Reply by Micah Stevens●February 22, 20052005-02-22
I must of clicked right past that. Thanks. I'll keep that in mind. :)
On Tuesday 22 February 2005 01:37 am, moruisg wrote:
> Hi Micah,
>
> For future reference you can change the directory that Linux
> CrossWorks is installed to on the "Choose Destination" page
(which is
> about the third dialog page the installer displays). If you change it
> to a directory that you have write permission to the installation
> should work.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jon Elliott
> Rowley Associates Ltd
>
> --- In msp430@msp4..., Micah Stevens <micah@9...> wrote:
> > Hi Jon,
> >
> > Thanks for the reply, I see this is already on your list.
There's
>
> not much I
>
> > know enough about in this group to make a stink about, so I
>
> apologize if I
>
> > got pushy. :)
> >
> > In my experience, one should be able to install as root to allow
>
> access to all
>
> > users on the system via the /usr/ directories.
> >
> > the installer will not function as a regular user, as the /usr/
>
> directories
>
> > require root writing permissions. (this is not unique to my system
>
> BTW I know
>
> > Debian and SuSE, and Redhat all do this by default I believe
it's
>
> pretty
>
> > standard) I did try this first BTW thinking that it might want to
>
> install
>
> > just in my home directory, but I got errors.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > -Micah
> >
> > On Monday 21 February 2005 04:20 am, moruisg wrote:
> > > Hi Micah,
> > >
> > > I'm sorry you've had problems installing the Linux
version of
>
> CrossWorks.
>
> > > The problem with the "studio.xml" file is that it
doesn't have
>
> "other"
>
> > > read/write permission. As you installed CrossWorks as one user
>
> and are
>
> > > running as another user (not in the same group) you don't
have
> > > permission to access the file. The installer doesn't
actually change
> > > any permissions, it just copies them.
> > >
> > > There is an inconsistency in the current installation as the
majority
> > > of the system files have "other" read permission
which is why you are
> > > able to start up CrossStudio but are unable to read some files.
I'll
> > > see this is sorted out in future versions.
> > >
> > > In the meantime you should be able to install CrossWorks as a
regular
> > > user as I believe no administration privileges are required to
carry
> > > out the installation on the Linux version.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Jon Elliott
> > > Rowley Associates Ltd
> > >
> > > --- In msp430@msp4..., Micah Stevens <micah@9...> wrote:
> > > > Yes, it is. I just had a thought though, I installed as
root,
>
> so the
>
> > > file is
> > >
> > > > owned by root, if the installer didn't change
permissions
>
> properly,
>
> > > the
> > >
> > > > program is run as a user, won't be able to access it.
(checking..)
> > > >
> > > > Yep, that's the problem. The mode was set to RWX -
RW - so there
> > >
> > > were no user
> > >
> > > > permissions. This is incorrect, it should be RWX - RW - RW
or
> > >
> > > something of
> > >
> > > > that nature, unless the installer sets up a
'crossworks' group and
> > >
> > > then gives
> > >
> > > > the users permissions in that matter.
> > > >
> > > > I'd say this is an installer bug for sure. Let me
know if you need
> > >
> > > additional
> > >
> > > > information.
> > > >
> > > > -Micah
> > > >
> > > > On Friday 18 February 2005 02:55 pm, Paul Curtis wrote:
> > > > > Micah,
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Jon and Paul,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Okay, I found it, it's at:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > /usr/local/Rowley Associates Limited/CrossWorks
MSP430
>
> 1.0/bin/
>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But it on startup it can't find the
studio.xml file and
> > > > > > spouts an error. I added the directory to the
system path,
> > > > > > but that didn't matter, so I assume
it's looking in a
> > > > > > specific place for it, not in the crossworks
bin/ directory.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Where should it be?
> > > > >
> > > > > "studio.xml" should be in the
"bin" directory with the
>
> crossstudio
>
> > > > > file--is it?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Paul Curtis, Rowley Associates Ltd
http://www.rowley.co.uk
> > > > > CrossWorks for MSP430, ARM, AVR and (soon) MAXQ
processors
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > .
