Reply by steve January 22, 20092009-01-22
On Jan 22, 5:04=A0am, Antti <Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 23 2008, 5:13=A0pm, Antti <Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > Hi > > > i have been holding back this information (because of NDA) but it > > seems that digikey doesnt care > > about about NDA as the part is already orderable > > > CMA3000-D01 > > it is now released and all datasheet are freely downloadable > > http://www.vti.fi/en/products/accelerometers/consumer_electronics/cma... > > Antti
Nice, documented very well too, take note of the errata though. Anyone know why the analog only device takes more power then the digital? I can't figure that out.
Reply by Antti January 22, 20092009-01-22
On Dec 23 2008, 5:13=A0pm, Antti <Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi > > i have been holding back this information (because of NDA) but it > seems that digikey doesnt care > about about NDA as the part is already orderable > > CMA3000-D01
it is now released and all datasheet are freely downloadable http://www.vti.fi/en/products/accelerometers/consumer_electronics/cma3000_s= eries/ Antti
Reply by Frank Buss January 4, 20092009-01-04
Antti wrote:

> the SPI interface is done with this board > http://www.microdream-1.com/CPLDStarter.html > > the CPLD is inslot programmable using DS version of Xilinx XSVF > player :)
Nice. http://www.xiltendo.com I wonder why I bought the expensive original Xilinx platform cable :-)
> hum.. you seem to be well informed?
Yes, the concept is the same for many game consoles. Some time ago I've started the Lua Player project for the PSP and the security for the very first PSPs was nearly no security at all, which made it easy to just copy the programs to the memory stick with the integrated USB port from a PC.
> I find the DS the easiest gadget to use, the CPLD board is SO > easy to use and reprogram - no need to fight with impact :)
You are right, I think there is no cheaper development kit for this price with audio IO, two color screens, where one is a touch screen, USB, WLAN, two CPUs, integrated rechargeable battery etc. Maybe I'll try to do some stuff for it when I have more time. Too bad that Nintendo locked it, so you have to hack it. -- Frank Buss, fb@frank-buss.de http://www.frank-buss.de, http://www.it4-systems.de
Reply by steve December 23, 20082008-12-23
On Dec 23, 11:36 am, Antti <Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 23, 9:04 pm, steve <bungalow_st...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > Antti wrote: > > > Hi > > > > i have been holding back this information (because of NDA) but it > > > seems that digikey doesnt care > > > about about NDA as the part is already orderable > > > > CMA3000-D01 > > > >http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts/1621768-accelerometer-3-axis-spi-i2c... > > > > in th NOV issue there is a picture of this sensor (page 18) > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/antti-brain/files?hl=en > > > > it is the same device as introduced in followin PR > > >http://www.vti.fi/en/news-events/press-releases/view/1229408564.html > > > > its really weird, i have been waiting VTI to officially announce this > > > device, so > > > have hold back all our commentary on it, but as the news is LEAKED now > > > by > > > DIGIKEY, so it is now in the wild > > > > we have the device working in one of our prototypes, so i can confirm > > > those > > > devices are real, and they do work. > > > > I will write a little bit about them in our DEC issue. > > > > Antti Lukats > > >www.trioflex.com > > > > PS ST just announced a new 3AXIS MEMS with same power consumption > > > (10uA) > > > The new Analog devices ADXL345 is somewhat similar (25uA instead of > > 10uA and bigger), the low power is achieved only at very low sample > > rates. > > > I can't find the ST version, do you have a link? > > > thanks > > dont be lazyhttp://www.st.com/stonline/products/literature/ds/15101/lis331dlf.pdf >
Oh, the 331 I know about that one, it's 250uA in normal mode. no real power saving there, I was hoping you were referring to a newer model
Reply by Antti December 23, 20082008-12-23
On Dec 23, 9:26=A0pm, Frank Buss <f...@frank-buss.de> wrote:
> Antti wrote: > > CMA3000-D01 > > >http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts/1621768-accelerometer-3-axis-spi-i2c... > > > in th NOV issue there is a picture of this sensor (page 18) > > Nice IC. > > >http://groups.google.com/group/antti-brain/files?hl=3Den > > I like the idea using a Nintendo DS for implementing a SPI test hardware. > Is there any simpler method of hacking this console than buying an old > cartdrige and overwriting the EEPROM? > > -- > Frank Buss, f...@frank-buss.dehttp://www.frank-buss.de,http://www.it4-sys=
