It looks like Raisonance is coming out with a similar product similar
to the Primer 2 but improved as follows:
* Hardware accept processor daughter card and may be STM32 or STM8.
* Larger screen.
It apparently still has the IO header. I am considering getting one
of these when available. Hopefully they will be similarly affordable
to the Primer 2. See link below for details.
http://www.raisonance.com/~open4-primer-for-stm32e__microcontrollers__produ=
ct~product__T017:4hpkyykjl1si.html
On Mar 21, 10:00=A0am, John <johnsot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I bought a Primer2. =A0Had a HW problem, and returned it. =A0I have a
> second unit also with a hardware problem. =A0I am going to try to return
> the second unit as well. =A0The Primer2 appears to be a wonderful
> concept. =A0However, I personally had bad luck with it. =A0At least for
> now, I am looking into other alternative.
>
> John
>
> On Mar 3, 8:49=A0am, John <johnsot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thank you for your input. =A0I order a Primer2. =A0 =A0I looks like it =
has a
> > 20 pin connector that exports configurable IO pins. =A0Mores
> > specifically it appears certain pins can be configured for A/D/ CAN/
> > digital input and output, etc.. =A0It also appears the kit can be
> > upgraded to use the professional license which removes the 32 K debug
> > limitation.
>
> > Originally I was not looking for its built in UI features, but they
> > will also be very handy for my project.
>
> > My hope is to have something that I can immediately use without
> > writing a CStart etc, and that also can be used as a controller for
> > external HW.
>
> > John
> > On Feb 28, 1:15=A0pm, An Schwob in the USA <schwo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 28, 8:16=A0am, John <jdsot...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I am looking for a low cost platform for homeCortexM3 development.
> > > > My main mandatory requirements are:
>
> > > > 1. =A0Under $250 total cost.
> > > > 2. =A0C Demo code exists that will work out of the box. (I see some
> > > > systems where many bugs need to be overcome to get a simple demo
> > > > application to work.
> > > > 3. =A0Out of the box support for C.(Working C-Start / ctr0 that cle=
ar
> > > > and initialises data are required by C, initialises interrupts, and
> > > > calls main.
> > > > 4. =A0Uses Thumb2 instruction set. (I understandCortexM3 uses this =
set
> > > > and is easier to use than legacy ARM).
> > > > 5. =A0No tools code size limitations. =A0(Some evaluation board kit=
s come
> > > > with code size limits either for build chain or debugger).
> > > > 6. =A0>=3D ADC inputs, 8 digital inputs, 8 digital outputs
>
> > > > Optional Requirements:
> > > > 1. =A0C++ support out of the box.
> > > > 2. =A0Existing support for On-Board peripherals.
> > > > 3. =A0Out of the box support for RS232 printf.
> > > > 4. =A0Flash >=3D 128K
> > > > 5. =A0RAM >=3D 32 K (I want to use an RTOS.
> > > > 4. =A0HW debugger.
>
> > > > I realize this is a really touch set of requirements to meet.
>
> > > > I am an embedded developer who has focused mostly on embedded
> > > > applications code (not much BSP). =A0Does anyone have experience wi=
th
> > > > the Olimex STM32-P103 or Olimex STM32-H103. =A0How about OpenOCD an=
d the
> > > > Olimex debug hardware?
>
> > > > JohnSotack
>
> > > Well, all your requirements are actually easy to achieve except for
> > > the unlimited compiler. If you would like to have professional tools
> > > the unlimited C-Compilers / Debuggers start around $1k and can easily
> > > hit the $5 level.
>
> > > My recommendation would be the Primer2 Pro. It is a nice evaluation
> > > kit, uses the STM32F103, provides tons of reference Software and the
> > > Pro version has no code limitations.
> > > You can check it out here:http://mcu-related.com/architectures/35-cor=
tex-m3/59-stm32-primer2-st......