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > .
>
> .
>
>
>
>
>
> .
Hi Micah,
For future reference you can change the directory that Linux
CrossWorks is installed to on the "Choose Destination" page (which is
about the third dialog page the installer displays). If you change it
to a directory that you have write permission to the installation
should work.
Regards,
Jon Elliott
Rowley Associates Ltd
--- In msp430@msp4..., Micah Stevens <micah@9...> wrote:
> Hi Jon,
>
> Thanks for the reply, I see this is already on your list. There's
not much I
> know enough about in this group to make a stink
about, so I
apologize if I
> got pushy. :)
>
> In my experience, one should be able to install as root to allow
access to all
> users on the system via the /usr/ directories.
>
> the installer will not function as a regular user, as the /usr/
directories
> require root writing permissions. (this is not
unique to my system
BTW I know
> Debian and SuSE, and Redhat all do this by default
I believe it's
pretty
> standard) I did try this first BTW thinking that
it might want to
install
> just in my home directory, but I got errors.
>
> Thanks!
> -Micah
>
>
> On Monday 21 February 2005 04:20 am, moruisg wrote:
> > Hi Micah,
> >
> > I'm sorry you've had problems installing the Linux version
of
CrossWorks.
> >
> > The problem with the "studio.xml" file is that it
doesn't have
"other"
> > read/write permission. As you installed
CrossWorks as one user
and are
> > running as another user (not in the same
group) you don't have
> > permission to access the file. The installer doesn't actually
change
> > any permissions, it just copies them.
> >
> > There is an inconsistency in the current installation as the majority
> > of the system files have "other" read permission which is
why you are
> > able to start up CrossStudio but are unable to read some files.
I'll
> > see this is sorted out in future versions.
> >
> > In the meantime you should be able to install CrossWorks as a regular
> > user as I believe no administration privileges are required to carry
> > out the installation on the Linux version.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jon Elliott
> > Rowley Associates Ltd
> >
> > --- In msp430@msp4..., Micah Stevens <micah@9...> wrote:
> > > Yes, it is. I just had a thought though, I installed as root,
so the
> >
> > file is
> >
> > > owned by root, if the installer didn't change permissions
properly,
> >
> > the
> >
> > > program is run as a user, won't be able to access it.
(checking..)
> > >
> > > Yep, that's the problem. The mode was set to RWX - RW - so
there
> >
> > were no user
> >
> > > permissions. This is incorrect, it should be RWX - RW - RW or
> >
> > something of
> >
> > > that nature, unless the installer sets up a
'crossworks' group and
> >
> > then gives
> >
> > > the users permissions in that matter.
> > >
> > > I'd say this is an installer bug for sure. Let me know if
you need
> >
> > additional
> >
> > > information.
> > >
> > > -Micah
> > >
> > > On Friday 18 February 2005 02:55 pm, Paul Curtis wrote:
> > > > Micah,
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Jon and Paul,
> > > > >
> > > > > Okay, I found it, it's at:
> > > > >
> > > > > /usr/local/Rowley Associates Limited/CrossWorks
MSP430
1.0/bin/
> > > > >
> > > > > But it on startup it can't find the studio.xml
file and
> > > > > spouts an error. I added the directory to the system
path,
> > > > > but that didn't matter, so I assume it's
looking in a
> > > > > specific place for it, not in the crossworks bin/
directory.
> > > > >
> > > > > Where should it be?
> > > >
> > > > "studio.xml" should be in the "bin"
directory with the
crossstudio
> > > > file--is it?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Paul Curtis, Rowley Associates Ltd
http://www.rowley.co.uk
> > > > CrossWorks for MSP430, ARM, AVR and (soon) MAXQ processors
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > .
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > .
Reply by Micah Stevens●February 21, 20052005-02-21
Hi Jon,
Thanks for the reply, I see this is already on your list. There's not much
I
know enough about in this group to make a stink about, so I apologize if I
got pushy. :)
In my experience, one should be able to install as root to allow access to all
users on the system via the /usr/ directories.
the installer will not function as a regular user, as the /usr/ directories
require root writing permissions. (this is not unique to my system BTW I know
Debian and SuSE, and Redhat all do this by default I believe it's pretty
standard) I did try this first BTW thinking that it might want to install
just in my home directory, but I got errors.
Thanks!
-Micah
On Monday 21 February 2005 04:20 am, moruisg wrote:
> Hi Micah,
>
> I'm sorry you've had problems installing the Linux version of
CrossWorks.
>
> The problem with the "studio.xml" file is that it doesn't
have "other"
> read/write permission. As you installed CrossWorks as one user and are
> running as another user (not in the same group) you don't have
> permission to access the file. The installer doesn't actually change
> any permissions, it just copies them.
>
> There is an inconsistency in the current installation as the majority
> of the system files have "other" read permission which is why
you are
> able to start up CrossStudio but are unable to read some files. I'll
> see this is sorted out in future versions.
>
> In the meantime you should be able to install CrossWorks as a regular
> user as I believe no administration privileges are required to carry
> out the installation on the Linux version.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jon Elliott
> Rowley Associates Ltd
>
> --- In msp430@msp4..., Micah Stevens <micah@9...> wrote:
> > Yes, it is. I just had a thought though, I installed as root, so the
>
> file is
>
> > owned by root, if the installer didn't change permissions
properly,
>
> the
>
> > program is run as a user, won't be able to access it.
(checking..)
> >
> > Yep, that's the problem. The mode was set to RWX - RW - so
there
>
> were no user
>
> > permissions. This is incorrect, it should be RWX - RW - RW or
>
> something of
>
> > that nature, unless the installer sets up a 'crossworks'
group and
>
> then gives
>
> > the users permissions in that matter.
> >
> > I'd say this is an installer bug for sure. Let me know if you
need
>
> additional
>
> > information.
> >
> > -Micah
> >
> > On Friday 18 February 2005 02:55 pm, Paul Curtis wrote:
> > > Micah,
> > >
> > > > Hi Jon and Paul,
> > > >
> > > > Okay, I found it, it's at:
> > > >
> > > > /usr/local/Rowley Associates Limited/CrossWorks MSP430
1.0/bin/
> > > >
> > > > But it on startup it can't find the studio.xml file
and
> > > > spouts an error. I added the directory to the system path,
> > > > but that didn't matter, so I assume it's looking
in a
> > > > specific place for it, not in the crossworks bin/
directory.
> > > >
> > > > Where should it be?
> > >
> > > "studio.xml" should be in the "bin"
directory with the crossstudio
> > > file--is it?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Paul Curtis, Rowley Associates Ltd http://www.rowley.co.uk
> > > CrossWorks for MSP430, ARM, AVR and (soon) MAXQ processors
> > >
> > >
> > > .
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > .
>
> .
>
>
>
>
>
> .
Reply by moruisg●February 21, 20052005-02-21
Hi Micah,
I'm sorry you've had problems installing the Linux version of
CrossWorks.
The problem with the "studio.xml" file is that it doesn't have
"other"
read/write permission. As you installed CrossWorks as one user and are
running as another user (not in the same group) you don't have
permission to access the file. The installer doesn't actually change
any permissions, it just copies them.
There is an inconsistency in the current installation as the majority
of the system files have "other" read permission which is why you are
able to start up CrossStudio but are unable to read some files. I'll
see this is sorted out in future versions.
In the meantime you should be able to install CrossWorks as a regular
user as I believe no administration privileges are required to carry
out the installation on the Linux version.
Regards,
Jon Elliott
Rowley Associates Ltd
--- In msp430@msp4..., Micah Stevens <micah@9...> wrote:
>
> Yes, it is. I just had a thought though, I installed as root, so the
file is
> owned by root, if the installer didn't change
permissions properly,
the
> program is run as a user, won't be able to
access it. (checking..)
