> I wonder if, an issue that used to be a problem
with Flash, of over
> programming occurs?
I would agree with that except that I know how my boards are
programmed and it is not over Flashing.
Nicholas symptomatic board problem tells me it was zapped. He went
thru a test process that I usually do my with boards before the last
resort of removing and replacind MCUs. I am not 100% certain that is
the problem with Nicholas' board but with experience you get know
these things :-)))
--- In 68HC12@68HC..., Andrew Lohmann <andrew.lohmann@b...> wrote: > Hi
> I wonder if, an issue that used to be a problem with Flash, of over
> programming occurs? In a discussion a long time back I'm sure it was
> said that this issue does not now arise. When we have programmed Intel
> flash on our programmer in the past I recall that sometimes the flash
> won't program unless you take it out of the programmer socket and put it > back again latter.
>
> I have had a similar experience with two MC9S12DP256B targets, where my
> P&E USB BDM interface's unreliability got so bad that it appears
to have > corrupted the micro. Unsecure always reported that
the device was not
> secured. I switched to using a P&E parallel cable and the BDM
> programming became completely reliable. But It took a number of attempts > before the two target boards recovered, I was
going to have the
> processors taken off and replaced, but one more try and they came back
> to life and have stayed fine for the past month or so.
>
> I tried perusing P&E about the USB Multilink12 problem and also where to > get the firmware upload utility for ubmbdmens.510,
as the firmware I
> have is version 5.09 to no avail. It may be that USB multilink12 Rev.B
> is ok, the the parallel version with the patch if you are using XpPro
> certainly is excellent. I use Cosmic Zap for debugging and programming
> which is a nice tool to use, but does not really have a bearing on the
> discussion.
> Andrew Lohmann AMIIE
> Design Engineer
>
>
> zeta_alpha2002 wrote:
>
> >
> > > I'm just as curious to know what happened as you are.
> >
> > Not an uncommon thing to happen. A lot of my boards get handled by
> > many people. Static Zap is mostly the culprit. Main symptom get
> > reported to me as "can't program any longer". If it
used to work and
> > now won't and certain things were check then the MCU gets removed
and
> > replace.
> >
Reply by Andrew Lohmann●April 8, 20052005-04-08
Hi
I wonder if, an issue that used to be a problem with Flash, of over
programming occurs? In a discussion a long time back I'm sure it was
said that this issue does not now arise. When we have programmed Intel
flash on our programmer in the past I recall that sometimes the flash
won't program unless you take it out of the programmer socket and put it
back again latter.
I have had a similar experience with two MC9S12DP256B targets, where my
P&E USB BDM interface's unreliability got so bad that it appears to
have
corrupted the micro. Unsecure always reported that the device was not
secured. I switched to using a P&E parallel cable and the BDM
programming became completely reliable. But It took a number of attempts
before the two target boards recovered, I was going to have the
processors taken off and replaced, but one more try and they came back
to life and have stayed fine for the past month or so.
I tried perusing P&E about the USB Multilink12 problem and also where to
get the firmware upload utility for ubmbdmens.510, as the firmware I
have is version 5.09 to no avail. It may be that USB multilink12 Rev.B
is ok, the the parallel version with the patch if you are using XpPro
certainly is excellent. I use Cosmic Zap for debugging and programming
which is a nice tool to use, but does not really have a bearing on the
discussion.
Andrew Lohmann AMIIE
Design Engineer
zeta_alpha2002 wrote:
>
> > I'm just as curious to know what happened as you are.
>
> Not an uncommon thing to happen. A lot of my boards get handled by
> many people. Static Zap is mostly the culprit. Main symptom get
> reported to me as "can't program any longer". If it used to
work and
> now won't and certain things were check then the MCU gets removed
and
> replace.
> --- In 68HC12@68HC..., "pickleza" <pickleza@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Edward,
> >
> > I have checked all the signals on the pins of the micro, so I
don't
> > think its a soldering problem. I also check continuity between BDM
> > connector and the pins of the micro, and they're all good.
