I'm
also thinking that I can assemble a piece of code first as an 876 and again
as an 877, and see if the HEX matches. They should, they have the same CPU
core. Of course source code would be better, then I'd have an opportunity
to study how it's done.
The reason? I have '877 proto boards I'd like to use. Also looking for
transistor substitutions, 2N3904 and 2N3906?
Alan KM6VV > -----Original Message-----
> Subject: Re: [piclist] Re: Programmer and software
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> You could build your own ICD clone if you don't want to buy one.
> http://users.picbasic.org/projects/ICD/ICD.htm
>
> I tried it out and it works, but am back to using microchip's ICD after
> a friend borrowed my clone AFAIK, its still working. > Regards,
> Eugene
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Re: Re: Programmer and software - Eugene Gopalan - Nov 23 21:42:00 2005
I substituted all the transistors. Any general purpose transistor should
do, as they are only for controlling the different reset pin conditions
(low current). I used the ICD661.hex file as the original BL010101.hex
didn't work. I'll also have to let you know that I only tried it with
two targets, 16F628A and 16F877A. Can't confirm that it works with other
targets.
Good luck!
Eugene Alan Marconett wrote:
>Hi List,
>
>Build a clone! That's a great idea! I use the ICD2 at work, and would love
>to have one at home (the price recently went up). I have a relatively new
>K149, but it complains of a chip info table error on power up now (didn't
>before). No replies yet on the DIY list.
>
>The code for the 16F876 is a HEX file, is it possible to program an 877 with
>it (yes, I'm gonna try it)?
>
>I suppose I could disassemble the HEX file and then assemble it again? I'm
>also thinking that I can assemble a piece of code first as an 876 and again
>as an 877, and see if the HEX matches. They should, they have the same CPU
>core. Of course source code would be better, then I'd have an opportunity
>to study how it's done.
>
>The reason? I have '877 proto boards I'd like to use. Also looking for
>transistor substitutions, 2N3904 and 2N3906?
>
>Alan KM6VV >
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Subject: Re: [piclist] Re: Programmer and software
>>
>>
>>><snip>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>You could build your own ICD clone if you don't want to buy one.
>>http://users.picbasic.org/projects/ICD/ICD.htm
>>
>>I tried it out and it works, but am back to using microchip's ICD after
>>a friend borrowed my clone AFAIK, its still working.
>>
>>
>>Regards,
>>Eugene
>>
>
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do, as they are only for controlling the different reset pin conditions
(low current). I used the ICD661.hex file as the original BL010101.hex
didn't work. I'll also have to let you know that I only tried it with
two targets, 16F628A and 16F877A. Can't confirm that it works with other
targets.
Good luck!
Eugene Alan Marconett wrote:
>Hi List,
>
>Build a clone! That's a great idea! I use the ICD2 at work, and would love
>to have one at home (the price recently went up). I have a relatively new
>K149, but it complains of a chip info table error on power up now (didn't
>before). No replies yet on the DIY list.
>
>The code for the 16F876 is a HEX file, is it possible to program an 877 with
>it (yes, I'm gonna try it)?
>
>I suppose I could disassemble the HEX file and then assemble it again? I'm
>also thinking that I can assemble a piece of code first as an 876 and again
>as an 877, and see if the HEX matches. They should, they have the same CPU
>core. Of course source code would be better, then I'd have an opportunity
>to study how it's done.
>
>The reason? I have '877 proto boards I'd like to use. Also looking for
>transistor substitutions, 2N3904 and 2N3906?
>
>Alan KM6VV >
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Subject: Re: [piclist] Re: Programmer and software
>>
>>
>>><snip>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>You could build your own ICD clone if you don't want to buy one.
>>http://users.picbasic.org/projects/ICD/ICD.htm
>>
>>I tried it out and it works, but am back to using microchip's ICD after
>>a friend borrowed my clone AFAIK, its still working.
>>
>>
>>Regards,
>>Eugene
>>
>
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Re: Re: Programmer and software - KM6VV - Nov 25 19:00:00 2005
Hi Eugene,
The 16F877A will be fine!
I think the BL file is just a boot loader, it is MUCH shorter then the ICD661
file.
I was able to disassemble both files, and re-assemble them again. Obviously, it
would take considerable effort to make up labels and make the source completely
relocateable (no hard coded jumps). That's actually enough reverse engineering
work for now, it was mostly an experiment. Where is the ICD661 file from?
MicroChip? they may not want it reverse engineered! But now I can compile for
other processor(s), and move ports around if needed.
The effort serves to re-familiarize myself with PIC ASM code. I've found that
another project I'm working on (a port from Atmel 'C' w/ ASM in the interrupt to
PIC code) will have to have assembly in the interrupt routine. The table
information that must be accessed and output from the interrupt routine has a
single pointer trying to transfer both int and char data. The PICC 18 compiler
doesn't seem to accept the cast of a char pointer to an int pointer where I need
it (original program constraint). And of course, ASM would be much more compact
and faster.