>
> > > Has just been awarded with EETIMEs product of the year awardhttp://ww=
w.mcu-raisonance.com/primer2-eetimes.html
>
> > > Cheers,
> > > An Schwob
Reply by John●March 21, 20102010-03-21
I bought a Primer2. Had a HW problem, and returned it. I have a
second unit also with a hardware problem. I am going to try to return
the second unit as well. The Primer2 appears to be a wonderful
concept. However, I personally had bad luck with it. At least for
now, I am looking into other alternative.
John
On Mar 3, 8:49=A0am, John <johnsot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you for your input. =A0I order a Primer2. =A0 =A0I looks like it ha=
s a
> 20 pin connector that exports configurable IO pins. =A0Mores
> specifically it appears certain pins can be configured for A/D/ CAN/
> digital input and output, etc.. =A0It also appears the kit can be
> upgraded to use the professional license which removes the 32 K debug
> limitation.
>
> Originally I was not looking for its built in UI features, but they
> will also be very handy for my project.
>
> My hope is to have something that I can immediately use without
> writing a CStart etc, and that also can be used as a controller for
> external HW.
>
> John
> On Feb 28, 1:15=A0pm, An Schwob in the USA <schwo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 28, 8:16=A0am, John <jdsot...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > > I am looking for a low cost platform for homeCortexM3 development.
> > > My main mandatory requirements are:
>
> > > 1. =A0Under $250 total cost.
> > > 2. =A0C Demo code exists that will work out of the box. (I see some
> > > systems where many bugs need to be overcome to get a simple demo
> > > application to work.
> > > 3. =A0Out of the box support for C.(Working C-Start / ctr0 that clear
> > > and initialises data are required by C, initialises interrupts, and
> > > calls main.
> > > 4. =A0Uses Thumb2 instruction set. (I understandCortexM3 uses this se=
t
> > > and is easier to use than legacy ARM).
> > > 5. =A0No tools code size limitations. =A0(Some evaluation board kits =
come
> > > with code size limits either for build chain or debugger).
> > > 6. =A0>=3D ADC inputs, 8 digital inputs, 8 digital outputs
>
> > > Optional Requirements:
> > > 1. =A0C++ support out of the box.
> > > 2. =A0Existing support for On-Board peripherals.
> > > 3. =A0Out of the box support for RS232 printf.
> > > 4. =A0Flash >=3D 128K
> > > 5. =A0RAM >=3D 32 K (I want to use an RTOS.
> > > 4. =A0HW debugger.
>
> > > I realize this is a really touch set of requirements to meet.
>
> > > I am an embedded developer who has focused mostly on embedded
> > > applications code (not much BSP). =A0Does anyone have experience with
> > > the Olimex STM32-P103 or Olimex STM32-H103. =A0How about OpenOCD and =
the
> > > Olimex debug hardware?
>
> > > JohnSotack
>
> > Well, all your requirements are actually easy to achieve except for
> > the unlimited compiler. If you would like to have professional tools
> > the unlimited C-Compilers / Debuggers start around $1k and can easily
> > hit the $5 level.
>
> > My recommendation would be the Primer2 Pro. It is a nice evaluation
> > kit, uses the STM32F103, provides tons of reference Software and the
> > Pro version has no code limitations.
> > You can check it out here:http://mcu-related.com/architectures/35-corte=
x-m3/59-stm32-primer2-st......
>
> > Has just been awarded with EETIMEs product of the year awardhttp://www.=
mcu-raisonance.com/primer2-eetimes.html
>
> > Cheers,
> > An Schwob
Reply by John●March 3, 20102010-03-03
Thank you for your input. I order a Primer2. I looks like it has a
20 pin connector that exports configurable IO pins. Mores
specifically it appears certain pins can be configured for A/D/ CAN/
digital input and output, etc.. It also appears the kit can be
upgraded to use the professional license which removes the 32 K debug
limitation.
Originally I was not looking for its built in UI features, but they
will also be very handy for my project.
