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Discussion Groups | Comp.Arch.Embedded | Micro-SD card initialisation-problem

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Re: Micro-SD card initialisation-problem - rickman - 09:36 20-07-08

On Jul 19, 11:26 am, "R.Wieser" <addr...@not.available> wrote:
> Hello CBFalconer,
>
> > Please do not top-post.
>
> You are welcome to your own preference.  But if I have to listen to all of
> them I will have to post multiple versions of everything I write (one top,
> one bottom, one interleaved, and than the same but with the *whole* thread
> above or below it).
>
> But that would only mean I would be "right" in only 1/5 of those posts, and
> "wrong" in all the others (and thats apart from all the troubles I would get
> into by "doubleposting" :-\ )
>
> So I have choosen to create interleaved posts (using references from the
> origional and my responses to them), whith the origional post *as a
> reference* below it (so technically I'm neither a top nor bottom-poster).
>
> Personally I dislike bottom-posting : when I open such a message I see an
> *old* message instead of the new information.  Very funny when multiple
> people respond to the same message.
>
> Next time just stop reading where you see, after two blank lines, a "<name>
>
> <url> wrote in message" line pop-up.  :-)
>
> Regards,
>   Rudy Wieser
>
> CBFalconer <cbfalco...@yahoo.com> schreef in berichtnieuws
> 4881AC8D.943A6...@yahoo.com...


Please don't respond when people complain about top/bottom/oreo
posting.  It is not a lot different than not feeding trolls.  I know
that CBF thinks he is doing something good, but there is no way to
explain to him that his posts have little if any impact on the
Internet.

But then my post about not responding to his post is likely the
same...

Rick



Re: Micro-SD card initialisation-problem - Resolved - rickman - 09:52 20-07-08

On Jul 19, 7:48 pm, Mark Borgerson <mborger...@comcast.net> wrote:
> In article <488243cf$0$15203$e4fe5...@dreader15.news.xs4all.nl>,
> addr...@not.available says...
>
> > Hello Mark,
>
> > > You would have had fewer pins to solder, and a better result,
> > > if you had used a 3-terminal  3.3V regulator in the first place.
>
> > If I had one I would probably have used it.   The problem is that I'm living
> > in a town with a single electronics-store which does not carry much "odd"
> > components.  A few 78(L)XX and 79(L)XX stabelizers is about all I can get.
> > And alas, I'm not too happy about ordering stuff off the web ...
>
> A matter of personal preferences, I suppose.  I couldn't be a self-
> employed embedded systems designer without being able to order
> my parts from Digi-Key and others.   I  try to group up orders so
> that the $20 for 2nd day air shipment is less than 10% of the
> order cost.   Since I build prototypes and small-volume parts
> with a good margin,  a parts shipment cost of 10% is not
> an issue.

I made a discovery the other day.  Digi-key is in the middle, no, the
west edge of nowhere.  As such, although both UPS and FedEx will
deliver my package to them in 3 days, it takes 4 days for them to
deliver to me (near Wash, DC).  I tried USPS Priority and I
consistently get 2 day delivery for next to nothing in postage.  So
unless it is a *serious* rush, I spend $5 and get two day service.  I
would assume that many locations would get the same level of service.

The post office doing something better than the commercial carriers!
Who would have thunk it???

Rick


Re: Micro-SD card initialisation-problem - CBFalconer - 10:24 20-07-08

rickman wrote:
> 
... snip ...
> 
> Please don't respond when people complain about top/bottom/oreo
> posting.  It is not a lot different than not feeding trolls.  I
> know that CBF thinks he is doing something good, but there is no
> way to explain to him that his posts have little if any impact
> on the Internet.

You seem to have failed to notice that my 'complaints' include a
herd of references to standards etc., so that the complainee has a
reasonable chance to see the reasons for the practice.

-- 
 [mail]: Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net) 
 [page]: <http://cbfalconer.home.att.net>;
            Try the download section.



Re: Micro-SD card initialisation-problem - Resolved - Mark Borgerson - 15:05 20-07-08

In article <32c85ac0-2438-4426-8712-e0677eab7144
@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, g...@gmail.com says...
> On Jul 19, 7:48 pm, Mark Borgerson <mborger...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > In article <488243cf$0$15203$e4fe5...@dreader15.news.xs4all.nl>,
> > addr...@not.available says...
> >
> > > Hello Mark,
> >
> > > > You would have had fewer pins to solder, and a better result,
> > > > if you had used a 3-terminal  3.3V regulator in the first place.
> >
> > > If I had one I would probably have used it.   The problem is that I'm living
> > > in a town with a single electronics-store which does not carry much "odd"
> > > components.  A few 78(L)XX and 79(L)XX stabelizers is about all I can get.
> > > And alas, I'm not too happy about ordering stuff off the web ...
> >
> > A matter of personal preferences, I suppose.  I couldn't be a self-
> > employed embedded systems designer without being able to order
> > my parts from Digi-Key and others.   I  try to group up orders so
> > that the $20 for 2nd day air shipment is less than 10% of the
> > order cost.   Since I build prototypes and small-volume parts
> > with a good margin,  a parts shipment cost of 10% is not
> > an issue.
> 
> I made a discovery the other day.  Digi-key is in the middle, no, the
> west edge of nowhere.  As such, although both UPS and FedEx will
> deliver my package to them in 3 days, it takes 4 days for them to
> deliver to me (near Wash, DC).  I tried USPS Priority and I
> consistently get 2 day delivery for next to nothing in postage.  So
> unless it is a *serious* rush, I spend $5 and get two day service.  I
> would assume that many locations would get the same level of service.