>
> Yep, that's the problem. The mode was set to RWX - RW - so there
were no user
> permissions. This is incorrect, it should be RWX -
RW - RW or
something of
> that nature, unless the installer sets up a
'crossworks' group and
then gives
> the users permissions in that matter.
>
> I'd say this is an installer bug for sure. Let me know if you need
additional
> information.
>
> -Micah
>
> On Friday 18 February 2005 02:55 pm, Paul Curtis wrote:
> > Micah,
> >
> > > Hi Jon and Paul,
> > >
> > > Okay, I found it, it's at:
> > >
> > > /usr/local/Rowley Associates Limited/CrossWorks MSP430 1.0/bin/
> > >
> > > But it on startup it can't find the studio.xml file and
> > > spouts an error. I added the directory to the system path,
> > > but that didn't matter, so I assume it's looking in a
> > > specific place for it, not in the crossworks bin/ directory.
> > >
> > > Where should it be?
> >
> > "studio.xml" should be in the "bin" directory
with the crossstudio
> > file--is it?
> >
> > --
> > Paul Curtis, Rowley Associates Ltd http://www.rowley.co.uk
> > CrossWorks for MSP430, ARM, AVR and (soon) MAXQ processors
> >
> >
> > .
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > .
Reply by Micah Stevens●February 19, 20052005-02-19
Yes, but how many products would you sell if your windows installer created an
installation that didn't run? Granted your usual linux user is a bit more
aware of the operation of their OS than the typical Windows user, but to say
'well, it WOULD work if the permissions were set properly, so it's
okay' is
not something that makes sense to me.
I'm over it, and I agree that once it is working, the rest of the system
seems
pretty cool, not as good as it could be if you guys invested in some KDE
integration, but considering how many licenses you sell to KDE users, I doubt
it's worth it. (unless I'm terribly mistaken about that)
Fact is though, the linux installer is broken. Not life threatening, but
neither is anything that runs on my development box. Yet there are tons of
things that are broken.
Just my 2 cents.
-Micah
On Friday 18 February 2005 06:47 pm, Paul Curtis wrote:
> Frustrating, but hardly life threatening... :-)
>
> --
> Paul Curtis, Rowley Associates Ltd http://www.rowley.co.uk
> CrossWorks for MSP430, ARM, AVR and (soon) MAXQ processors
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Micah Stevens [mailto:micah@mica...]
> > Sent: 19 February 2005 01:36
> > To: msp430@msp4...
> > Subject: Re: [msp430] Crossworks on Debian
> >
> >
> >
> > Ahh, so it IS a bug. :)
> >
> > Thanks for your help Robert.
> > -Micah
> >
> > On Friday 18 February 2005 04:14 pm, Robert Wood wrote:
> > > Ah, glad you sorted it. I had exactly the same errors when I
> > > installed on Mandy.
> > >
> > > ----------------
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes, it is. I just had a thought though, I installed as
> >
> > root, so the
> >
> > > file is owned by root, if the installer didn't change
permissions
> > > properly, the program is run as a user, won't be able to
access it.
> > > (checking..)
> > >
> > > Yep, that's the problem. The mode was set to RWX - RW -
so there
> > > were no user permissions. This is incorrect, it should be
> >
> > RWX - RW -
> >
> > > RW or something of that nature, unless the installer sets up a
> > > 'crossworks' group and then gives the users
permissions in
> >
> > that matter.
> >
> > > I'd say this is an installer bug for sure. Let me know if
you need
> > > additional information.
> > >
> > > -Micah
> > >
> > > On Friday 18 February 2005 02:55 pm, Paul Curtis wrote:
> > > > Micah,
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Jon and Paul,
> > > > >
> > > > > Okay, I found it, it's at:
> > > > >
> > > > > /usr/local/Rowley Associates Limited/CrossWorks
> >
> > MSP430 1.0/bin/
> >
> > > > > > > But it on startup it can't find the
studio.xml
> >
> > file and >
> >
> > > > spouts an error. I added the directory to the system
> >
> > path, > > but
> >
> > > that didn't matter, so I assume it's looking in a
> >
> >
> > specific place
> >
> > > for it, not in the crossworks bin/ directory.