My hope is to have something that I can immediately use without
writing a CStart etc, and that also can be used as a controller for
external HW.
John
On Feb 28, 1:15=A0pm, An Schwob in the USA <schwo...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Feb 28, 8:16=A0am, John <jdsot...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I am looking for a low cost platform for home Cortex M3 development.
> > My main mandatory requirements are:
>
> > 1. =A0Under $250 total cost.
> > 2. =A0C Demo code exists that will work out of the box. (I see some
> > systems where many bugs need to be overcome to get a simple demo
> > application to work.
> > 3. =A0Out of the box support for C.(Working C-Start / ctr0 that clear
> > and initialises data are required by C, initialises interrupts, and
> > calls main.
> > 4. =A0Uses Thumb2 instruction set. (I understand Cortex M3 uses this se=
t
> > and is easier to use than legacy ARM).
> > 5. =A0No tools code size limitations. =A0(Some evaluation board kits co=
me
> > with code size limits either for build chain or debugger).
> > 6. =A0>=3D ADC inputs, 8 digital inputs, 8 digital outputs
>
> > Optional Requirements:
> > 1. =A0C++ support out of the box.
> > 2. =A0Existing support for On-Board peripherals.
> > 3. =A0Out of the box support for RS232 printf.
> > 4. =A0Flash >=3D 128K
> > 5. =A0RAM >=3D 32 K (I want to use an RTOS.
> > 4. =A0HW debugger.
>
> > I realize this is a really touch set of requirements to meet.
>
> > I am an embedded developer who has focused mostly on embedded
> > applications code (not much BSP). =A0Does anyone have experience with
> > the Olimex STM32-P103 or Olimex STM32-H103. =A0How about OpenOCD and th=
e
> > Olimex debug hardware?
>
> > John Sotack
>
> Well, all your requirements are actually easy to achieve except for
> the unlimited compiler. If you would like to have professional tools
> the unlimited C-Compilers / Debuggers start around $1k and can easily
> hit the $5 level.
>
> My recommendation would be the Primer2 Pro. It is a nice evaluation
> kit, uses the STM32F103, provides tons of reference Software and the
> Pro version has no code limitations.
> You can check it out here:http://mcu-related.com/architectures/35-cortex-=
>
> Has just been awarded with EETIMEs product of the year awardhttp://www.mc=
u-raisonance.com/primer2-eetimes.html
>
> Cheers,
> An Schwob
Reply by Dombo●March 1, 20102010-03-01
Bruno Richard schreef:
> On Feb 28, 5:16 pm, John <jdsot...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>> I am looking for a low cost platform for home Cortex M3 development.
>> My main mandatory requirements are:
>>
>> 1. Under $250 total cost.
>> 2. C Demo code exists that will work out of the box. (I see some
>> systems where many bugs need to be overcome to get a simple demo
>> application to work.
>> 3. Out of the box support for C.(Working C-Start / ctr0 that clear
>> and initialises data are required by C, initialises interrupts, and
>> calls main.
>> 4. Uses Thumb2 instruction set. (I understand Cortex M3 uses this set
>> and is easier to use than legacy ARM).
>> 5. No tools code size limitations. (Some evaluation board kits come
>> with code size limits either for build chain or debugger).
>> 6. >= ADC inputs, 8 digital inputs, 8 digital outputs
>>
>> Optional Requirements:
>> 1. C++ support out of the box.
>> 2. Existing support for On-Board peripherals.
>> 3. Out of the box support for RS232 printf.
>> 4. Flash >= 128K
>> 5. RAM >= 32 K (I want to use an RTOS.
>> 4. HW debugger.
>>
>> I realize this is a really touch set of requirements to meet.
>>
>> I am an embedded developer who has focused mostly on embedded
>> applications code (not much BSP). Does anyone have experience with
>> the Olimex STM32-P103 or Olimex STM32-H103. How about OpenOCD and the
>> Olimex debug hardware?