tems.de Hi Frannk the SPI interface is done with this board http://www.microdream-1.com/CPLDStarter.html the CPLD is inslot programmable using DS version of Xilinx XSVF player :) hum.. you seem to be well informed? There are 5 DS roms known that have know STACK overflow exploits found that allows the game state eeprom to be written with special code that is executed after being loaded. but those are not old games :) you cant just go and buy any old game it is of no use! For making the slot2 adapters, then well 1.6mm thick PCB is all you need I find the DS the easiest gadget to use, the CPLD board is SO easy to use and reprogram - no need to fight with impact :) and the C library support is superiour, really easy to write hardware related stuff. much more easier than it was in the old days when PCs used to have LPT ports! Antti
Reply by Antti December 23, 20082008-12-23
On Dec 23, 9:04=A0pm, steve <bungalow_st...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Antti wrote: > > Hi > > > i have been holding back this information (because of NDA) but it > > seems that digikey doesnt care > > about about NDA as the part is already orderable > > > CMA3000-D01 > > >http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts/1621768-accelerometer-3-axis-spi-i2c... > > > in th NOV issue there is a picture of this sensor (page 18) > > >http://groups.google.com/group/antti-brain/files?hl=3Den > > > it is the same device as introduced in followin PR > >http://www.vti.fi/en/news-events/press-releases/view/1229408564.html > > > its really weird, i have been waiting VTI to officially announce this > > device, so > > have hold back all our commentary on it, but as the news is LEAKED now > > by > > DIGIKEY, so it is now in the wild > > > we have the device working in one of our prototypes, so i can confirm > > those > > devices are real, and they do work. > > > I will write a little bit about them in our DEC issue. > > > Antti Lukats > >www.trioflex.com > > > PS ST just announced a new 3AXIS MEMS with same power consumption > > (10uA) > > The new Analog devices ADXL345 is somewhat similar (25uA instead of > 10uA and bigger), the low power is achieved only at very low sample > rates. > > I can't find the ST version, do you have a link? > > thanks
dont be lazy http://www.st.com/stonline/products/literature/ds/15101/lis331dlf.pdf Antti PS at electronica ADI/ST/Freescale all promised new 3 axis sensors before/at end of 2008 ST is now out, it seems ADI, need check freescale, they should also have new stuff
Reply by Frank Buss December 23, 20082008-12-23
Antti wrote:

> CMA3000-D01 > > http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts/1621768-accelerometer-3-axis-spi-i2c-smd-cma3000-d01.html > > in th NOV issue there is a picture of this sensor (page 18)
Nice IC.
> http://groups.google.com/group/antti-brain/files?hl=en
I like the idea using a Nintendo DS for implementing a SPI test hardware. Is there any simpler method of hacking this console than buying an old cartdrige and overwriting the EEPROM? -- Frank Buss, fb@frank-buss.de http://www.frank-buss.de, http://www.it4-systems.de
Reply by steve December 23, 20082008-12-23

Antti wrote:
> Hi > > i have been holding back this information (because of NDA) but it > seems that digikey doesnt care > about about NDA as the part is already orderable > > CMA3000-D01 > > http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts/1621768-accelerometer-3-axis-spi-i2c-smd-cma3000-d01.html > > in th NOV issue there is a picture of this sensor (page 18) > > http://groups.google.com/group/antti-brain/files?hl=en > > it is the same device as introduced in followin PR > http://www.vti.fi/en/news-events/press-releases/view/1229408564.html > > its really weird, i have been waiting VTI to officially announce this > device, so > have hold back all our commentary on it, but as the news is LEAKED now > by > DIGIKEY, so it is now in the wild > > we have the device working in one of our prototypes, so i can confirm > those > devices are real, and they do work. > > I will write a little bit about them in our DEC issue. > > Antti Lukats > www.trioflex.com > > PS ST just announced a new 3AXIS MEMS with same power consumption > (10uA)
The new Analog devices ADXL345 is somewhat similar (25uA instead of 10uA and bigger), the low power is achieved only at very low sample rates. I can't find the ST version, do you have a link? thanks
Reply by Antti December 23, 20082008-12-23
On Dec 23, 6:59=A0pm, Mark Borgerson <mborger...@comcast.net> wrote:
> In article <880dbea9-2d2e-4b3c-ac76-fa48efdfed04 > @x16g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, m...@linnix.info-for.us says... > > > On Dec 23, 7:17 am, Antti <Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > On Dec 23, 5:13 pm, Antti <Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > > > i have been holding back this information (because of NDA) but it > > > > seems that digikey doesnt care > > > > about about NDA as the part is already orderable > > > > > CMA3000-D01 > > > > >http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts/1621768-accelerometer-3-axis-spi-i2=
c...
