Reply by Jukka Marin ●May 28, 20042004-05-28
On 2004-05-27, Chris Hills <chris@phaedsys.org> wrote:

> If it is anything like the Gnu C compiler for ARM it is hopelessly
> inefficient


gcc could be better, sure - but it's still good enough for serious work.

  -jm
Reply by Chris Hills ●May 27, 20042004-05-27
In article <40b2f49d$0$25318$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com>, Leon
Heller <leon_heller@hotmail.com> writes

>"Tilmann Reh" <tilmannreh@despammed.com> wrote in message
>news:c8uqvt$2iq$1@online.de...
>> 42Bastian Schick schrieb:
>>
>> > The Ashling board (we distribute it,see www.sciopta.de) comes for a
>> > reasonable price and is based on the GCC + onboard USB-jtag.
>>
>> I don't know exactly which board you are referring to, but the
>> Opella debugger looks like a useful tool for us...
>>
>> >>Besides C/C++, are there any compilers for other languages (preferrably
>> >>Pascal)?
>> >
>> > I guess any ARM pascal will work with more or less effort on this
>> > chip.
>> > But actually, I did not hear about a Pascal compiler for ARM so far.
>>
>> This sounds like bad luck. If anyone comes across one, please let me know!
>
>There is a GNU Pascal compiler:
>
>http://www.gnu-pascal.de/gpc/h-index.html
>
>It might be feasible to convert it into a cross-compiler for the ARM.
>
>Another option is the GNU p2c translator. Actually, that might be the best
>way.
>
>Leon


If it is anything like the Gnu C compiler for ARM it is hopelessly
inefficient

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Reply by Chris Hills ●May 27, 20042004-05-27
In article <c8sphm$t37$1@online.de>, Tilmann Reh
<tilmannreh@despammed.com> writes

>Hello,
>
>we are looking for development tools (IDE and simple In-Circuit
>Debugger) for the Philips LPC210x (ARM7) controller family,
>particularly at the lower priced end. At the Philips homepage,
>several systems are listed (mainly from the greater vendors like
>Keil, Nohau, IAR, Ashling etc.).
>
>Can someone recommend a good package to look at? Maybe there are
>some more makers of "smaller" development tools which are not
>listed there? (For example, I guess there is a free GCC compiler
>available.)


It is hardly efficient.


>Besides C/C++, are there any compilers for other languages (preferrably
>Pascal)?


Yes but it is not widely used.
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Reply by 42Bastian Schick ●May 26, 20042004-05-26
On Tue, 25 May 2004 09:01:38 +0200, Tilmann Reh
<tilmannreh@despammed.com> wrote:


>42Bastian Schick schrieb:
>
>> The Ashling board (we distribute it,see www.sciopta.de) comes for a
>> reasonable price and is based on the GCC + onboard USB-jtag.
>
>I don't know exactly which board you are referring to, but the


It is called ASK-2000.

See:

http://www.ashling.com/support/lpc2000/eval_kits.html


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Reply by Tilmann Reh ●May 25, 20042004-05-25
Stephen Pelc schrieb:


> The Rowley compiler should be configured for the USB Stamp in
> a couple of weeks, and the evaluation version will then be on
> the support CD.


Now this sounds *good*.
Can you add me to your list of people to inform when that kit
appears?

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Reply by Tilmann Reh ●May 25, 20042004-05-25
Jim Granville schrieb:


> Notes on GNU pascal are here..
> http://www.dimi.uniud.it/labs/documentazione/gnu_pascal/2.0/gpc_toc.html
> 
> For notes on GNU Modula-2/ARM cross compiler see
> http://floppsie.comp.glam.ac.uk/Glamorgan/gaius/web/gm2-arm.html
> and there is
> 
> http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a9406973/modula2/index.html
> 
> Here, strannik looks intersting, it's a Multi-language system :
> Modula-2(Oberon-2), C(C++), Pascal - open source, so could be
> made into a cross compiler....[knowledge of Russian would help :)]
> 
> General lists here
> http://www.thefreecountry.com/compilers/pascal.shtml
> http://www.thefreecountry.com/compilers/modula2.shtml
> 
> and I see both GNU Modula-2 and GNU pascal recently built for the AMD 64 
> bit processors.
> 
>   For DEBUG I'd guess GDB would be well advanced.


Thanks for these notes. It'll take a while to read all those
pages :-).

However, AFAICS, there is no ready-to-use Pascal IDE for ARM7 yet...

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Reply by Tilmann Reh ●May 25, 20042004-05-25
Tsvetan Usunov schrieb:


> www.olimex.com/dev 


Thanks for the info. I will also have a look at EWARM, seems like
a really cheap way to at least start with ARM programming.

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Reply by Stephen Pelc ●May 25, 20042004-05-25
On Tue, 25 May 2004 08:57:09 +0200, Tilmann Reh
<tilmannreh@despammed.com> wrote:


>Thanks for the links, the USB-Stamp might be a way to go.
>
>However, I would need additional software packages (I don't want
>to start with FORTH), and I guess a complete package (hard- and
>software) might be more cost effictive.

The Rowley compiler should be configured for the USB Stamp in
a couple of weeks, and the evaluation version will then be on
the support CD.

Stephen
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Reply by Tsvetan Usunov ●May 25, 20042004-05-25
Tilmann Reh <tilmannreh@despammed.com> wrote in message news:<c8sphm$t37$1@online.de>...

> Hello,
> 
> we are looking for development tools (IDE and simple In-Circuit
> Debugger) for the Philips LPC210x (ARM7) controller family,
> particularly at the lower priced end. At the Philips homepage,
> several systems are listed (mainly from the greater vendors like
> Keil, Nohau, IAR, Ashling etc.).
> 
> Can someone recommend a good package to look at? Maybe there are
> some more makers of "smaller" development tools which are not
> listed there? (For example, I guess there is a free GCC compiler
> available.)
> 
> Besides C/C++, are there any compilers for other languages (preferrably
> Pascal)?
> 
> TIA,


www.olimex.com/dev 

Best regards
Tsvetan
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Reply by Jim Granville ●May 25, 20042004-05-25
>>>>Besides C/C++, are there any compilers for other languages (preferrably
>>>>Pascal)?
>>>
>>>I guess any ARM pascal will work with more or less effort on this
>>>chip.
>>>But actually, I did not hear about a Pascal compiler for ARM so far.
>>
>>This sounds like bad luck. If anyone comes across one, please let me know!
> 
> 
> There is a GNU Pascal compiler:
> 
> http://www.gnu-pascal.de/gpc/h-index.html
> 
> It might be feasible to convert it into a cross-compiler for the ARM.


Notes on GNU pascal are here..
http://www.dimi.uniud.it/labs/documentazione/gnu_pascal/2.0/gpc_toc.html

For notes on GNU Modula-2/ARM cross compiler see
http://floppsie.comp.glam.ac.uk/Glamorgan/gaius/web/gm2-arm.html
and there is

http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a9406973/modula2/index.html

Here, strannik looks intersting, it's a Multi-language system :
Modula-2(Oberon-2), C(C++), Pascal - open source, so could be
made into a cross compiler....[knowledge of Russian would help :)]

General lists here
http://www.thefreecountry.com/compilers/pascal.shtml
http://www.thefreecountry.com/compilers/modula2.shtml

and I see both GNU Modula-2 and GNU pascal recently built for the AMD 64 
bit processors.

  For DEBUG I'd guess GDB would be well advanced.

-jg