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Tequipment.net bleh. - Spehro Pefhany - 2012-10-25 14:22:00
Looks like these guys are a problem.. they took well over a month to ship (shown as in stock), and when I opened a Paypal claim (almost $3K USD was charged upon order, not held back to shipment like most legitimate companies) before the 45 day Paypal limit they appear to have immediately partial-shipped a demo unit with an invoice showing that everything was in the box. Very frustrating, as is Paypal's automated process. Internet searches shows that this kind of thing has been going on for some time now. And I thought it would be low-risk compared to eBay.. not.
Re: Tequipment.net bleh. - John Larkin - 2012-10-25 14:55:00
On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:23:09 -0400, Spehro Pefhany <s...@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote: > >Looks like these guys are a problem.. they took well over a month to >ship (shown as in stock), and when I opened a Paypal claim (almost $3K >USD was charged upon order, not held back to shipment like most >legitimate companies) before the 45 day Paypal limit they appear to >have immediately partial-shipped a demo unit with an invoice showing >that everything was in the box. Very frustrating, as is Paypal's >automated process. > >Internet searches shows that this kind of thing has been going on for >some time now. And I thought it would be low-risk compared to eBay.. >not. > Should we send them nasty emails? -- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com http://www.highlandtechnology.com Precision electronic instrumentation Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators Custom laser drivers and controllers Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links VME thermocouple, LVDT, synchro acquisition and simulation
Re: Tequipment.net bleh. - Rich Webb - 2012-10-25 16:28:00
On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:23:09 -0400, Spehro Pefhany <s...@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote: > >Looks like these guys are a problem.. they took well over a month to >ship (shown as in stock), and when I opened a Paypal claim (almost $3K >USD was charged upon order, not held back to shipment like most >legitimate companies) before the 45 day Paypal limit they appear to >have immediately partial-shipped a demo unit with an invoice showing >that everything was in the box. Very frustrating, as is Paypal's >automated process. > >Internet searches shows that this kind of thing has been going on for >some time now. And I thought it would be low-risk compared to eBay.. >not. That's surprising. Tequipment.net has been my "go to" source for years without any problems. -- Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
Re: Tequipment.net bleh. - Martin Riddle - 2012-10-25 16:41:00
On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:23:09 -0400, Spehro Pefhany <s...@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote: > >Looks like these guys are a problem.. they took well over a month to >ship (shown as in stock), and when I opened a Paypal claim (almost $3K >USD was charged upon order, not held back to shipment like most >legitimate companies) before the 45 day Paypal limit they appear to >have immediately partial-shipped a demo unit with an invoice showing >that everything was in the box. Very frustrating, as is Paypal's >automated process. > >Internet searches shows that this kind of thing has been going on for >some time now. And I thought it would be low-risk compared to eBay.. >not. > I use Testequity. Even tho I'm in NY, Things worked out good. No problems, received product in < 5 days. Cheers
Re: Tequipment.net bleh. - Spehro Pefhany - 2012-10-25 18:40:00
On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:41:04 -0400, the renowned Martin Riddle <m...@verizon.net> wrote: >On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:23:09 -0400, Spehro Pefhany ><s...@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote: > >> >>Looks like these guys are a problem.. they took well over a month to >>ship (shown as in stock), and when I opened a Paypal claim (almost $3K >>USD was charged upon order, not held back to shipment like most >>legitimate companies) before the 45 day Paypal limit they appear to >>have immediately partial-shipped a demo unit with an invoice showing >>that everything was in the box. Very frustrating, as is Paypal's >>automated process. >> >>Internet searches shows that this kind of thing has been going on for >>some time now. And I thought it would be low-risk compared to eBay.. >>not. >> > >I use Testequity. Even tho I'm in NY, Things worked out good. >No problems, received product in < 5 days. > >Cheers Second that. I've used them for test equipment before and they were 100% professional. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" s...@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