> >
> > Yes. ECLK is going with or without the BDM cable connected.
> >
> > Just checked VDD1/2 aswell. Both of them just have a cap to VSS1/2.
> > So I don't think thats the problem either.
> >
> > I'm just as curious to know what happened as you are.
> >
> > Thanks for the suggestions
> > Nicholas
> >
> > --- In 68HC12@68HC..., "Edward Karpicz" <karpicz@a...>
wrote:
> > > What about bad soldering? Did you check RESET and BKGD by
probing
> > them
> > > straight at MCU pins?
> > >
> > > Hm, ECLK output is enabled. If software you flashed to the
chip
> > last time
> > > isn't writing to PEAR.NECLK bit to enable ECLK, and MODA and
MODB
> > pins are
> > > set for single chip operation (MODA=MODB=0) then it looks like
part
> > enters
> > > special single chip mode (BKGD=0 on reset). Do you see ECLK
output
> > even with
> > > BDM cable disconnected? If so then either BKGD pin is all the
time
> > at 0V and
> > > you should double check soldering, or pin is wired to BDM
connector
> > but
> > > there's no mo wire from pin to die...
> > >
> > > Also, if I remember correctly there was someone on the list
who
> > wired VDD1
> > > and VDD2 to 5V, and BDM communication was working for a while...
If
> > it's not
> > > the case then I'm curious how did you fry your 9S12.
> > >
> > > Edward
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "pickleza" <pickleza@y...>
> > > To: <68HC12@68HC...>
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 6:04 PM
> > > Subject: [68HC12] Re: BDM Not Working
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yip. The RESET line is fine.
> > > >
> > > > 1. Can't unsecure. Unsecure programs can't
communicate.
> > > > 2. BDM BKGD line is working. There is traffic on the pin,
but it
> > > > looks like there's no reply.
> > > > 3. Oscillator is working. It is buffered on ECLK.
> > > > 4. Reset line is good. Comes down for 200ms or so, then back
up.
> > > >
> > > > Nicholas
> > > >
> > > > --- In 68HC12@68HC..., "zeta_alpha2002"
> > <zeta_alpha2002@y...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Your tried and check
> > > >> 1. unsecure
> > > >> 2. BDM line
> > > >> 3. Oscillator is oscillating/
> > > >> 4. If RESET is okay then
> > > >>
> > > >> Bad MCU, it got sick and fried.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --- In 68HC12@68HC..., "pickleza"
<pickleza@y...> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I thought it might be the oscillator, so thats what
I checked
> > > > first.
> > > >> > There is clock coming out of the ECLK, so I think
the
> > oscillator
> > > > is
> > > >> > working.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I will check the RESET line and let you know what I
find.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Thanks
> > > >> > Nicholas
> > > >> >
> > > >> > --- In 68HC12@68HC...,
"zeta_alpha2002"
> > > > <zeta_alpha2002@y...>
> > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Symptom suggest a reset problem. Check the
reset line or the
> > > >> > > oscillator not ticking.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > --- In 68HC12@68HC..., "pickleza"
<pickleza@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > I have checked the BDM connections. I
checked for traffic
> > on
> > > > the
> > > >> > BKGD
> > > >> > > > pin, and its there.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Power is on. All the lights are on. I am
using a PC power
> > > > supply
> > > >> > > > through a LM317 regulator, so there
shouldn't be any
> > problems
> > > >> > with
> > > >> > > > current. I measured the current going to
the chip somewhere
> > > > round
> > > >> > > > 50mA when running normally. What does it
get up to?
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > The thing that makes me think the pin is
at fault is that
> > it
> > > >> > worked
> > > >> > > > before, then suddenly stopped. Also none
of the programs
> > are
> > > > able
> > > >> > to
> > > >> > > > detect the clock speed of the chip.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Is there a way to test the pin? Is there
traffic on the pin
> > > > when
> > > >> > the
> > > >> > > > BDM programmer is disconnected?