>>
>> John Sotack
>
> Look at the STM32 Primer2 from Raisonance : 59 euros with programmer
> and LCD included.
The only price I can find on the Raisonance website is for the STM32
Primer2 Pro: �129,- .
Reply by Bruno Richard●March 1, 20102010-03-01
On Feb 28, 5:16=A0pm, John <jdsot...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
> I am looking for a low cost platform for home Cortex M3 development.
> My main mandatory requirements are:
>
> 1. =A0Under $250 total cost.
> 2. =A0C Demo code exists that will work out of the box. (I see some
> systems where many bugs need to be overcome to get a simple demo
> application to work.
> 3. =A0Out of the box support for C.(Working C-Start / ctr0 that clear
> and initialises data are required by C, initialises interrupts, and
> calls main.
> 4. =A0Uses Thumb2 instruction set. (I understand Cortex M3 uses this set
> and is easier to use than legacy ARM).
> 5. =A0No tools code size limitations. =A0(Some evaluation board kits come
> with code size limits either for build chain or debugger).
> 6. =A0>=3D ADC inputs, 8 digital inputs, 8 digital outputs
>
> Optional Requirements:
> 1. =A0C++ support out of the box.
> 2. =A0Existing support for On-Board peripherals.
> 3. =A0Out of the box support for RS232 printf.
> 4. =A0Flash >=3D 128K
> 5. =A0RAM >=3D 32 K (I want to use an RTOS.
> 4. =A0HW debugger.
>
> I realize this is a really touch set of requirements to meet.
>
> I am an embedded developer who has focused mostly on embedded
> applications code (not much BSP). =A0Does anyone have experience with
> the Olimex STM32-P103 or Olimex STM32-H103. =A0How about OpenOCD and the
> Olimex debug hardware?
>
> John Sotack
Look at the STM32 Primer2 from Raisonance : 59 euros with programmer
and LCD included.
Bruno
Reply by -jg●February 28, 20102010-02-28
On Mar 1, 5:16=A0am, John <jdsot...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
> I am looking for a low cost platform for home Cortex M3 development.
> My main mandatory requirements are:
You could check the status of the larger versions of
http://ics.nxp.com/lpcxpresso/
NXP say they are coming for all families, but I think
LPC11xx and LPC13xx are the only real ones ?
Even if the larger ones are delayed, you can get started on the first
ones, and they are very low cost. (~$30)
-jg
Reply by David Brown●February 28, 20102010-02-28
An Schwob in the USA wrote:
> On Feb 28, 8:16 am, John <jdsot...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>> I am looking for a low cost platform for home Cortex M3 development.
>> My main mandatory requirements are:
>>
>> 1. Under $250 total cost.
>> 2. C Demo code exists that will work out of the box. (I see some
>> systems where many bugs need to be overcome to get a simple demo
>> application to work.
>> 3. Out of the box support for C.(Working C-Start / ctr0 that clear
>> and initialises data are required by C, initialises interrupts, and
>> calls main.
>> 4. Uses Thumb2 instruction set. (I understand Cortex M3 uses this set
>> and is easier to use than legacy ARM).
>> 5. No tools code size limitations. (Some evaluation board kits come
>> with code size limits either for build chain or debugger).
>> 6. >= ADC inputs, 8 digital inputs, 8 digital outputs
>>
>> Optional Requirements:
>> 1. C++ support out of the box.
>> 2. Existing support for On-Board peripherals.
>> 3. Out of the box support for RS232 printf.
>> 4. Flash >= 128K
>> 5. RAM >= 32 K (I want to use an RTOS.
>> 4. HW debugger.
>>
>> I realize this is a really touch set of requirements to meet.
>>
>> I am an embedded developer who has focused mostly on embedded
>> applications code (not much BSP). Does anyone have experience with
>> the Olimex STM32-P103 or Olimex STM32-H103. How about OpenOCD and the
>> Olimex debug hardware?
