> Alex: very nice work dude! , im sure you have a lot
of support from the majority of people in this forum,
There is no basis for this statement unless you have privately polled every
single member.
> and every news you release are expected and followed
closely. please keep us informed!
>
Sure, that can happen, but why not simply advertise the RSS feed? Otherwise,
why provide an RSS feed?
> Paul: are you serious?
Yes.
> This guy is making a good contribution to everyone,
same as you do frequently but this just seems like an attack on a "rival
company", despict the fact that its not.
What's wrong with requesting simply to conform to well-defined newsgroup
and mailing list announcement etiquette?
I want to thank everyone who has shared his thoughts in this thread.
As far as I'm concerned the subject is closed so please lets move on
because this conversation is starting to create some tension
between us which may even turn into an argument and I really don't want to
be the cause of that.
Lets move back to what we are here for, out love/passion/joy for electronics.
Please let this be the last post of this thread.
Thank you
Alex
Reply by psyk...@yahoo.com●May 26, 20122012-05-26
Alex: very nice work dude! , im sure you have a lot of support from the majority
of people in this forum, and every news you release are expected and followed
closely. please keep us informed!
Paul: are you serious? This guy is making a good contribution to everyone, same
as you do frequently but this just seems like an attack on a "rival company",
despict the fact that its not. Also not very happy with this stone throwing in
the first place and then justify yourserlf with an "I was just saying"
attitude. Not nice at all
Nobody can for sure decide on what is and whats not a contribution, at least
while we stay on topic
--- In l..., "Alexan_e" wrote: >
> What is new in v3.1.0
>
> . Fixed: The max operating frequency for the ADC peripheral in LPC175x/6x was
14MHz instead of 13MHz [nxp41306 in LPCware.com]
> . Fixed: In the interrupt initalization of Cortex M0 the priority setting is
now placed before enabling the interrupt.
> . Fixed: The Interrupt priority comment was wrong, the priority level for
CortexM0 is 0(highest) to 3(lowest).
> . Added profiles for LPC11xx_(33p) LPC11xx33/101, LPC11xx33/201,
LPC11xx33/301 (33 pin)
> . Added profiles for LPC11xx_(48p) LPC11xx48/101, LPC11xx48/201,
LPC11xx48/301 (48 pin)
> . Added profiles for LPC11Lxx_(33p) LPC11xx33/102, LPC11xx33/202,
LPC11xx33/302 (33 pin)
> . Added profiles for LPC11Lxx_(48p) LPC11xx48/102, LPC11xx48/202,
LPC11xx48/302 (48 pin)
> . Added profiles for LPC11XLxx_(33p) LPC11xx33/103, LPC11xx33/203,
LPC11xx33/303, LPC11xx33/323, LPC11xx33/333 (33 pin)
> . Added profiles for LPC11XLxx_(48p) LPC11xx48/103, LPC11xx48/203,
LPC11xx48/303, LPC11xx48/323, LPC11xx48/333 (48 pin)
> . Added profiles for LPC11C12_14_(48p) LPC11C12, LPC11C14 (48 pin)
> . Added profiles for LPC11C22_24_(48p) LPC11C22, LPC11C24 (48 pin)
> . Added profiles for LPC11Exx_(33p) LPC11E11, LPC11E14 (33 pin)
> . Added profiles for LPC11Exx_(48p) LPC11E12, LPC11E13, LPC11E14 (48 pin)
> . Added profiles for LPC11Exx_(64p) LPC11E14 (64 pin)
> . Added profile for mbed LPC11U24 board (LPC11U24_MBED) including an image
with the board pinout.The Led pins (0.8, 0.9, 0.10, 0.11) are set as output only
and the two UART pins (0.18, 0.19) connected internally to the USB uart emulator
are inputs with only the uart alternative function available. I have also
removed the OD, HYS, INV and pull up/down modes from these pins.
>
> Visit http://alexan.edaboard.eu
>
> Best regards
> Alex
>
>
>
Reply by bonzadog●May 26, 20122012-05-26
Hi,
I think this theme needs to end now - we have had more emails pro and
contra on this theme than the number of update messages.
As far a I am concerned, he should be able to send update messages
...Alex is working on this project for the LPC group as a whole
and not charging for it. I wish to thank him for his effort and commend
his initiative, Well done Alex.
If one is not interested in the Wizard the just delete the email.
BD
Reply by Laurie Gellatly●May 26, 20122012-05-26
As a slightly different view on this, I would expect we would all have some
benefit out of might come phrased as:
"While developing version X I found that the documentation is
wrong/inaccurate and you need to do Blah versus what is written"
OR
"I found during the development of version X that Y had issues/did not
work/was a lot more complicated than expected and this group may now benefit
from my time .."