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Nicholas
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > --- In 68HC12@68HC...,
"a_ribero" <a_ribero@y...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Hi Nicholas:
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Did you double ckeck the BDM
connections. If you 6-pin
> > > >> > connector is
> > > >> > > > > not connected properly, the BDM box
won't be able to
> > > >> > communicate to
> > > >> > > > > the board.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > And just to be sure, is the power
supply on? Sometimes
> > you
> > > > have
> > > >> > to
> > > >> > > > go
> > > >> > > > > to the basics...
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Do you use a Lab power supply? If
so, check that the
> > current
> > > >> > > > > limitation is not too low.
Otherwise, there is not enough
> > > >> > current to
> > > >> > > > > power up the board, therefore, no
programming can happen.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > I would the BKDG pin as the last
suspect. Most of the
> > time
> > > >> > there are
> > > >> > > > > other problems that prevent the
programming.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Regards,
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Alex
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >.
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> I'm just as curious to know what happened as
you are.
Not an uncommon thing to happen. A lot of my boards get handled by
many people. Static Zap is mostly the culprit. Main symptom get
reported to me as "can't program any longer". If it used to work
and
now won't and certain things were check then the MCU gets removed and
replace.
--- In 68HC12@68HC..., "pickleza" <pickleza@y...> wrote: >
> Hi Edward,
>
> I have checked all the signals on the pins of the micro, so I don't
> think its a soldering problem. I also check continuity between BDM
> connector and the pins of the micro, and they're all good.
>
> Yes. ECLK is going with or without the BDM cable connected.
>
> Just checked VDD1/2 aswell. Both of them just have a cap to VSS1/2.
> So I don't think thats the problem either.
>
> I'm just as curious to know what happened as you are.
>
> Thanks for the suggestions
> Nicholas
>
> --- In 68HC12@68HC..., "Edward Karpicz" <karpicz@a...>
wrote:
> > What about bad soldering? Did you check RESET and BKGD by probing
> them
> > straight at MCU pins?
> >
> > Hm, ECLK output is enabled. If software you flashed to the chip
> last time
> > isn't writing to PEAR.NECLK bit to enable ECLK, and MODA and MODB
> pins are
> > set for single chip operation (MODA=MODB=0) then it looks like part
> enters
> > special single chip mode (BKGD=0 on reset). Do you see ECLK output
> even with
> > BDM cable disconnected? If so then either BKGD pin is all the time
> at 0V and
> > you should double check soldering, or pin is wired to BDM connector
> but
> > there's no mo wire from pin to die...
> >
> > Also, if I remember correctly there was someone on the list who
> wired VDD1
> > and VDD2 to 5V, and BDM communication was working for a while... If
> it's not
> > the case then I'm curious how did you fry your 9S12.
> >
> > Edward
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "pickleza" <pickleza@y...>
> > To: <68HC12@68HC...>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 6:04 PM
> > Subject: [68HC12] Re: BDM Not Working
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yip. The RESET line is fine.
> > >
> > > 1. Can't unsecure. Unsecure programs can't
communicate.
> > > 2. BDM BKGD line is working. There is traffic on the pin, but
it
> > > looks like there's no reply.
> > > 3. Oscillator is working. It is buffered on ECLK.
> > > 4. Reset line is good. Comes down for 200ms or so, then back
up.
> > >
> > > Nicholas
> > >
> > > --- In 68HC12@68HC..., "zeta_alpha2002"
> <zeta_alpha2002@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Your tried and check
> > >> 1. unsecure
> > >> 2. BDM line
> > >> 3. Oscillator is oscillating/
> > >> 4. If RESET is okay then
> > >>
> > >> Bad MCU, it got sick and fried.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --- In 68HC12@68HC..., "pickleza"
<pickleza@y...> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > I thought it might be the oscillator, so thats what I
checked
> > > first.
> > >> > There is clock coming out of the ECLK, so I think the
> oscillator
> > > is
> > >> > working.