>>
>> John Sotack
>
> Well, all your requirements are actually easy to achieve except for
> the unlimited compiler. If you would like to have professional tools
> the unlimited C-Compilers / Debuggers start around $1k and can easily
> hit the $5 level.
>
If you have particular reason to want tools from companies like IAR or
Kiel, then they cost in that sort of price range. For some people and
some uses, it makes sense and is worth the money.
But there are several professional toolsets that use gcc. These are
available as either entirely free versions, or as paid-for professional
versions with additional libraries, commercial support, ready-to-run
setups with (typically) Eclipse and debuggers, etc. CodeSourcery comes
at $400 (or more for more libraries and more support) - I'm guessing
that Code Red and Rowley are in a similar price class.
Still, that's above the $250 you were aiming for - basically, your only
sensible choice is CodeSourcery's "Lite" version, which is entirely
free. You don't get the editor integration and extra libraries, but
there is still more than enough to do the job.
For the hardware, I'd recommend looking at TI's Stellaris lines. You
can get evaluation kits for $100, and all their libraries and demos
fully support CodeSourcery (and Code Red - I'd guess Rowley too).
Reply by An Schwob in the USA●February 28, 20102010-02-28
On Feb 28, 8:16=A0am, John <jdsot...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
> I am looking for a low cost platform for home Cortex M3 development.
> My main mandatory requirements are:
>
> 1. =A0Under $250 total cost.
> 2. =A0C Demo code exists that will work out of the box. (I see some
> systems where many bugs need to be overcome to get a simple demo
> application to work.
> 3. =A0Out of the box support for C.(Working C-Start / ctr0 that clear
> and initialises data are required by C, initialises interrupts, and
> calls main.
> 4. =A0Uses Thumb2 instruction set. (I understand Cortex M3 uses this set
> and is easier to use than legacy ARM).
> 5. =A0No tools code size limitations. =A0(Some evaluation board kits come
> with code size limits either for build chain or debugger).
> 6. =A0>=3D ADC inputs, 8 digital inputs, 8 digital outputs
>
> Optional Requirements:
> 1. =A0C++ support out of the box.
> 2. =A0Existing support for On-Board peripherals.
> 3. =A0Out of the box support for RS232 printf.
> 4. =A0Flash >=3D 128K
> 5. =A0RAM >=3D 32 K (I want to use an RTOS.
> 4. =A0HW debugger.
>
> I realize this is a really touch set of requirements to meet.
>
> I am an embedded developer who has focused mostly on embedded
> applications code (not much BSP). =A0Does anyone have experience with
> the Olimex STM32-P103 or Olimex STM32-H103. =A0How about OpenOCD and the
> Olimex debug hardware?
>
> John Sotack
I am looking for a low cost platform for home Cortex M3 development.
My main mandatory requirements are:
1. Under $250 total cost.
2. C Demo code exists that will work out of the box. (I see some
systems where many bugs need to be overcome to get a simple demo
application to work.
3. Out of the box support for C.(Working C-Start / ctr0 that clear
and initialises data are required by C, initialises interrupts, and
calls main.
4. Uses Thumb2 instruction set. (I understand Cortex M3 uses this set
and is easier to use than legacy ARM).
5. No tools code size limitations. (Some evaluation board kits come
with code size limits either for build chain or debugger).
6. >= ADC inputs, 8 digital inputs, 8 digital outputs
Optional Requirements:
1. C++ support out of the box.
2. Existing support for On-Board peripherals.
3. Out of the box support for RS232 printf.
4. Flash >= 128K
5. RAM >= 32 K (I want to use an RTOS.
4. HW debugger.
I realize this is a really touch set of requirements to meet.
I am an embedded developer who has focused mostly on embedded
applications code (not much BSP). Does anyone have experience with
the Olimex STM32-P103 or Olimex STM32-H103. How about OpenOCD and the
Olimex debug hardware?
John Sotack