To me, that's the kind of sharing that helps us all because one day we
may
be struggling with the same issue.
.Laurie:{)
From: l... [mailto:l...] On Behalf Of
cfbsoftware1
Sent: Saturday, 26 May 2012 9:53 AM
To: l...
Subject: [lpc2000] Re: ARMwizard V3.1.0 update
--- In l... , Paul
Curtis wrote: > >
> > The total count is nine post including the one I made today, does this create so much "noise" as noltstein puts it? >
> I think you're missing the point that you have done (effectively) one announcement per week for the last month. The frequency of announcements
is
increasing and, if you keep fixing and enhancing, one can only assume the
announcement frequency will remain once a week during development... >
I agree with Paul. Consider what this group would be like if *all* of us who
are developing tools were to post announcements here every time we had a
minor upgrade. As a developer myself I understand the excitement of creating
something new and wanting to tell everybody about it. However, I also
appreciate that not everybody might be excited about it as I am.
It is not only the frequency of the announcements that are irritating - it
is also the fact that they are duplicated in other forums that I monitor
(e.g. SparkFun).
Please don't take the advice personally and go off sulking in a corner.
Just
find out who is really interested in your work and find an alternative way
to keep them informed of what you are doing and let the rest of us know when
you have something really significant to announce. I wouldn't expect this
to
be more than every three months,
P.S. We recently released a free 'Starter Edition' of Astrobe for
Cortex-M3.
I have refrained from announcing this before in this newgroup as I
didn't
want to upset anybody ;-)
--- In l..., Paul Curtis wrote: > >
> > The total count is nine post including the one I made today, does this
create so much "noise" as noltstein puts it?
>
> I think you're missing the point that you have done (effectively) one
announcement per week for the last month. The frequency of announcements is
increasing and, if you keep fixing and enhancing, one can only assume the
announcement frequency will remain once a week during development...
>
I agree with Paul. Consider what this group would be like if *all* of us who are
developing tools were to post announcements here every time we had a minor
upgrade. As a developer myself I understand the excitement of creating something
new and wanting to tell everybody about it. However, I also appreciate that not
everybody might be excited about it as I am.
It is not only the frequency of the announcements that are irritating - it is
also the fact that they are duplicated in other forums that I monitor (e.g.
SparkFun).
Please don't take the advice personally and go off sulking in a corner.
Just find out who is really interested in your work and find an alternative way
to keep them informed of what you are doing and let the rest of us know when you
have something really significant to announce. I wouldn't expect this to be
more than every three months,
P.S. We recently released a free 'Starter Edition' of Astrobe for
Cortex-M3. I have refrained from announcing this before in this newgroup as I
didn't want to upset anybody ;-)
> Hi
>
> I'm not sure what to say... it was never my intention to irritate anyone,
I just wanted to inform about the update.
I'm just saying that it has started to irritate me given the density of
announcements lately.
> I worked hard in the last week to add all of these
new models and I was very excited to introduce this update but now I'm
really wondering if there is a point to all the effort I put in when even the
news of an update is considered annoying.
A simple one-liner announcing the new version with a URL to the feature list
would seem best. My personal opinion of the tool is neither here nor there,
your work is appreciated by others here. I absolutely will defend the right to
talk about ARMwizard all you like in this group as that is wholly on topic.
Dropping into conversation that you've fixed something and made a new
version, on report of an issue, is on message too.
> Since my update notifications are not wanted I will
not post them in the future.
>
> By the way, my update posts in the last year were on the following dates:
>
> 31/5/11
> 1/6/11
> 2/9/11
> 3/9/11
> 26/3/12
> 30/4/12
> 3/5/12
> 20/5/12
> 25/5/12
>
> The total count is nine post including the one I made today, does this create
so much "noise" as noltstein puts it?
I think you're missing the point that you have done (effectively) one
announcement per week for the last month. The frequency of announcements is
increasing and, if you keep fixing and enhancing, one can only assume the
announcement frequency will remain once a week during development...
Regards,
-- Paul.
Reply by Paul Curtis●May 25, 20122012-05-25
On 25 May 2012, at 20:59, 42Bastian wrote:
> Hi Alex
>
>> I'm not sure what to say... it was never my intention to irritate
anyone, I just wanted to inform about the update.
>
> I understand Paul's comment this way: A simple:
>
> "Hey, I made a new major version, check "
Precisely. As I said in the original e-mail, yakking about what ARMwizard does
and how it does it, the interactions with NXP and so on, is all 100% on-topic
and useful and technically relevant. Rather than duplicate the information in
an e-mail, direct readers with a URL. Those really interested will add your RSS
feed to be kept up to date.