> > >> >
> > >> > I will check the RESET line and let you know what I
find.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks
> > >> > Nicholas
> > >> >
> > >> > --- In 68HC12@68HC..., "zeta_alpha2002"
> > > <zeta_alpha2002@y...>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Symptom suggest a reset problem. Check the reset
line or the
> > >> > > oscillator not ticking.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --- In 68HC12@68HC..., "pickleza"
<pickleza@y...>
> wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > I have checked the BDM connections. I checked
for traffic
> on
> > > the
> > >> > BKGD
> > >> > > > pin, and its there.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Power is on. All the lights are on. I am using
a PC power
> > > supply
> > >> > > > through a LM317 regulator, so there
shouldn't be any
> problems
> > >> > with
> > >> > > > current. I measured the current going to the
chip somewhere
> > > round
> > >> > > > 50mA when running normally. What does it get
up to?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > The thing that makes me think the pin is at
fault is that
> it
> > >> > worked
> > >> > > > before, then suddenly stopped. Also none of
the programs
> are
> > > able
> > >> > to
> > >> > > > detect the clock speed of the chip.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Is there a way to test the pin? Is there
traffic on the pin
> > > when
> > >> > the
> > >> > > > BDM programmer is disconnected?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Nicholas
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > --- In 68HC12@68HC..., "a_ribero"
<a_ribero@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Hi Nicholas:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Did you double ckeck the BDM connections.
If you 6-pin
> > >> > connector is
> > >> > > > > not connected properly, the BDM box
won't be able to
> > >> > communicate to
> > >> > > > > the board.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > And just to be sure, is the power supply
on? Sometimes
> you
> > > have
> > >> > to
> > >> > > > go
> > >> > > > > to the basics...
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Do you use a Lab power supply? If so,
check that the
> current
> > >> > > > > limitation is not too low. Otherwise,
there is not enough
> > >> > current to
> > >> > > > > power up the board, therefore, no
programming can happen.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > I would the BKDG pin as the last suspect.
Most of the
> time
> > >> > there are
> > >> > > > > other problems that prevent the
programming.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Regards,
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Alex
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
Reply by pickleza●April 8, 20052005-04-08
Hi Edward,
I have checked all the signals on the pins of the micro, so I don't
think its a soldering problem. I also check continuity between BDM
connector and the pins of the micro, and they're all good.
Yes. ECLK is going with or without the BDM cable connected.
Just checked VDD1/2 aswell. Both of them just have a cap to VSS1/2.
So I don't think thats the problem either.
I'm just as curious to know what happened as you are.
Thanks for the suggestions
Nicholas
--- In 68HC12@68HC..., "Edward Karpicz" <karpicz@a...> wrote: > What about bad soldering? Did you check RESET and
BKGD by probing them > straight at MCU pins?
>
> Hm, ECLK output is enabled. If software you flashed to the chip last time > isn't writing to PEAR.NECLK bit to enable
ECLK, and MODA and MODB pins are > set for single chip operation (MODA=MODB=0) then
it looks like part enters > special single chip mode (BKGD=0 on reset). Do you
see ECLK output even with > BDM cable disconnected? If so then either BKGD pin
is all the time at 0V and > you should double check soldering, or pin is wired
to BDM connector but > there's no mo wire from pin to die...
>
> Also, if I remember correctly there was someone on the list who wired VDD1 > and VDD2 to 5V, and BDM communication was working
for a while... If it's not > the case then I'm curious how did you fry
your 9S12.
>
> Edward
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "pickleza" <pickleza@y...>
> To: <68HC12@68HC...>
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 6:04 PM
> Subject: [68HC12] Re: BDM Not Working
> >
> >
> > Yip. The RESET line is fine.
> >
> > 1. Can't unsecure. Unsecure programs can't communicate.
> > 2. BDM BKGD line is working. There is traffic on the pin, but it
> > looks like there's no reply.
> > 3. Oscillator is working. It is buffered on ECLK.
> > 4. Reset line is good. Comes down for 200ms or so, then back up.