> > > > >
> > > > > Where should it be?
> > > >
> > > > "studio.xml" should be in the "bin"
directory with the
> >
> > crossstudio
> >
> > > > file--is it?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Paul Curtis, Rowley Associates Ltd
http://www.rowley.co.uk >
> > > CrossWorks for MSP430, ARM, AVR and (soon) MAXQ processors
> > > > >
> > > .
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > .
> >
> > .
> >
> >
> > .
Reply by Paul Curtis●February 18, 20052005-02-18
Frustrating, but hardly life threatening... :-)
--
Paul Curtis, Rowley Associates Ltd http://www.rowley.co.uk
CrossWorks for MSP430, ARM, AVR and (soon) MAXQ processors
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Micah Stevens [mailto:micah@mica...]
> Sent: 19 February 2005 01:36
> To: msp430@msp4...
> Subject: Re: [msp430] Crossworks on Debian
>
>
>
> Ahh, so it IS a bug. :)
>
> Thanks for your help Robert.
> -Micah
>
>
>
> On Friday 18 February 2005 04:14 pm, Robert Wood wrote:
> > Ah, glad you sorted it. I had exactly the same errors when I
> > installed on Mandy.
> >
> > ----------------
> >
> >
> > Yes, it is. I just had a thought though, I installed as
> root, so the
> > file is owned by root, if the installer didn't change permissions
> > properly, the program is run as a user, won't be able to access
it.
> > (checking..)
> >
> > Yep, that's the problem. The mode was set to RWX - RW - so
there
> > were no user permissions. This is incorrect, it should be
> RWX - RW -
> > RW or something of that nature, unless the installer sets up a
> > 'crossworks' group and then gives the users permissions in
> that matter.
> >
> > I'd say this is an installer bug for sure. Let me know if you
need
> > additional information.
> >
> > -Micah
> >
> > On Friday 18 February 2005 02:55 pm, Paul Curtis wrote:
> > > Micah,
> > >
> > > > Hi Jon and Paul,
> > > >
> > > > Okay, I found it, it's at:
> > > >
> > > > /usr/local/Rowley Associates Limited/CrossWorks
> MSP430 1.0/bin/
> > > > > > But it on startup it can't find the
studio.xml
> file and >
> > > spouts an error. I added the directory to the system
> path, > > but
> > that didn't matter, so I assume it's looking in a >
>
> specific place
> > for it, not in the crossworks bin/ directory.
> > > >
> > > > Where should it be?
> > >
> > > "studio.xml" should be in the "bin"
directory with the
> crossstudio
> > > file--is it?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Paul Curtis, Rowley Associates Ltd http://www.rowley.co.uk
>
> > CrossWorks for MSP430, ARM, AVR and (soon) MAXQ processors
> > > >
> > .
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > .
>
>
> .
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Reply by Micah Stevens●February 18, 20052005-02-18
Ahh, so it IS a bug. :)
Thanks for your help Robert.
-Micah
On Friday 18 February 2005 04:14 pm, Robert Wood wrote:
> Ah, glad you sorted it. I had exactly the same errors when I installed on
> Mandy.
>
> ----------------
>
>
> Yes, it is. I just had a thought though, I installed as root, so the file
> is owned by root, if the installer didn't change permissions
properly, the
> program is run as a user, won't be able to access it. (checking..)
>
> Yep, that's the problem. The mode was set to RWX - RW - so there
were no
> user permissions. This is incorrect, it should be RWX - RW - RW or
> something of that nature, unless the installer sets up a
'crossworks' group
> and then gives the users permissions in that matter.
>
> I'd say this is an installer bug for sure. Let me know if you need
> additional information.
