On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 17:04:46 +0200, "Boudewijn Dijkstra"
<sp4mtr4p.boudewijn@indes.com> wrote:
>Op Thu, 20 Oct 2011 03:24:27 +0200 schreef Rich Webb
><bbew.ar@mapson.nozirev.ten>:
>> On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:13:09 -0500, Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The most widely used "pro" JTAG is the
>> Segger J-Link but it's just a weeee bit pricier.
>
>If you expect to do this more often, you might want to try
>
>http://segger.com/jlink-arm-lite.html
Hmm, I had not seen that before, thanks!
However, their disclaimer "J-Link Lite is only delivered and supported
as part of Starter Kits. It is not sold to end customer and not
guaranteed to work with custom hardware." is kind of a bummer.
My J-Link is a fairly old one (V 6.00 hardware).
--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
Reply by Boudewijn Dijkstra●October 21, 20112011-10-21
Op Thu, 20 Oct 2011 03:24:27 +0200 schreef Rich Webb
<bbew.ar@mapson.nozirev.ten>:
> On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:13:09 -0500, Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com>
> wrote:
>
> The most widely used "pro" JTAG is the
> Segger J-Link but it's just a weeee bit pricier.
> I'm looking for an inexpensive ARM JTAG programmer, to hand off to a
> customer to program flash on an LM3S2533. Currently I'm using my TI
> LM3S811 evaluation board, but that ties up a whole board when I want to
> just have a programmer, it's a bare board which doesn't look "pro", and I
> don't want to give it away at any rate.
>
> I'm looking at the Olimex programmer, available from SparkFun:
> http://www.sparkfun.com/products/8278. I know it'll work, because the TI
> eval board basically uses their circuit. But a quick search of DigiKey
> shows several available programmers.
>
> So -- any experience good or bad with any particular programmer?
> Comments? Suggestions?
>
It might be too late for this job but the cheapest way is to use one of
the FTDI USB cables - USB at one end and TTL level uart at the other -
free PC drivers make them look like COM ports.
Damn ! I just noticed that you are using TI/Luminary ARM not an NXP one ....
Well, if you were using an NXP (or ST) ARM with a built in UART
bootloader you could use one of the FTDI ..............
I'm going to have some coffee now !
Michael Kellett
Reply by Sink0●October 21, 20112011-10-21
>On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 08:55:03 +0200, Arlet Ottens wrote:
>
>> On 10/19/2011 11:46 PM, Tim Wescott wrote:
>>> On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:20:47 -0700, Rob Gaddi wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/19/2011 2:13 PM, Tim Wescott wrote:
>>>>> I'm looking for an inexpensive ARM JTAG programmer, to hand off to a
>>>>> customer to program flash on an LM3S2533. Currently I'm using my TI
>>>>> LM3S811 evaluation board, but that ties up a whole board when I want
>>>>> to just have a programmer, it's a bare board which doesn't look
>>>>> "pro", and I don't want to give it away at any rate.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm looking at the Olimex programmer, available from SparkFun:
>>>>> http://www.sparkfun.com/products/8278. I know it'll work, because
>>>>> the TI eval board basically uses their circuit. But a quick search
>>>>> of DigiKey shows several available programmers.
>>>>>
>>>>> So -- any experience good or bad with any particular programmer?
>>>>> Comments? Suggestions?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I'm using the Code Red RedProbe+. At $150 it works pretty well if
>>>> you're working off the Code Red toolchain, but as far as I know CR
>>>> won't release any of the interface information on it, so you're kinda
>>>> up a creek if you need something that'll just work with a hand-rolled
>>>> chain.
>>>
>>> I have a hand-rolled chain. And besides, what I'm mostly looking for
>>> is a tool that I can give to the customer so that he can program
boards
>>> on- site, without me there.
>>>
>>>
>> How about a bootloader that works through the UART ?
>
>That would cost my customer a whole lot more in my time than a $50 JTAG
>pod.
>
>--
>www.wescottdesign.com
>
On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 08:55:03 +0200, Arlet Ottens wrote:
> On 10/19/2011 11:46 PM, Tim Wescott wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:20:47 -0700, Rob Gaddi wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/19/2011 2:13 PM, Tim Wescott wrote:
>>>> I'm looking for an inexpensive ARM JTAG programmer, to hand off to a
>>>> customer to program flash on an LM3S2533. Currently I'm using my TI
>>>> LM3S811 evaluation board, but that ties up a whole board when I want
>>>> to just have a programmer, it's a bare board which doesn't look
>>>> "pro", and I don't want to give it away at any rate.
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking at the Olimex programmer, available from SparkFun:
>>>> http://www.sparkfun.com/products/8278. I know it'll work, because
>>>> the TI eval board basically uses their circuit. But a quick search
>>>> of DigiKey shows several available programmers.
>>>>
>>>> So -- any experience good or bad with any particular programmer?