> >
> > Nicholas
> >
> > --- In 68HC12@68HC..., "zeta_alpha2002" <zeta_alpha2002@y...> > > wrote:
> >>
> >> Your tried and check
> >> 1. unsecure
> >> 2. BDM line
> >> 3. Oscillator is oscillating/
> >> 4. If RESET is okay then
> >>
> >> Bad MCU, it got sick and fried.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In 68HC12@68HC..., "pickleza" <pickleza@y...>
wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I thought it might be the oscillator, so thats what I
checked
> > first.
> >> > There is clock coming out of the ECLK, so I think the oscillator > > is
> >> > working.
> >> >
> >> > I will check the RESET line and let you know what I find.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> > Nicholas
> >> >
> >> > --- In 68HC12@68HC..., "zeta_alpha2002"
> > <zeta_alpha2002@y...>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Symptom suggest a reset problem. Check the reset line or
the
> >> > > oscillator not ticking.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --- In 68HC12@68HC..., "pickleza"
<pickleza@y...> wrote: > >> > > >
> >> > > > I have checked the BDM connections. I checked for
traffic on > > the
> >> > BKGD
> >> > > > pin, and its there.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Power is on. All the lights are on. I am using a PC
power
> > supply
> >> > > > through a LM317 regulator, so there shouldn't
be any problems > >> > with
> >> > > > current. I measured the current going to the chip
somewhere
> > round
> >> > > > 50mA when running normally. What does it get up
to?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > The thing that makes me think the pin is at fault
is that it > >> > worked
> >> > > > before, then suddenly stopped. Also none of the
programs are > > able
> >> > to
> >> > > > detect the clock speed of the chip.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Is there a way to test the pin? Is there traffic on
the pin
> > when
> >> > the
> >> > > > BDM programmer is disconnected?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Nicholas
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --- In 68HC12@68HC..., "a_ribero"
<a_ribero@y...>
> > wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Hi Nicholas:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Did you double ckeck the BDM connections. If
you 6-pin
> >> > connector is
> >> > > > > not connected properly, the BDM box won't
be able to
> >> > communicate to
> >> > > > > the board.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > And just to be sure, is the power supply on?
Sometimes you > > have
> >> > to
> >> > > > go
> >> > > > > to the basics...
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Do you use a Lab power supply? If so, check
that the current > >> > > > > limitation is not too
low. Otherwise, there is not enough
> >> > current to
> >> > > > > power up the board, therefore, no programming
can happen.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I would the BKDG pin as the last suspect. Most
of the time > >> > there are
> >> > > > > other problems that prevent the
programming.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Regards,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Alex
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
Reply by Edward Karpicz●April 7, 20052005-04-07
What about bad soldering? Did you check RESET and BKGD by probing them
straight at MCU pins?
Hm, ECLK output is enabled. If software you flashed to the chip last time
isn't writing to PEAR.NECLK bit to enable ECLK, and MODA and MODB pins are
set for single chip operation (MODA=MODB=0) then it looks like part enters
special single chip mode (BKGD=0 on reset). Do you see ECLK output even with
BDM cable disconnected? If so then either BKGD pin is all the time at 0V and
you should double check soldering, or pin is wired to BDM connector but
there's no mo wire from pin to die...
Also, if I remember correctly there was someone on the list who wired VDD1
and VDD2 to 5V, and BDM communication was working for a while... If it's
not
the case then I'm curious how did you fry your 9S12.
Edward
----- Original Message -----
From: "pickleza" <pickleza@pick...>
To: <68HC12@68HC...>
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 6:04 PM
Subject: [68HC12] Re: BDM Not Working
>
>
> Yip. The RESET line is fine.
>
> 1. Can't unsecure. Unsecure programs can't communicate.
> 2. BDM BKGD line is working. There is traffic on the pin, but it
> looks like there's no reply.
> 3. Oscillator is working. It is buffered on ECLK.
> 4. Reset line is good. Comes down for 200ms or so, then back up.