Alan KM6VV
Eugene Gopalan wrote:
> I substituted all the transistors. Any general purpose transistor should
> do, as they are only for controlling the different reset pin conditions
> (low current). I used the ICD661.hex file as the original BL010101.hex
> didn't work. I'll also have to let you know that I only tried it with
> two targets, 16F628A and 16F877A. Can't confirm that it works with other
> targets.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Eugene > Alan Marconett wrote: >>Hi List,
>>
>>Build a clone! That's a great idea! I use the ICD2 at work, and would love
>>to have one at home (the price recently went up). I have a relatively new
>>K149, but it complains of a chip info table error on power up now (didn't
>>before). No replies yet on the DIY list.
>>
>>The code for the 16F876 is a HEX file, is it possible to program an 877 with
>>it (yes, I'm gonna try it)?
>>
>>I suppose I could disassemble the HEX file and then assemble it again? I'm
>>also thinking that I can assemble a piece of code first as an 876 and again
>>as an 877, and see if the HEX matches. They should, they have the same CPU
>>core. Of course source code would be better, then I'd have an opportunity
>>to study how it's done.
>>
>>The reason? I have '877 proto boards I'd like to use. Also looking for
>>transistor substitutions, 2N3904 and 2N3906?
>>
>>Alan KM6VV
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Subject: Re: [piclist] Re: Programmer and software
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>><snip>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>You could build your own ICD clone if you don't want to buy one.
>>>http://users.picbasic.org/projects/ICD/ICD.htm
>>>
>>>I tried it out and it works, but am back to using microchip's ICD after
>>>a friend borrowed my clone AFAIK, its still working.
>>>
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Eugene
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> >
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The 16F877A will be fine!
I think the BL file is just a boot loader, it is MUCH shorter then the ICD661
file.
I was able to disassemble both files, and re-assemble them again. Obviously, it
would take considerable effort to make up labels and make the source completely
relocateable (no hard coded jumps). That's actually enough reverse engineering
work for now, it was mostly an experiment. Where is the ICD661 file from?
MicroChip? they may not want it reverse engineered! But now I can compile for
other processor(s), and move ports around if needed.
The effort serves to re-familiarize myself with PIC ASM code. I've found that
another project I'm working on (a port from Atmel 'C' w/ ASM in the interrupt to
PIC code) will have to have assembly in the interrupt routine. The table
information that must be accessed and output from the interrupt routine has a
single pointer trying to transfer both int and char data. The PICC 18 compiler
doesn't seem to accept the cast of a char pointer to an int pointer where I need
it (original program constraint). And of course, ASM would be much more compact
and faster.
Alan KM6VV
Eugene Gopalan wrote:
> I substituted all the transistors. Any general purpose transistor should
> do, as they are only for controlling the different reset pin conditions
> (low current). I used the ICD661.hex file as the original BL010101.hex
> didn't work. I'll also have to let you know that I only tried it with
> two targets, 16F628A and 16F877A. Can't confirm that it works with other
> targets.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Eugene > Alan Marconett wrote: >>Hi List,
>>
>>Build a clone! That's a great idea! I use the ICD2 at work, and would love
>>to have one at home (the price recently went up). I have a relatively new
>>K149, but it complains of a chip info table error on power up now (didn't
>>before). No replies yet on the DIY list.
>>
>>The code for the 16F876 is a HEX file, is it possible to program an 877 with
>>it (yes, I'm gonna try it)?
>>
>>I suppose I could disassemble the HEX file and then assemble it again? I'm
>>also thinking that I can assemble a piece of code first as an 876 and again
>>as an 877, and see if the HEX matches. They should, they have the same CPU
>>core. Of course source code would be better, then I'd have an opportunity
>>to study how it's done.
>>
>>The reason? I have '877 proto boards I'd like to use. Also looking for
>>transistor substitutions, 2N3904 and 2N3906?
>>
>>Alan KM6VV
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Subject: Re: [piclist] Re: Programmer and software
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>><snip>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>You could build your own ICD clone if you don't want to buy one.
>>>http://users.picbasic.org/projects/ICD/ICD.htm
>>>
>>>I tried it out and it works, but am back to using microchip's ICD after
>>>a friend borrowed my clone AFAIK, its still working.
>>>
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Eugene
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> >
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RE: Re: Programmer and software - Alan Marconett - Dec 2 12:46:00 2005
Hi Peter!
I thought I recognized your name from our CNC lists! I've been looking at
the ICD-2 as well, since my NEW K149 isn't now. It's getting old borrowing
an ICD2 from work every weekend.
Alan KM6VV
> -----Original Message-----
> From: piclist@picl... [mailto:piclist@picl...] On Behalf
> Of Peter Homann
> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 7:58 PM
> To: piclist@picl...
> Subject: Re: [piclist] Re: Programmer and software
>
> Hi,
>
> I use the Olimex ICD-2 http://www.olimex.com/dev/pic-icd2.html Its more
> expensive US$89.95, still 1/2 the Microchip ICD2 price, is USB
> controlled and very reliable.
>
> They also have a PIC-Tiny-ICD2 at US$49.95 Don't know anything about
> this one though apart from its serially interfaced.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Peter.