I appreciate talk about anything. However, the announcements, even though
non-commercial, have that whiff about them. Even though we have customers that
are members of this group, I don't make announcements here--we have other
channels for that.
But, hey, it's just one guy's opinion. You're free to do whatever
you want. Leon uses a pretty light touch, and there are a lot of members here
that give their time and expertise for free (you know who you are), and
self-moderation is working pretty well in this group.
Regards,
-- Paul
Reply by 42Bastian●May 25, 20122012-05-25
Hi Alex
> I'm not sure what to say... it was never my
intention to irritate anyone, I just wanted to inform about the update.
I understand Paul's comment this way: A simple:
"Hey, I made a new major version, check "
is ok, but it is (at least for me) annoying if someone posts a long list
of things that have been changed if the product is of nooo interest to me.
Welli, well. One can hit DEL, but hey even in the days of HTML-email,
being a bit sensible about email-contents/size would do good.
--- In l..., "M. Manca" wrote: >
> I would try to defend a little bit Alexander's positon.
>
> First of all I think he made a quite good tool, someone should like it,
> someone should not but he make an interesting tool more or less free, he
> leave us free to donate some money and he also inform us just with a
> link on his web site.
> And secondary I think he didn't anything different from me and a lot
of
> others when we post an announcement, a delivery information and so on,
> let me explain a little better.
>
> I should agree that if he was using this group to make business in the
> most pure form that means "make money" I should say that Alexander is
> not using correctly the group.
>
> I can say also that when we write about the xyz tool instead of XYZ tool
> we are giving opinions that may influence some people to buy or not one
> of them, so this more or less in its meaning is marketing.
>
> There are also some engineers working in the embedded tool market giving
> free help to the group and also a good group of consultants (as I),
> marketing people of NXP and so on that some time posted (I hope useful)
> announcements about delivery time, prices, comparing products from
> different vendors, proposing one product instead of an other and also
> they don't make a direct business. This doesn't mean that NXP and
others
> don't sell they products but they post here some informations that we
> should ask to area customer services or distributors. This works well
> for consultants and employed people but students, embedded fans and
> hobbyists rarely can.
>
> Personally I give here my help for free and I think to be in a position
> to say that I didn't make a cent in this way, for me is a question of
> ethycs so I am not a fan of Alexander's business as I am not a fan of
> every other engineer's business here and I don't like also small
> hypocrisy. Do you really think that he posted here announcement to make
> a lot of money? I think he likes the tool he did and he would say us
> that he seriously enhance and correct is tool. Is this so wrong?
>
> So, considering that Alexander made a free useful tool with a relevant
> interest to the group I should suggest to agree that Alexander and
> others may send some advices not too frequently. May we agree they can
> post advices only for major updates and for critical bug fixing? Is this
> an achievable "gentleman agreement"?
>
> Il 25/05/2012 20:05, Alexan_e ha scritto:
> >
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I'm not sure what to say... it was never my intention to irritate
> > anyone, I just wanted to inform about the update.
> > I worked hard in the last week to add all of these new models and I
> > was very excited to introduce this update but now I'm really
wondering
> > if there is a point to all the effort I put in when even the news of
> > an update is considered annoying.
> > Since my update notifications are not wanted I will not post them in
> > the future.
> >
> > By the way, my update posts in the last year were on the following dates:
> >
> > 31/5/11
> > 1/6/11
> > 2/9/11
> > 3/9/11
> > 26/3/12
> > 30/4/12
> > 3/5/12
> > 20/5/12
> > 25/5/12
> >
> > The total count is nine post including the one I made today, does this
> > create so much "noise" as noltstein puts it?
> >
> > Alex
> >
> > On 05/25/2012 05:53 PM, Paul Curtis wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: l...
> >
> > > [mailto:l...
> > ] On
> > > Behalf
> > > > Of Alexan_e
> > > > Sent: 25 May 2012 15:44
> > > > To: l...
> >
> > > > Subject: [lpc2000] ARMwizard V3.1.0 update
> > > >
> > > > What is new in v3.1.0
> > >
> > > Whilst this may well be a fantastic tool, announcing it on the LPC2k
> > > mailing
> > > list, along with what's changed, is starting to irritate. For
those
> > > interested, you offer an RSS feed. RAL doesn't broadcast the fact
> > that it
> > > has updated CrossWorks or LPC packages to this group, we just update
our
> > > feeds. Discussions of ARMwizard are totally on-topic, for sure.
> > >
> > > Just my $0.02.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Paul Curtis, Rowley Associates Ltd http://www.rowley.co.uk
> > > SolderCore running Defender... http://www.vimeo.com/25709426
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > .
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