>
> Nicholas
>
> --- In 68HC12@68HC..., "zeta_alpha2002"
<zeta_alpha2002@y...>
> wrote:
>>
>> Your tried and check
>> 1. unsecure
>> 2. BDM line
>> 3. Oscillator is oscillating/
>> 4. If RESET is okay then
>>
>> Bad MCU, it got sick and fried.
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In 68HC12@68HC..., "pickleza" <pickleza@y...>
wrote:
>> >
>> > I thought it might be the oscillator, so thats what I checked
> first.
>> > There is clock coming out of the ECLK, so I think the
oscillator
> is
>> > working.
>> >
>> > I will check the RESET line and let you know what I find.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Nicholas
>> >
>> > --- In 68HC12@68HC..., "zeta_alpha2002"
> <zeta_alpha2002@y...>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Symptom suggest a reset problem. Check the reset line or
the
>> > > oscillator not ticking.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --- In 68HC12@68HC..., "pickleza"
<pickleza@y...> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > I have checked the BDM connections. I checked for
traffic on
> the
>> > BKGD
>> > > > pin, and its there.
>> > > >
>> > > > Power is on. All the lights are on. I am using a PC
power
> supply
>> > > > through a LM317 regulator, so there shouldn't be
any problems
>> > with
>> > > > current. I measured the current going to the chip
somewhere
> round
>> > > > 50mA when running normally. What does it get up to?
>> > > >
>> > > > The thing that makes me think the pin is at fault is
that it
>> > worked
>> > > > before, then suddenly stopped. Also none of the programs
are
> able
>> > to
>> > > > detect the clock speed of the chip.
>> > > >
>> > > > Is there a way to test the pin? Is there traffic on the
pin
> when
>> > the
>> > > > BDM programmer is disconnected?
>> > > >
>> > > > Nicholas
>> > > >
>> > > > --- In 68HC12@68HC..., "a_ribero"
<a_ribero@y...>
> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Hi Nicholas:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Did you double ckeck the BDM connections. If you
6-pin
>> > connector is
>> > > > > not connected properly, the BDM box won't be
able to
>> > communicate to
>> > > > > the board.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > And just to be sure, is the power supply on?
Sometimes you
> have
>> > to
>> > > > go
>> > > > > to the basics...
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Do you use a Lab power supply? If so, check that
the current
>> > > > > limitation is not too low. Otherwise, there is not
enough
>> > current to
>> > > > > power up the board, therefore, no programming can
happen.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I would the BKDG pin as the last suspect. Most of
the time
>> > there are
>> > > > > other problems that prevent the programming.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Regards,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Alex
>
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>
Reply by zeta_alpha2002●April 7, 20052005-04-07
Too bad. Oh well if you are willing, time to move on get the MCU
remove and replace.
--- In 68HC12@68HC..., "pickleza" <pickleza@y...> wrote: >
> Yip. The RESET line is fine.
>
> 1. Can't unsecure. Unsecure programs can't communicate.
> 2. BDM BKGD line is working. There is traffic on the pin, but it
> looks like there's no reply.
> 3. Oscillator is working. It is buffered on ECLK.
> 4. Reset line is good. Comes down for 200ms or so, then back up.
>
> Nicholas
>
> --- In 68HC12@68HC..., "zeta_alpha2002"
<zeta_alpha2002@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Your tried and check
> > 1. unsecure
> > 2. BDM line
> > 3. Oscillator is oscillating/
> > 4. If RESET is okay then
> >
> > Bad MCU, it got sick and fried.
> >
> >
Reply by pickleza●April 7, 20052005-04-07
Yip. The RESET line is fine.
1. Can't unsecure. Unsecure programs can't communicate.
2. BDM BKGD line is working. There is traffic on the pin, but it
looks like there's no reply.