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I thought I recognized your name from our CNC lists! I've been looking at
the ICD-2 as well, since my NEW K149 isn't now. It's getting old borrowing
an ICD2 from work every weekend.
Alan KM6VV
> -----Original Message-----
> From: piclist@picl... [mailto:piclist@picl...] On Behalf
> Of Peter Homann
> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 7:58 PM
> To: piclist@picl...
> Subject: Re: [piclist] Re: Programmer and software
>
> Hi,
>
> I use the Olimex ICD-2 http://www.olimex.com/dev/pic-icd2.html Its more
> expensive US$89.95, still 1/2 the Microchip ICD2 price, is USB
> controlled and very reliable.
>
> They also have a PIC-Tiny-ICD2 at US$49.95 Don't know anything about
> this one though apart from its serially interfaced.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Peter.
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Re: Re: Programmer and software - Peter Homann - Dec 2 17:18:00 2005
Hi Alan,
Yes, I have had an Olimex ICD-2 for quite a while now. I used it to
develop the ModIO software. It worked flawlessly.
Cheers,
Peter.
Alan Marconett wrote:
> Hi Peter!
>
> I thought I recognized your name from our CNC lists! I've been looking at
> the ICD-2 as well, since my NEW K149 isn't now. It's getting old borrowing
> an ICD2 from work every weekend.
>
> Alan KM6VV >>-----Original Message-----
>>From: piclist@picl... [mailto:piclist@picl...] On Behalf
>>Of Peter Homann
>>Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 7:58 PM
>>To: piclist@picl...
>>Subject: Re: [piclist] Re: Programmer and software
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I use the Olimex ICD-2 http://www.olimex.com/dev/pic-icd2.html Its more
>>expensive US$89.95, still 1/2 the Microchip ICD2 price, is USB
>>controlled and very reliable.
>>
>>They also have a PIC-Tiny-ICD2 at US$49.95 Don't know anything about
>>this one though apart from its serially interfaced.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Peter. >
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Phone: +61 421 601 665
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www.homanndesigns.com/TurboTaig.html - Taig Mill Upgrade board
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Yes, I have had an Olimex ICD-2 for quite a while now. I used it to
develop the ModIO software. It worked flawlessly.
Cheers,
Peter.
Alan Marconett wrote:
> Hi Peter!
>
> I thought I recognized your name from our CNC lists! I've been looking at
> the ICD-2 as well, since my NEW K149 isn't now. It's getting old borrowing
> an ICD2 from work every weekend.
>
> Alan KM6VV >>-----Original Message-----
>>From: piclist@picl... [mailto:piclist@picl...] On Behalf
>>Of Peter Homann
>>Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 7:58 PM
>>To: piclist@picl...
>>Subject: Re: [piclist] Re: Programmer and software
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I use the Olimex ICD-2 http://www.olimex.com/dev/pic-icd2.html Its more
>>expensive US$89.95, still 1/2 the Microchip ICD2 price, is USB
>>controlled and very reliable.
>>
>>They also have a PIC-Tiny-ICD2 at US$49.95 Don't know anything about
>>this one though apart from its serially interfaced.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Peter. >
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Re: Programmer and software - blue305ice - Dec 10 17:56:00 2005
--- In piclist@picl..., Ahmet Uyar <uye_ol@y...> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> I need to programmer shematic and software for 16F628A. Does
anybody help me? Thanks for your kind help.
> Ahmet Uyanık > PS: I have a si-prog programmer. > ---------------------------------
> Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Hi to all!
I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest a software package that
I've used with very good results.
http://www.oshonsoft.com/
Check out the above url.
The simulator is first rate as well as the tool set provided and it
is cheap.
I've succesfully created many projects very quickly using the DIY kit
149A programmer and the software from Oshonsoft.
The author provides a simple open source progammer project on his
site and provides many examples to get a new user off to a good start.
Not all PIC devices are supported but the list is constantly being
expanded and it is inclusive of most of the devices that many
beginner projects use.
The one time purchase price inculdes software updates for life at no
extra charge.
It's easy, it works and the price was certainly way less than the
value I have received from it.
I have no connection to the Oshonsoft site or the author owner, I
just like stuff that works.
Good luck, I'll go back to lurking.
Jack
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>
> Hi All,
> I need to programmer shematic and software for 16F628A. Does
anybody help me? Thanks for your kind help.
> Ahmet Uyanık > PS: I have a si-prog programmer. > ---------------------------------
> Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Hi to all!
I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest a software package that
I've used with very good results.
http://www.oshonsoft.com/
Check out the above url.
The simulator is first rate as well as the tool set provided and it
is cheap.
I've succesfully created many projects very quickly using the DIY kit
149A programmer and the software from Oshonsoft.
The author provides a simple open source progammer project on his
site and provides many examples to get a new user off to a good start.
Not all PIC devices are supported but the list is constantly being
expanded and it is inclusive of most of the devices that many
beginner projects use.
The one time purchase price inculdes software updates for life at no
extra charge.
It's easy, it works and the price was certainly way less than the
value I have received from it.
I have no connection to the Oshonsoft site or the author owner, I
just like stuff that works.
Good luck, I'll go back to lurking.
Jack
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