Digi-Key is in Minnesota.  That isn't the west edge of nowhere
by any means---I live in the Continental US about 1500 miles
west of DigiKey!   ;-)
> 
> The post office doing something better than the commercial carriers!
> Who would have thunk it???
> 
Interesting.   From Minnesota to Oregon,  I always get 2nd day air
packages within the delivery target time.   I haven't tried
USPS yet, though.   A sticking point for me would be any 
packages that wouldn't fit in our rural-route mailbox would require the
postman to walk up the driveway and ring the bell---or leave 
a note and have me drive to the post office to get the package.


Mark Borgerson



Re: Micro-SD card initialisation-problem - Mark Borgerson - 15:11 20-07-08

In article <4...@yahoo.com>, c...@yahoo.com says...
> rickman wrote:
> > 
> ... snip ...
> > 
> > Please don't respond when people complain about top/bottom/oreo
> > posting.  It is not a lot different than not feeding trolls.  I
> > know that CBF thinks he is doing something good, but there is no
> > way to explain to him that his posts have little if any impact
> > on the Internet.
> 
> You seem to have failed to notice that my 'complaints' include a
> herd of references to standards etc., so that the complainee has a
> reasonable chance to see the reasons for the practice.
> 
> 
LOL!   I think many of the 'standards' about email and newsgroups
were written when  28.8KB modems were all the rage and 'terminal'
meant a 300-baud teleprinter if you were lucky!    The only things
that adapt more slowly than internet 'standards' are organisms
that are generally extinct.


Mark Borgerson


Re: Micro-SD card initialisation-problem - donald - 17:40 20-07-08

NO YOU seem to have failed to notice that your holy war does NO GOOD.

thank you, mother falconer.

CBFalconer wrote:
> rickman wrote:
> ... snip ...
>> Please don't respond when people complain about top/bottom/oreo
>> posting.  It is not a lot different than not feeding trolls.  I
>> know that CBF thinks he is doing something good, but there is no
>> way to explain to him that his posts have little if any impact
>> on the Internet.
> 
> You seem to have failed to notice that my 'complaints' include a
> herd of references to standards etc., so that the complainee has a
> reasonable chance to see the reasons for the practice.
> 

Re: Micro-SD card initialisation-problem - Michael N. Moran - 18:39 20-07-08

donald wrote:
> NO YOU seem to have failed to notice that your holy war
> does NO GOOD.
> 
> thank you, mother falconer.

FWIW, I believe that there are many of us who
appreciate Chuck's efforts to educate
new-comers to the customs of this medium. He
is curteous, provides background information,
takes the heat, and obviates the need for the
rest of us to comment. The down side of this,
however, is that it sometimes *seems* that he is
on a personal crusade.

Thanks Chuck.

-- 
Michael N. Moran           (h) 770 516 7918
5009 Old Field Ct.         (c) 678 521 5460
Kennesaw, GA, USA 30144    http://mnmoran.org

"So often times it happens, that we live our lives in chains
  and we never even know we have the key."
"Already Gone" by Jack Tempchin (recorded by The Eagles)

The Beatles were wrong: 1 & 1 & 1 is 1

Re: Micro-SD card initialisation-problem - donald - 20:00 20-07-08

Michael N. Moran wrote:
>  The down side of this,
> however, is that it sometimes *seems* that he is
> on a personal crusade.
> 
> Thanks Chuck.
> 

Thanks for the engineering effort.

Please leave your jahad at home.

donald

Re: Micro-SD card initialisation-problem - Mark McDougall - 22:01 20-07-08

R.Wieser wrote:

> Hmmm ...   I've got two cards, one of them a Sandisk, but they both are
>  2GByte.  I'll have to see if I can find/buy a smaller card somewhere.
> 
> Question: what stops the 2GB cards from responding as described in the 
> documents ?   And I would like to be able to eventually access both
> cards, do you know any things I can try ?

I suggested mid-range because they're likely to be more "well behaved" and 
you're not getting into the realm of HCSD. The 2GB SanDisk should work OK 
- it's more likely in this case that there is a problem with your 
implementation.

If you were using 4GB ElCheapo then I'd be more ready to suspect the card...

Regards,

-- 
Mark McDougall, Engineer
Virtual Logic Pty Ltd, <http://www.vl.com.au>;
21-25 King St, Rockdale, 2216
Ph: +612-9599-3255 Fax: +612-9599-3266

Re: Micro-SD card initialisation-problem - Mark McDougall - 22:06 20-07-08

rickman wrote:

> Please don't respond when people complain about top/bottom/oreo
> posting.  

Please don't respond when people respond when people compain about 
top/bottom/oeeo posting. :P

Regards,

-- 
Mark McDougall, Engineer
Virtual Logic Pty Ltd, <http://www.vl.com.au>;
21-25 King St, Rockdale, 2216
Ph: +612-9599-3255 Fax: +612-9599-3266

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