3. Oscillator is working. It is buffered on ECLK.
4. Reset line is good. Comes down for 200ms or so, then back up.
Nicholas
--- In 68HC12@68HC..., "zeta_alpha2002" <zeta_alpha2002@y...>
wrote: >
> Your tried and check
> 1. unsecure
> 2. BDM line
> 3. Oscillator is oscillating/
> 4. If RESET is okay then
>
> Bad MCU, it got sick and fried.
>
> --- In 68HC12@68HC..., "pickleza" <pickleza@y...> wrote:
> >
> > I thought it might be the oscillator, so thats what I checked first. > > There is clock coming out of the ECLK, so I
think the oscillator is > > working.
> >
> > I will check the RESET line and let you know what I find.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Nicholas
> >
> > --- In 68HC12@68HC..., "zeta_alpha2002" <zeta_alpha2002@y...> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Symptom suggest a reset problem. Check the reset line or the
> > > oscillator not ticking.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In 68HC12@68HC..., "pickleza" <pickleza@y...>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have checked the BDM connections. I checked for traffic on
the > > BKGD
> > > > pin, and its there.
> > > >
> > > > Power is on. All the lights are on. I am using a PC power
supply > > > > through a LM317 regulator, so there
shouldn't be any problems
> > with
> > > > current. I measured the current going to the chip somewhere
round > > > > 50mA when running normally. What
does it get up to?
> > > >
> > > > The thing that makes me think the pin is at fault is that it
> > worked
> > > > before, then suddenly stopped. Also none of the programs are
able > > to
> > > > detect the clock speed of the chip.
> > > >
> > > > Is there a way to test the pin? Is there traffic on the pin
when > > the
> > > > BDM programmer is disconnected?
> > > >
> > > > Nicholas
> > > >
> > > > --- In 68HC12@68HC..., "a_ribero"
<a_ribero@y...> wrote: > > > > >
> > > > > Hi Nicholas:
> > > > >
> > > > > Did you double ckeck the BDM connections. If you 6-pin
> > connector is
> > > > > not connected properly, the BDM box won't be able
to
> > communicate to
> > > > > the board.
> > > > >
> > > > > And just to be sure, is the power supply on? Sometimes
you have > > to
> > > > go
> > > > > to the basics...
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you use a Lab power supply? If so, check that the
current
> > > > > limitation is not too low. Otherwise, there is not
enough
> > current to
> > > > > power up the board, therefore, no programming can
happen.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would the BKDG pin as the last suspect. Most of the
time
> > there are
> > > > > other problems that prevent the programming.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Alex
Reply by zeta_alpha2002●April 7, 20052005-04-07
Your tried and check
1. unsecure
2. BDM line
3. Oscillator is oscillating
4. If RESET is okay then
Bad MCU, it got sick and fried.
--- In 68HC12@68HC..., "pickleza" <pickleza@y...> wrote: >
> I thought it might be the oscillator, so thats what I checked first.
> There is clock coming out of the ECLK, so I think the oscillator is
> working.
>
> I will check the RESET line and let you know what I find.
>
> Thanks
> Nicholas
>
> --- In 68HC12@68HC..., "zeta_alpha2002"
<zeta_alpha2002@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Symptom suggest a reset problem. Check the reset line or the
> > oscillator not ticking.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In 68HC12@68HC..., "pickleza" <pickleza@y...>
wrote:
> > >
> > > I have checked the BDM connections. I checked for traffic on the
> BKGD
> > > pin, and its there.
> > >
> > > Power is on. All the lights are on. I am using a PC power supply
> > > through a LM317 regulator, so there shouldn't be any
problems
> with
> > > current. I measured the current going to the chip somewhere round
> > > 50mA when running normally. What does it get up to?
> > >
> > > The thing that makes me think the pin is at fault is that it
> worked
> > > before, then suddenly stopped. Also none of the programs are able
> to
> > > detect the clock speed of the chip.
> > >
> > > Is there a way to test the pin? Is there traffic on the pin when
> the
> > > BDM programmer is disconnected?
