On Dec 24 2009, 2:59=A0am, "eng_basemm" <eng_bas...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> No , of course what i asked about is how can i secure my code on non
> protected ARM 9 core ??? =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0

You cannot. Anything you can engineer, can be reverse-engineered. The
only question is will anybody bother to reverse-engineer your widget
when it is cheaper to pay some guy in China to make a functional
clone.

> No , of course what i asked about is how can i secure my code on non
> protected ARM 9 core ???
And even if you manage to do so and secure YOUR code that YOU think it is 
safe and private enough, it is the utmost challenge for geeks like me to 
untangle the code you wrote and make it public to show how can it be unsafe.
Someone likes cross-words, I like cross-reverse-engineering.

-- 
StoneThrower 

>
>Let me see if I understand:  You want the community to help you find
>the part and make the design, and when you're done you want to make
>sure that nobody can do what you do?
>
>AL
>

No , of course what i asked about is how can i secure my code on non
protected ARM 9 core ???	   
					
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On Dec 23, 12:20=A0am, "eng_basemm" <eng_bas...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> And i have another question , now if i make design based on this processo=
r
> what are the chance to get my firmware inside ARM9 processor (it is now
> public resource all knows its specifications , pins ,... etc)?? and how c=
an
> i secure my code not to be taken from my design and even if it have been
> taken can not be reversed ??
>

Let me see if I understand:  You want the community to help you find
the part and make the design, and when you're done you want to make
sure that nobody can do what you do?

AL

eng_basemm skrev:
>> eng_basemm skrev:
>>>> Qualcomm wants to vet you before they give you any information, and
> they 
>>>> probably only want a few big customers.
>>>  
>>>
>>> So , is there any integrated solutions that deal with the too small
>>> customers ??	   
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>> You can get a Telit GPRS module with built in ARM9 application processor 
>> (AT91SAM9260)
> 
> 
> Thank you Mr , Ulf Samuelsson i have just been choosing this module and
> reading its datasheet , it is really seems to be very powerful module and
> the ARM 9 processor has a lot of peripherals .
> 
> And i have another question , now if i make design based on this processor
> what are the chance to get my firmware inside ARM9 processor (it is now
> public resource all knows its specifications , pins ,... etc)?? and how can
> i secure my code not to be taken from my design and even if it have been
> taken can not be reversed ??
> 

Those questions you have to ask to Telit.

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Ulf Samuelsson
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or may not be shared by my employer Atmel Nordic AB

>eng_basemm skrev:
>>> Qualcomm wants to vet you before they give you any information, and
they 
>>> probably only want a few big customers.
>>  
>> 
>> So , is there any integrated solutions that deal with the too small
>> customers ??	   
>> 					
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>> This message was sent using the comp.arch.embedded web interface on
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>
>You can get a Telit GPRS module with built in ARM9 application processor 
>(AT91SAM9260)


Thank you Mr , Ulf Samuelsson i have just been choosing this module and
reading its datasheet , it is really seems to be very powerful module and
the ARM 9 processor has a lot of peripherals .

And i have another question , now if i make design based on this processor
what are the chance to get my firmware inside ARM9 processor (it is now
public resource all knows its specifications , pins ,... etc)?? and how can
i secure my code not to be taken from my design and even if it have been
taken can not be reversed ??

Thank you for your replying	   
					
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eng_basemm skrev:
>> Qualcomm wants to vet you before they give you any information, and they 
>> probably only want a few big customers.
>  
> 
> So , is there any integrated solutions that deal with the too small
> customers ??	   
> 					
> ---------------------------------------		
> This message was sent using the comp.arch.embedded web interface on
> http://www.EmbeddedRelated.com

You can get a Telit GPRS module with built in ARM9 application processor 
(AT91SAM9260)


-- 
Best Regards
Ulf Samuelsson
These are my own personal opinions, which may
or may not be shared by my employer Atmel Nordic AB

eng_basemm skrev:
>> Qualcomm wants to vet you before they give you any information, and they 
>> probably only want a few big customers.
>  
> 
> So , is there any integrated solutions that deal with the too small
> customers ??	   
> 					
> ---------------------------------------		
> This message was sent using the comp.arch.embedded web interface on
> http://www.EmbeddedRelated.com


You can get a Telit GPRS module with built in ARM9 application processor 
(AT91SAM9260)


-- 
Best Regards
Ulf Samuelsson
These are my own personal opinions, which may
or may not be shared by my employer Atmel Nordic AB

On Dec 22, 4:45=A0am, "eng_basemm" <eng_bas...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Qualcomm wants to vet you before they give you any information, and they
> >probably only want a few big customers.
>
> So , is there any integrated solutions that deal with the too small
> customers ?? =A0 =A0 =A0

Not really. "Too small customers" do not design custom cellphones,
period. The cost of developing, testing and type-approving the design
is very large. The minimum investment required is in the $1E5 order of
magnitude to develop and field a new design.

For vertical market requirements that rely on special application
software, your best approach is to select an OEM-available canned
hardware solution and develop your app inside the app sandbox provided
by the off-the-shelf solution. (iPhone, Android, etc).

>Qualcomm wants to vet you before they give you any information, and they 
>probably only want a few big customers.
 

So , is there any integrated solutions that deal with the too small
customers ??	   
					
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