Re: Tequipment.net bleh. - Spehro Pefhany - 2012-10-25 19:52:00
On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:28:57 -0400, the renowned Rich Webb <b...@mapson.nozirev.ten> wrote: >On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:23:09 -0400, Spehro Pefhany ><s...@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote: > >> >>Looks like these guys are a problem.. they took well over a month to >>ship (shown as in stock), and when I opened a Paypal claim (almost $3K >>USD was charged upon order, not held back to shipment like most >>legitimate companies) before the 45 day Paypal limit they appear to >>have immediately partial-shipped a demo unit with an invoice showing >>that everything was in the box. Very frustrating, as is Paypal's >>automated process. >> >>Internet searches shows that this kind of thing has been going on for >>some time now. And I thought it would be low-risk compared to eBay.. >>not. > >That's surprising. Tequipment.net has been my "go to" source for years >without any problems. Here's another couple of guys with a very similar experience:- http://www.head-fi.org/t/196184/avoid-tequipment-net None of us were outright cheated, but neither did we remotely get what we have come to expect from e-commerce. Seems to be hit-and-miss, and good luck getting a straight story out of them if it turns out to be "miss". I have a good mind to lodge a complaint with the FTC. http://business.ftc.gov/documents/alt051-selling-internet-prompt-delivery-rules IIRC, they have enough teeth to get their attention. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" s...@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
Re: Tequipment.net bleh. - rickman - 2012-10-25 20:04:00
On 10/25/2012 7:52 PM, Spehro Pefhany wrote: > On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:28:57 -0400, the renowned Rich Webb > <b...@mapson.nozirev.ten> wrote: > >> On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:23:09 -0400, Spehro Pefhany >> <s...@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote: >> >>> >>> Looks like these guys are a problem.. they took well over a month to >>> ship (shown as in stock), and when I opened a Paypal claim (almost $3K >>> USD was charged upon order, not held back to shipment like most >>> legitimate companies) before the 45 day Paypal limit they appear to >>> have immediately partial-shipped a demo unit with an invoice showing >>> that everything was in the box. Very frustrating, as is Paypal's >>> automated process. >>> >>> Internet searches shows that this kind of thing has been going on for >>> some time now. And I thought it would be low-risk compared to eBay.. >>> not. >> >> That's surprising. Tequipment.net has been my "go to" source for years >> without any problems. > > Here's another couple of guys with a very similar experience:- > > http://www.head-fi.org/t/196184/avoid-tequipment-net > > None of us were outright cheated, but neither did we remotely get what > we have come to expect from e-commerce. > > Seems to be hit-and-miss, and good luck getting a straight story out > of them if it turns out to be "miss". > > I have a good mind to lodge a complaint with the FTC. > http://business.ftc.gov/documents/alt051-selling-internet-prompt-delivery-rules > IIRC, they have enough teeth to get their attention. > > > Best regards, > Spehro Pefhany Keep in mind that you still have rights on your credit card, assuming you paid PayPal with a credit card. I don't trust PayPal after a first hand experience with them. They will deal with fraud and theft when you can prove it, but they won't do any investigation into the problem beyond what you provide and they won't cooperate in contacting authorities. In fact, they will stall you. I once was send around a telephone chain only to end up back with the same person I spoke to first time as the correct department. The bottom line is that they don't care about the problem and prefer to keep it quiet to prevent it from showing up in any reported statistics. In another situation with a eBay problem the PayPal guarantee didn't help me at all because UPS says they laid the package at my door even though I never got it. PayPal wouldn't discuss it with me, or more accurately there is no means for them to discuss it with me as you said. The shipper has to file the claim with UPS and wouldn't so I was out the dough. Rick
Re: Tequipment.net bleh. - langwadt@fonz.dk - 2012-10-25 20:39:00