>>>> Comments? Suggestions?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I'm using the Code Red RedProbe+. At $150 it works pretty well if
>>> you're working off the Code Red toolchain, but as far as I know CR
>>> won't release any of the interface information on it, so you're kinda
>>> up a creek if you need something that'll just work with a hand-rolled
>>> chain.
>>
>> I have a hand-rolled chain. And besides, what I'm mostly looking for
>> is a tool that I can give to the customer so that he can program boards
>> on- site, without me there.
>>
>>
> How about a bootloader that works through the UART ?
That would cost my customer a whole lot more in my time than a $50 JTAG
pod.
--
www.wescottdesign.com
Reply by Roberto Waltman●October 20, 20112011-10-20
Rich Webb wrote:
>...
> The most widely used "pro" JTAG is the
>Segger J-Link but it's just a weeee bit pricier.
For large enough values of "weeee" ... ;)
--
Roberto Waltman
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Reply by Arlet Ottens●October 20, 20112011-10-20
On 10/19/2011 11:46 PM, Tim Wescott wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:20:47 -0700, Rob Gaddi wrote:
>
>> On 10/19/2011 2:13 PM, Tim Wescott wrote:
>>> I'm looking for an inexpensive ARM JTAG programmer, to hand off to a
>>> customer to program flash on an LM3S2533. Currently I'm using my TI
>>> LM3S811 evaluation board, but that ties up a whole board when I want to
>>> just have a programmer, it's a bare board which doesn't look "pro", and
>>> I don't want to give it away at any rate.
>>>
>>> I'm looking at the Olimex programmer, available from SparkFun:
>>> http://www.sparkfun.com/products/8278. I know it'll work, because the
>>> TI eval board basically uses their circuit. But a quick search of
>>> DigiKey shows several available programmers.
>>>
>>> So -- any experience good or bad with any particular programmer?
>>> Comments? Suggestions?
>>>
>>>
>> I'm using the Code Red RedProbe+. At $150 it works pretty well if
>> you're working off the Code Red toolchain, but as far as I know CR won't
>> release any of the interface information on it, so you're kinda up a
>> creek if you need something that'll just work with a hand-rolled chain.
>
> I have a hand-rolled chain. And besides, what I'm mostly looking for is
> a tool that I can give to the customer so that he can program boards on-
> site, without me there.
>
How about a bootloader that works through the UART ?
Reply by Tim●October 19, 20112011-10-19
On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:21:28 -0700, linnix wrote:
> On Oct 19, 2:13 pm, Tim Wescott <t...@seemywebsite.com> wrote:
>> I'm looking for an inexpensive ARM JTAG programmer, to hand off to a
>> customer to program flash on an LM3S2533. Currently I'm using my TI
>> LM3S811 evaluation board, but that ties up a whole board when I want to
>> just have a programmer, it's a bare board which doesn't look "pro",
>
> Do you have a "pro" case for your board? Doesn't help if the tool is
> more "pro" than the product.
Yup. I've decided that Rose-Bopla is my manufacturer of the year. They
make a nice case, and they're willing to talk to low volume folks like me.
--
Tim Wescott
Control system and signal processing consulting
www.wescottdesign.com
Reply by Rich Webb●October 19, 20112011-10-19
On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:13:09 -0500, Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com>
wrote:
>I'm looking for an inexpensive ARM JTAG programmer, to hand off to a
>customer to program flash on an LM3S2533. Currently I'm using my TI
>LM3S811 evaluation board, but that ties up a whole board when I want to
>just have a programmer, it's a bare board which doesn't look "pro", and I
>don't want to give it away at any rate.
>
>I'm looking at the Olimex programmer, available from SparkFun:
>http://www.sparkfun.com/products/8278. I know it'll work, because the TI
>eval board basically uses their circuit. But a quick search of DigiKey
>shows several available programmers.
>
>So -- any experience good or bad with any particular programmer?
>Comments? Suggestions?
The Olimex ARM-OCD-USB is probably the best bet for an inexpensive and
also widely supported ARM JTAG. The most widely used "pro" JTAG is the
Segger J-Link but it's just a weeee bit pricier.
There's an older, inexpensive parallel-port Wiggler JTAG and numerous
clones but parallel ports are few and far between nowadays.
I'd say, if the Olimex works and your toolchain supports it, that's the
way to go.
--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
Reply by linnix●October 19, 20112011-10-19
On Oct 19, 2:13=A0pm, Tim Wescott <t...@seemywebsite.com> wrote:
> I'm looking for an inexpensive ARM JTAG programmer, to hand off to a
> customer to program flash on an LM3S2533. =A0Currently I'm using my TI
> LM3S811 evaluation board, but that ties up a whole board when I want to
> just have a programmer, it's a bare board which doesn't look "pro",
Do you have a "pro" case for your board? Doesn't help if the tool is
more "pro" than the product.