>> Isn't the Atom X86?
>
> Wasn't "Atom" a very early Acorn product?
Yep; that was my first computer. 1MHz 6502, 12K ROM, 12K RAM (24 x 2114s;
you could piggyback an extra pair to get 13K). 4 "colours" (black, white,
2 identical shades of grey; actual colour cost extra).
The successor was originally going to be called the Proton, but it ended
up as the BBC Micro. A cut-down version (sans Teletext chip) was sold as
the Electron.
Reply by Alun●June 19, 20092009-06-19
"Rumpy" <rumpy@abc.biz> wrote in message news:h1f65s$o0s$1@aioe.org...
>
> Isn't the Atom X86?
Wasn't "Atom" a very early Acorn product?
Reply by Rumpy●June 19, 20092009-06-19
Not Really Me wrote:
> David Kelly wrote:
>> FreeRTOS.org wrote:
>>> "Non scrivetemi" <nonscrivetemi@pboxmix.winstonsmith.info> wrote in
>>> message
>>> news:c7db507176a8ce1b01bdf749a740ef66@pboxmix.winstonsmith.info...
>>>> http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6188471898.html
>>>>
>>>> What is Intel up to buying Wind River Systems? Saying 'from now on
>>>> vxWorks will only run on Intel x86 processors' will simply kill the
>>>> business, so that's not really an option. And since most embedded
>>>> system OEM's are switching towards ARM I don't see the logic behind
>>>> this move. Anyone willing to make a guess?
>>> I think "OEMs are switching towards ARM" may be the point.
>> Why? Intel makes ARM CPUs.
>>
>> However, if Intel wishes to make inroads in the ARM market then Intel
>> needs to make sure there are development systems, run time support,
>> and libraries for Intel products. If one owns a successful source of
>> software support then one can prioritize support for one's new
>> hardware over competitor's new hardware.
>>
>> Purchase of Wind River might indicate *more* Intel ARM activity.
>
> It's all about the Atom, handsets and other very high volume appliances. I
> wouldn't be surprized to see Intel/WRS abandon all non-X86 activity. Intel
> sells silicon not software.
Isn't the Atom X86?
Reply by Not Really Me●June 8, 20092009-06-08
David Kelly wrote:
> FreeRTOS.org wrote:
>> "Non scrivetemi" <nonscrivetemi@pboxmix.winstonsmith.info> wrote in
>> message
>> news:c7db507176a8ce1b01bdf749a740ef66@pboxmix.winstonsmith.info...
>>> http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6188471898.html
>>>
>>> What is Intel up to buying Wind River Systems? Saying 'from now on
>>> vxWorks will only run on Intel x86 processors' will simply kill the
>>> business, so that's not really an option. And since most embedded
>>> system OEM's are switching towards ARM I don't see the logic behind
>>> this move. Anyone willing to make a guess?
>>
>> I think "OEMs are switching towards ARM" may be the point.
>
> Why? Intel makes ARM CPUs.
>
> However, if Intel wishes to make inroads in the ARM market then Intel
> needs to make sure there are development systems, run time support,
> and libraries for Intel products. If one owns a successful source of
> software support then one can prioritize support for one's new
> hardware over competitor's new hardware.
>
> Purchase of Wind River might indicate *more* Intel ARM activity.
It's all about the Atom, handsets and other very high volume appliances. I
wouldn't be surprized to see Intel/WRS abandon all non-X86 activity. Intel
sells silicon not software.
--
Scott
Validated Software
Lafayette, CO
Reply by Grant Edwards●June 5, 20092009-06-05
On 2009-06-05, David Kelly <n4hhe@Yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I think "OEMs are switching towards ARM" may be the point.
>
> Why? Intel makes ARM CPUs.
Not really. They sold off most of the strongARM/XScale product
lines. All that's left are whats remaining of the old iXP4xx
products aimed at network products -- and those are pretty much
orphaned as far as I can tell.
> However, if Intel wishes to make inroads in the ARM market
> then Intel needs to make sure there are development systems,
> run time support, and libraries for Intel products. If one
> owns a successful source of software support then one can
> prioritize support for one's new hardware over competitor's
> new hardware.
>
> Purchase of Wind River might indicate *more* Intel ARM
> activity.
I doubt it. Intel hasn't introduced any new ARM-based product
families in a decade. The iXP4xx stuff is so well hidden at
the Intel web site that you can't find it unless you know ahead
of time what you're looking for.
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! ... the HIGHWAY is
at made out of LIME JELLO and
visi.com my HONDA is a barbequeued
OYSTER! Yum!
Reply by -jg●June 5, 20092009-06-05
On Jun 6, 5:45=A0am, "Non scrivetemi"
<nonscrivet...@pboxmix.winstonsmith.info> wrote:
s will only run on Intel x86 processors' will simply kill the business, so =
that's not really an option. And since most embedded system OEM's are switc=
hing towards ARM I don't see the logic behind this move.
>
> Anyone willing to make a guess?
Easy. They get a customer list, and a handle on new developments, and
can tailor new ATOM (etc) variants to hit any significant market sweet
spots.
Plus, intel can more easily morph into mutliple cores etc, so they
can
tailor the SW to better match the cores they do offer.
fanless embedded is an area intel has essentially been away from for
some years.
-jg
Reply by David Kelly●June 5, 20092009-06-05
FreeRTOS.org wrote:
> "Non scrivetemi" <nonscrivetemi@pboxmix.winstonsmith.info> wrote in message
> news:c7db507176a8ce1b01bdf749a740ef66@pboxmix.winstonsmith.info...
>> http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6188471898.html
>>
>> What is Intel up to buying Wind River Systems? Saying 'from now on vxWorks
>> will only run on Intel x86 processors' will simply kill the business, so
>> that's not really an option. And since most embedded system OEM's are
>> switching towards ARM I don't see the logic behind this move.
>>
>> Anyone willing to make a guess?
>
> I think "OEMs are switching towards ARM" may be the point.
Why? Intel makes ARM CPUs.
However, if Intel wishes to make inroads in the ARM market then Intel
needs to make sure there are development systems, run time support, and
libraries for Intel products. If one owns a successful source of
software support then one can prioritize support for one's new hardware
over competitor's new hardware.
Purchase of Wind River might indicate *more* Intel ARM activity.
Reply by FreeRTOS.org●June 5, 20092009-06-05
"Non scrivetemi" <nonscrivetemi@pboxmix.winstonsmith.info> wrote in message
news:c7db507176a8ce1b01bdf749a740ef66@pboxmix.winstonsmith.info...
> http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6188471898.html
>
> What is Intel up to buying Wind River Systems? Saying 'from now on vxWorks
> will only run on Intel x86 processors' will simply kill the business, so
> that's not really an option. And since most embedded system OEM's are
> switching towards ARM I don't see the logic behind this move.
>
> Anyone willing to make a guess?
I think "OEMs are switching towards ARM" may be the point.
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Reply by Non scrivetemi●June 5, 20092009-06-05
http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6188471898.html
What is Intel up to buying Wind River Systems? Saying 'from now on vxWorks will only run on Intel x86 processors' will simply kill the business, so that's not really an option. And since most embedded system OEM's are switching towards ARM I don't see the logic behind this move.
Anyone willing to make a guess?