On 26 Okt., 02:04, rickman <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 10/25/2012 7:52 PM, Spehro Pefhany wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:28:57 -0400, the renowned Rich Webb > > <bbew...@mapson.nozirev.ten> wrote: > > >> On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:23:09 -0400, Spehro Pefhany > >> <speffS...@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote: > > >>> Looks like these guys are a problem.. they took well over a month to > >>> ship (shown as in stock), and when I opened a Paypal claim (almost $3K > >>> USD was charged upon order, not held back to shipment like most > >>> legitimate companies) before the 45 day Paypal limit they appear to > >>> have immediately partial-shipped a demo unit with an invoice showing > >>> that everything was in the box. Very frustrating, as is Paypal's > >>> automated process. > > >>> Internet searches shows that this kind of thing has been going on for > >>> some time now. And I thought it would be low-risk compared to eBay.. > >>> not. > > >> That's surprising. Tequipment.net has been my "go to" source for years > >> without any problems. > > > Here's another couple of guys with a very similar experience:- > > >http://www.head-fi.org/t/196184/avoid-tequipment-net > > > None of us were outright cheated, but neither did we remotely get what > > we have come to expect from e-commerce. > > > Seems to be hit-and-miss, and good luck getting a straight story out > > of them if it turns out to be "miss". > > > I have a good mind to lodge a complaint with the FTC. > >http://business.ftc.gov/documents/alt051-selling-internet-prompt-deli... > > IIRC, they have enough teeth to get their attention. > > > Best regards, > > Spehro Pefhany > > Keep in mind that you still have rights on your credit card, assuming > you paid PayPal with a credit card. > > I don't trust PayPal after a first hand experience with them. They will > deal with fraud and theft when you can prove it, but they won't do any > investigation into the problem beyond what you provide and they won't > cooperate in contacting authorities. In fact, they will stall you. I > once was send around a telephone chain only to end up back with the same > person I spoke to first time as the correct department. The bottom line > is that they don't care about the problem and prefer to keep it quiet to > prevent it from showing up in any reported statistics. > > In another situation with a eBay problem the PayPal guarantee didn't > help me at all because UPS says they laid the package at my door even > though I never got it. PayPal wouldn't discuss it with me, or more > accurately there is no means for them to discuss it with me as you said. > The shipper has to file the claim with UPS and wouldn't so I was out > the dough. > > Rick right if you pay by creditcard and don't get your stuff you can get the bank to reverse it, but.. some one was running a scam selling iphones and shipping shitty old random phones, because getting the bank to reverse it if you do get something, just not what you expected, is alot more trouble -Lasse
Re: Tequipment.net bleh. - rickman - 2012-10-25 20:47:00
On 10/25/2012 8:39 PM, l...@fonz.dk wrote: > > right if you pay by creditcard and don't get your stuff you can get > the bank to reverse it, but.. > > some one was running a scam selling iphones and shipping shitty old > random phones, because getting the bank to reverse it if you do get > something, just not what you expected, is alot more trouble > > > -Lasse Yes, it is a bit harder, but once they get a few complaints the credit card companies won't deal with them anymore. Same with PayPal. Eventually they get booted. My problem with PayPal is that they won't work with you to involve anyone from the outside such as law enforcement. Rick
Re: Tequipment.net bleh. - Cydrome Leader - 2012-10-26 00:05:00
In sci.electronics.design Spehro Pefhany <s...@interlogdotyou.knowwhat> wrote: > On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:41:04 -0400, the renowned Martin Riddle > <m...@verizon.net> wrote: > >>On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:23:09 -0400, Spehro Pefhany >><s...@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote: >> >>> >>>Looks like these guys are a problem.. they took well over a month to >>>ship (shown as in stock), and when I opened a Paypal claim (almost $3K >>>USD was charged upon order, not held back to shipment like most >>>legitimate companies) before the 45 day Paypal limit they appear to >>>have immediately partial-shipped a demo unit with an invoice showing >>>that everything was in the box. Very frustrating, as is Paypal's >>>automated process. >>> >>>Internet searches shows that this kind of thing has been going on for >>>some time now. And I thought it would be low-risk compared to eBay.. >>>not. >>> >> >>I use Testequity. Even tho I'm in NY, Things worked out good. >>No problems, received product in < 5 days. >> >>Cheers > > Second that. I've used them for test equipment before and they were > 100% professional. any current opinions on tucker? I've never had a problem, but have not used them lately.