>
> -Micah
>
> On Friday 18 February 2005 02:55 pm, Paul Curtis wrote:
> > Micah,
> >
> > > Hi Jon and Paul,
> > >
> > > Okay, I found it, it's at:
> > >
> > > /usr/local/Rowley Associates Limited/CrossWorks MSP430 1.0/bin/
> > >
> > > But it on startup it can't find the studio.xml file and
> > > spouts an error. I added the directory to the system path,
> > > but that didn't matter, so I assume it's looking in a
> > > specific place for it, not in the crossworks bin/ directory.
> > >
> > > Where should it be?
> >
> > "studio.xml" should be in the "bin" directory
with the crossstudio
> > file--is it?
> >
> > --
> > Paul Curtis, Rowley Associates Ltd http://www.rowley.co.uk
> > CrossWorks for MSP430, ARM, AVR and (soon) MAXQ processors
> >
> >
> > .
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > .
>
> .
>
>
> .
Reply by Robert Wood●February 18, 20052005-02-18
Ah, glad you sorted it. I had exactly the same errors when I installed on
Mandy.
----------------
Yes, it is. I just had a thought though, I installed as root, so the file is
owned by root, if the installer didn't change permissions properly, the
program is run as a user, won't be able to access it. (checking..)
Yep, that's the problem. The mode was set to RWX - RW - so there were no
user
permissions. This is incorrect, it should be RWX - RW - RW or something of
that nature, unless the installer sets up a 'crossworks' group and
then gives
the users permissions in that matter.
I'd say this is an installer bug for sure. Let me know if you need
additional
information.
-Micah
On Friday 18 February 2005 02:55 pm, Paul Curtis wrote:
> Micah,
>
> > Hi Jon and Paul,
> >
> > Okay, I found it, it's at:
> >
> > /usr/local/Rowley Associates Limited/CrossWorks MSP430 1.0/bin/
> >
> > But it on startup it can't find the studio.xml file and
> > spouts an error. I added the directory to the system path,
> > but that didn't matter, so I assume it's looking in a
> > specific place for it, not in the crossworks bin/ directory.
> >
> > Where should it be?
>
> "studio.xml" should be in the "bin" directory with the
crossstudio
> file--is it?
>
> --
> Paul Curtis, Rowley Associates Ltd http://www.rowley.co.uk
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Reply by Robert Wood●February 18, 20052005-02-18
On my Mandrake installation it's in:
'/usr/local/Rowley Associates Limited/CrossWorks for ARM
1.2/bin/crossstudio'
This says "executable file" in Konqueror.
Any help? :)
Cheers,
Rob
PS I love Crossworks, me - means I can dump Windows! ;-)
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Hi Paul,
I just installed the crossworks demo on a Debian Sarge machine. The install
went fine (no errors at least) and now I'm left wondering how the hell I
start the program? There's no indication of where the executable files are,
and no entries in the KDE menu appeared.
I took a look around the /usr/bin and /usr/sbin directories, and didn't see
anything resembling crossstudio or cross-anything.
Thanks for your help!
-Micah
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Reply by Micah Stevens●February 18, 20052005-02-18
Yes, it is. I just had a thought though, I installed as root, so the file is
owned by root, if the installer didn't change permissions properly, the
program is run as a user, won't be able to access it. (checking..)
Yep, that's the problem. The mode was set to RWX - RW - so there were no
user
permissions. This is incorrect, it should be RWX - RW - RW or something of
that nature, unless the installer sets up a 'crossworks' group and
then gives
the users permissions in that matter.
I'd say this is an installer bug for sure. Let me know if you need
additional
information.
-Micah
On Friday 18 February 2005 02:55 pm, Paul Curtis wrote:
> Micah,
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> > Hi Jon and Paul,
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> > Okay, I found it, it's at:
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> > /usr/local/Rowley Associates Limited/CrossWorks MSP430 1.0/bin/
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> > But it on startup it can't find the studio.xml file and
> > spouts an error. I added the directory to the system path,
> > but that didn't matter, so I assume it's looking in a
> > specific place for it, not in the crossworks bin/ directory.
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> > Where should it be?
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> "studio.xml" should be in the "bin" directory with the
crossstudio
> file--is it?
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