> > >
> > > Nicholas
> > >
> > > --- In 68HC12@68HC..., "a_ribero" <a_ribero@y...>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Nicholas:
> > > >
> > > > Did you double ckeck the BDM connections. If you 6-pin
> connector is
> > > > not connected properly, the BDM box won't be able to
> communicate to
> > > > the board.
> > > >
> > > > And just to be sure, is the power supply on? Sometimes you
have
> to
> > > go
> > > > to the basics...
> > > >
> > > > Do you use a Lab power supply? If so, check that the
current
> > > > limitation is not too low. Otherwise, there is not enough
> current to
> > > > power up the board, therefore, no programming can happen.
> > > >
> > > > I would the BKDG pin as the last suspect. Most of the time
> there are
> > > > other problems that prevent the programming.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Alex
Reply by pickleza●April 7, 20052005-04-07
I thought it might be the oscillator, so thats what I checked first.
There is clock coming out of the ECLK, so I think the oscillator is
working.
I will check the RESET line and let you know what I find.
Thanks
Nicholas
--- In 68HC12@68HC..., "zeta_alpha2002" <zeta_alpha2002@y...>
wrote: >
> Symptom suggest a reset problem. Check the reset line or the
> oscillator not ticking.
>
>
> --- In 68HC12@68HC..., "pickleza" <pickleza@y...> wrote:
> >
> > I have checked the BDM connections. I checked for traffic on the BKGD > > pin, and its there.
> >
> > Power is on. All the lights are on. I am using a PC power supply
> > through a LM317 regulator, so there shouldn't be any problems with > > current. I measured the current going to the
chip somewhere round
> > 50mA when running normally. What does it get up to?
> >
> > The thing that makes me think the pin is at fault is that it worked > > before, then suddenly stopped. Also none of
the programs are able to > > detect the clock speed of the chip.
> >
> > Is there a way to test the pin? Is there traffic on the pin when the > > BDM programmer is disconnected?
> >
> > Nicholas
> >
> > --- In 68HC12@68HC..., "a_ribero" <a_ribero@y...>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Nicholas:
> > >
> > > Did you double ckeck the BDM connections. If you 6-pin connector is > > > not connected properly, the BDM box
won't be able to communicate to > > > the board.
> > >
> > > And just to be sure, is the power supply on? Sometimes you have
to > > go
> > > to the basics...
> > >
> > > Do you use a Lab power supply? If so, check that the current
> > > limitation is not too low. Otherwise, there is not enough current to > > > power up the board, therefore, no
programming can happen.
> > >
> > > I would the BKDG pin as the last suspect. Most of the time there are > > > other problems that prevent the
programming.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Alex
Reply by zeta_alpha2002●April 6, 20052005-04-06
Symptom suggest a reset problem. Check the reset line or the
oscillator not ticking.
--- In 68HC12@68HC..., "pickleza" <pickleza@y...> wrote: >
> I have checked the BDM connections. I checked for traffic on the BKGD
> pin, and its there.
>
> Power is on. All the lights are on. I am using a PC power supply
> through a LM317 regulator, so there shouldn't be any problems with
> current. I measured the current going to the chip somewhere round
> 50mA when running normally. What does it get up to?
>
> The thing that makes me think the pin is at fault is that it worked
> before, then suddenly stopped. Also none of the programs are able to
> detect the clock speed of the chip.
>
> Is there a way to test the pin? Is there traffic on the pin when the
> BDM programmer is disconnected?
>
> Nicholas
>
> --- In 68HC12@68HC..., "a_ribero" <a_ribero@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Nicholas:
> >
> > Did you double ckeck the BDM connections. If you 6-pin connector is
> > not connected properly, the BDM box won't be able to communicate
to
> > the board.
> >
> > And just to be sure, is the power supply on? Sometimes you have to
> go
> > to the basics...
> >
> > Do you use a Lab power supply? If so, check that the current
> > limitation is not too low. Otherwise, there is not enough current
to
> > power up the board, therefore, no programming can happen.
> >
> > I would the BKDG pin as the last suspect. Most of the time there
are
> > other problems that prevent the programming.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Alex