On Sep 14, 9:52=A0am, Frank-Christian Kr=FCgel <dontmai...@news.invalid>
wrote:
> Leon schrieb:
>
> > of samples. Another problem is programming them; I don't think they
> > are supported by any of the standard programming devices like the
> > Dragon.
>
> The PDI interface is the same you find on the XMEGA series. Newer
> JTAGMKII and ISPMKII can program them.
>
> --
> Mit freundlichen Gr=FC=DFen
>
> Frank-Christian Kr=FCgel

yes, the TPI is very similar to PDI used in Xmega
well it using 3 pins not 2 as PDI, but the physical layer
and protocol are very similar

Anti

Leon schrieb:

> of samples. Another problem is programming them; I don't think they
> are supported by any of the standard programming devices like the
> Dragon.

The PDI interface is the same you find on the XMEGA series. Newer 
JTAGMKII and ISPMKII can program them.

-- 
Mit freundlichen Gr&#4294967295;&#4294967295;en

Frank-Christian Kr&#4294967295;gel

On Sep 13, 10:35=A0pm, Leon <leon...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> On 13 Sep, 16:08, "Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com"
>
>
>
> <antti.luk...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > On Sep 12, 12:19=A0pm, Ulf Samuelsson <u...@atmel.com> wrote:
>
> > > Antti skrev:> Hi
>
> > > > everybody any luck getting them?
> > > > no disti has stock, and Atmel sample order just doenst respond to
> > > > requests :(
>
> > > You should forget ordering samples on any Atmel webpage.
> > > You need to order samples through a local distributor.
>
> > > I can see that the first ATtiny10-THSR sample ordered in
> > > the Nordic area was shipped mid-June, so they should
> > > be available.
>
> > > Production volume is different.
> > > 5000 units seems to be a lot.
> > > Maybe it is delivered in tape & reel and that is the
> > > size of a tape.
> > > Not sure what the Minimum Order Quantity is, but
> > > If I'd have a guess, then it is $500 and that means
> > > 1-2000 units.
>
> > > I just ordered some ATtiny10's to test availability.
>
> > > BR
> > > Ulf Samuelsson
>
> > > > Antti
>
> > Ulf,
>
> > do you know if there is a sample of T10 included with the
>
> >http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/tools_card.asp?tool_id=3D4628
>
> > tiny10 package adapter? it is in stock at digikey, so i am ready
> > to buy that just to get one sample..
>
> > Antti
>
> One or two people on the AVR Freaks forum have reported getting hold
> of samples. Another problem is programming them; I don't think they
> are supported by any of the standard programming devices like the
> Dragon.
>
> Leon

i am able to develop my own programming algorithm for ATtiny10
withing limited number of hours
the lack of tools is no concern for me, has never been

Antti

On 13 Sep, 16:08, "Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com"
<antti.luk...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 12, 12:19=A0pm, Ulf Samuelsson <u...@atmel.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Antti skrev:> Hi
>
> > > everybody any luck getting them?
> > > no disti has stock, and Atmel sample order just doenst respond to
> > > requests :(
>
> > You should forget ordering samples on any Atmel webpage.
> > You need to order samples through a local distributor.
>
> > I can see that the first ATtiny10-THSR sample ordered in
> > the Nordic area was shipped mid-June, so they should
> > be available.
>
> > Production volume is different.
> > 5000 units seems to be a lot.
> > Maybe it is delivered in tape & reel and that is the
> > size of a tape.
> > Not sure what the Minimum Order Quantity is, but
> > If I'd have a guess, then it is $500 and that means
> > 1-2000 units.
>
> > I just ordered some ATtiny10's to test availability.
>
> > BR
> > Ulf Samuelsson
>
> > > Antti
>
> Ulf,
>
> do you know if there is a sample of T10 included with the
>
> http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/tools_card.asp?tool_id=3D4628
>
> tiny10 package adapter? it is in stock at digikey, so i am ready
> to buy that just to get one sample..
>
> Antti

One or two people on the AVR Freaks forum have reported getting hold
of samples. Another problem is programming them; I don't think they
are supported by any of the standard programming devices like the
Dragon.

Leon

On Sep 12, 12:19=A0pm, Ulf Samuelsson <u...@atmel.com> wrote:
> Antti skrev:> Hi
>
> > everybody any luck getting them?
> > no disti has stock, and Atmel sample order just doenst respond to
> > requests :(
>
> You should forget ordering samples on any Atmel webpage.
> You need to order samples through a local distributor.
>
> I can see that the first ATtiny10-THSR sample ordered in
> the Nordic area was shipped mid-June, so they should
> be available.
>
> Production volume is different.
> 5000 units seems to be a lot.
> Maybe it is delivered in tape & reel and that is the
> size of a tape.
> Not sure what the Minimum Order Quantity is, but
> If I'd have a guess, then it is $500 and that means
> 1-2000 units.
>
> I just ordered some ATtiny10's to test availability.
>
> BR
> Ulf Samuelsson
>
> > Antti

Ulf,

do you know if there is a sample of T10 included with the

http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/tools_card.asp?tool_id=3D4628

tiny10 package adapter? it is in stock at digikey, so i am ready
to buy that just to get one sample..


Antti

Antti skrev:
> Hi
> 
> everybody any luck getting them?
> no disti has stock, and Atmel sample order just doenst respond to
> requests :(
> 
You should forget ordering samples on any Atmel webpage.
You need to order samples through a local distributor.

I can see that the first ATtiny10-THSR sample ordered in
the Nordic area was shipped mid-June, so they should
be available.

Production volume is different.
5000 units seems to be a lot.
Maybe it is delivered in tape & reel and that is the
size of a tape.
Not sure what the Minimum Order Quantity is, but
If I'd have a guess, then it is $500 and that means
1-2000 units.

I just ordered some ATtiny10's to test availability.

BR
Ulf Samuelsson



> Antti

Antti skrev:
> Hi
> 
> everybody any luck getting them?
> no disti has stock, and Atmel sample order just doenst respond to
> requests :(
> 
You should forget ordering samples on any Atmel webpage.
You need to order samples through a local distributor.

I can see that the first ATtiny10-THSR sample ordered in
the Nordic area was shipped mid-June, so they should
be available.

Production volume is different.
5000 units seems to be a lot.
Maybe it is delivered in tape & reel and that is the
size of a tape.
Not sure what the Minimum Order Quantity is, but
If I'd have a guess, then it is $500 and that means
1-2000 units.

I just ordered some ATtiny10's to test availability.

BR
Ulf Samuelsson



> Antti

On Sep 4, 9:33=A0pm, "Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com"
<antti.luk...@googlemail.com> >
> Antti
> jg you did refer to 128ms Tout, right?

IIRC when we looked at this device, the reset-startup time was fixed,
and
very long, so that killed it for one application we had.
Maybe Atmel will fix this on a newer mask. At least make it user-
choice.
-jg

On Sep 4, 4:41=A0pm, larwe <zwsdot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 4, 7:00=A0am, "Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com" :
>
>
>
> > I DO NOT LIKE HIGH VOLTAGE programming IC's (6 pin PICs all are..)
>
> Fair enough. MSP430F2001, $0.39 in sufficient quantity...

MSP430F2001 QFN16 but 4x4 mm !! :(
ATtiny13A 3x3 mm + has self programming capability price about the
same

Antti