> > > > > in th NOV issue there is a picture of this sensor (page 18) > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/antti-brain/files?hl=3Den > > > > > it is the same device as introduced in followin PRhttp://www.vti.fi=
/en/news-events/press-releases/view/1229408564.html
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> > > > device, so > > > > have hold back all our commentary on it, but as the news is LEAKED =
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> > > > by > > > > DIGIKEY, so it is now in the wild > > > > > we have the device working in one of our prototypes, so i can confi=
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> > > > those > > > > devices are real, and they do work. > > > > > I will write a little bit about them in our DEC issue. > > > > > Antti Lukatswww.trioflex.com > > > > > PS ST just announced a new 3AXIS MEMS with same power consumption > > > > (10uA) > > > > I still can not belive it DK has the VTI "CONFIDENTIAL" datasheet > > > online, > > > get it here > > > >http://media.digikey.com/pdf/Data%20Sheets/VTI%20Technologies%20PDFs/.=
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> > > > Antti > > > $15 price range is not cheap. =A0Are you able to get better pricing wit=
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> > volume? > > The other downside is the BGA packaging. =A0That will make integration > into prototypes more difficult for those of us still building boards > by hand soldering. > > Someone needs to market a small stamped lead frame for packages like > this. =A0You would lay the chip on its back and solder the individual > leads to the BGA solder balls (or contacts on a QFN package). =A0You > would then either snip the lead frame or remove the adhesive backing > and solder the leads down to the pads on your PCB. > > Mark Borgerson
i uploaded a picture of working prototype with cma3000 http://groups.google.com/group/antti-brain/files?hl=3Den this is shot of very first test, the c program overwrites screen without clearing background so the numbers look bad Antti
Reply by Antti December 23, 20082008-12-23
On Dec 23, 6:59=A0pm, Mark Borgerson <mborger...@comcast.net> wrote:
> In article <880dbea9-2d2e-4b3c-ac76-fa48efdfed04 > @x16g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, m...@linnix.info-for.us says... > > > On Dec 23, 7:17 am, Antti <Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > On Dec 23, 5:13 pm, Antti <Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > > > i have been holding back this information (because of NDA) but it > > > > seems that digikey doesnt care > > > > about about NDA as the part is already orderable > > > > > CMA3000-D01 > > > > >http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts/1621768-accelerometer-3-axis-spi-i2=
c...
> > > > > in th NOV issue there is a picture of this sensor (page 18) > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/antti-brain/files?hl=3Den > > > > > it is the same device as introduced in followin PRhttp://www.vti.fi=
/en/news-events/press-releases/view/1229408564.html
> > > > > its really weird, i have been waiting VTI to officially announce th=
is
> > > > device, so > > > > have hold back all our commentary on it, but as the news is LEAKED =
now
> > > > by > > > > DIGIKEY, so it is now in the wild > > > > > we have the device working in one of our prototypes, so i can confi=
rm
> > > > those > > > > devices are real, and they do work. > > > > > I will write a little bit about them in our DEC issue. > > > > > Antti Lukatswww.trioflex.com > > > > > PS ST just announced a new 3AXIS MEMS with same power consumption > > > > (10uA) > > > > I still can not belive it DK has the VTI "CONFIDENTIAL" datasheet > > > online, > > > get it here > > > >http://media.digikey.com/pdf/Data%20Sheets/VTI%20Technologies%20PDFs/.=
..
> > > > Antti > > > $15 price range is not cheap. =A0Are you able to get better pricing wit=
h
> > volume? > > The other downside is the BGA packaging. =A0That will make integration > into prototypes more difficult for those of us still building boards > by hand soldering. > > Someone needs to market a small stamped lead frame for packages like > this. =A0You would lay the chip on its back and solder the individual > leads to the BGA solder balls (or contacts on a QFN package). =A0You > would then either snip the lead frame or remove the adhesive backing > and solder the leads down to the pads on your PCB. > > Mark Borgerson
we are going to supply adapter PCBs soon probably before the ICs become available :) the BGA8 is actually not hard to solder to correctly designed land if you read our NOV issue there is a picture of CMA3000 soldered to simple break out board funnily, not only Digikey has LEAKED the NDA only datasheets but also one russian company http://airborn.ru/news/accelerometer_cma3000/ they even have some example C code examples online :) Antti www.trioflex.com