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Discussion Groups | Comp.Arch.Embedded | How can I Network using a microcontroller

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Re: How can I Network using a microcontroller - Albert Lee Mitchell - 21:23 30-01-04

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:52:39 +0000, Pygmi wrote:

> I have wondered about the same thing; or
> minimum effort to add TCP/IP...
> 
> HAs anyone experience with Wiznet modules, like the
> IIM7010A ???
> 
> http://www.wiznet.co.kr/e_iinchip/index_e.htm
> 

	Yes, check out: http://www.amresearch.com:2005 for a preview of our
8051-type webserver/microcontroller.  At the moment we're experimenting
with adding CGI and POST operators but both the circuit and source will be
released under the LGPL license by March 1, 2004.

-- Regards, Albert
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AM Research, Inc.    			  The Embedded Systems Experts
http://www.amresearch.com          			  916.780.7623
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Re: How can I Network using a microcontroller - Albert Lee Mitchell - 21:26 30-01-04

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 02:25:21 +0000, Dan wrote:

> On 29 Jan 2004 04:50:40 -0800, g...@yahoo.com (Omid Ghayour)
> wrote:
> 
>>I have a microcontroller and I want to make a connection with a lan
>>card (a pc on a lan) using TCP/IP. 
> 
> You'll need a tcp-ip stack.  You might consider using embedded Linux
> or uCLinux.
> -------snip----------

	Normally, yes, you would have to but recent components like the W3100A do
much of the toil in h/w.  An 8051 is severly underpowered, and
under-RAM'ed, to handle even low speed ethernet let alone multiple sockets.

-- Regards, Albert
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AM Research, Inc.    			  The Embedded Systems Experts
http://www.amresearch.com          			  916.780.7623
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Re: How can I Network using a microcontroller - Richard - 22:31 30-01-04

Omid Ghayour wrote:
> I have a microcontroller and I want to make a
> connection with a lan card (a pc on a lan) using
> TCP/IP. I think to use the lan card IC to control
> the protocol, but I need to write a driver for it
> on my hardware. Can anybody help me to write the
> driver.

This can be a very big effort, especially the TCP stack.

See http://www.edtp.com for cheap LAN prototyping cards and C code.

Google on 8051 and one of these controllers: NE2000, RTL8019AS, CS8900A,
91C111,	AX88796, DM9000

Best, look at one of these turnkey solutions that translate a serial
interface to TCP:
http://www.lantronix.com/products/eds/xport/index.html
http://www.digi.com/products/embeddeddeviceservers/digiconnectme.jsp

Re: How can I Network using a microcontroller - 42Bastian Schick - 04:31 02-02-04

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 19:34:53 +0100, "Marko" <x...@yyyy.zz> wrote:

>
>> You'll need a tcp-ip stack.  You might consider using embedded Linux
>> or uCLinux.>
>
>or eCos.
>

On an 8051 ? You must be kidding :-)
---
42Bastian
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Re: How can I Network using a microcontroller - Markus Zingg - 04:54 02-02-04

>Rabbit makes an 8051 development board complete with 10 base-t ethernet and 
>includes a TCPIP stack with source - I think.

No, IMHO Rabbit uses their own CPU's which resemble more a Z80 than an
8051. 

While I havent used this part so far, this might be a good candidate
for what you want since it includes a MAC and a complete TCP/IP stack.
See:

http://pdfserv.maxim-ic.com/en/ds/DS80C400.pdf

HTH

Markus

Re: How can I Network using a microcontroller - Bobsprit - 10:22 02-02-04

I'm not sure if we're talking the same thing, if you want netowrking like
TCP-IP or you just want the processors to talk to each other. If the later
is true the 9 bit serial mode works great for that.

>
> >
> >> You'll need a tcp-ip stack.  You might consider using embedded Linux
> >> or uCLinux.>
> >
> >or eCos.
> >
>
> On an 8051 ? You must be kidding :-)
> ---
> 42Bastian
> Do not email to b...@yahoo.com, it's a spam-only account :-)
> Use <same-name>@epost.de instead !



Re: How can I Network using a microcontroller - Albert Lee Mitchell - 20:12 02-02-04

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 02:25:21 +0000, Dan wrote:

> On 29 Jan 2004 04:50:40 -0800, g...@yahoo.com (Omid Ghayour)
> wrote:
> 
>>I have a microcontroller and I want to make a connection with a lan
>>card (a pc on a lan) using TCP/IP. 
> 
> You'll need a tcp-ip stack.  You might consider using embedded Linux
> or uCLinux.
> 
> You can also have a look at
> http://www.dunkels.com/adam/uip/
> 
> 
> Dan


	The original point was an 8051-web server.  Linux will not run on an 8051.
 
-- Regards, Albert
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AM Research, Inc.    			  The Embedded Systems Experts
http://www.amresearch.com          			  916.780.7623
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Re: How can I Network using a microcontroller - 42Bastian Schick - 09:11 04-02-04

On 29 Jan 2004 04:50:40 -0800, g...@yahoo.com (Omid Ghayour)
wrote:

>I have a microcontroller and I want to make a connection with a lan
>card (a pc on a lan) using TCP/IP. I think to use the lan card IC to
>control the protocol, but I need to write a driver for it on my
>hardware. Can anybody help me to write the driver. I am experinced
>(almost) on 8051 microcontroller.

There is a limited TCP/IP stack called emBetter for HC12, but AFAIK it
is mostly in ANSI-C.

---
42Bastian
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Re: How can I Network using a microcontroller - ROBERTO - 13:19 17-02-04

g...@yahoo.com (Omid Ghayour) wrote in message news:<e...@posting.google.com>...
> I have a microcontroller and I want to make a connection with a lan
> card (a pc on a lan) using TCP/IP. I think to use the lan card IC to
> control the protocol, but I need to write a driver for it on my
> hardware. Can anybody help me to write the driver. I am experinced
> (almost) on 8051 microcontroller.
> 
> Thanks,
> Omid.


Hi Omid.

I develope a fantastic IPC@CHIP Beck board based on Beck SC12 Chip
(186 with Ethernet/CF socket/two serial port, I/O, Sja1000 CAN
controller ecc)

You can debug and program chip with free Beck Tools (Borland C++ 5.2
with special Turbo debugger) with 10mbit ethernet connection

You can develope web server, Tcp remote client/server control, Ftp PPP
Email connection ecc..

for price and more information send email at : t...@inwind.it


Bye From Italy

Roberto Vescovi

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