Reply by Konki May 10, 20042004-05-10
hoh@invalid.invalid (Goran Larsson) wrote in message news:<HxG32D.G23@approve.se>...
> In article <e8e5d61e.0405070335.2556f863@posting.google.com>, > Konki <nntpuser@konki.net> wrote: > > Tanks a lot. Any idea if (and where) I can get an English version of > > these? > > Is the information on this page enough? > < http://www.type2.com/library/identifi/bosterm.htm >
Yes. Thank you very much. This will do as a reference. In the mean time, I will try to get a copy of the other publications. Have a nice day, Konki
Reply by Goran Larsson May 9, 20042004-05-09
In article <e8e5d61e.0405070335.2556f863@posting.google.com>,
Konki <nntpuser@konki.net> wrote:

> Tanks a lot. Any idea if (and where) I can get an English version of > these? I searched the Bosch web site for the firs one and > Springer-Verlag for the second one. No luck.
Is the information on this page enough? < http://www.type2.com/library/identifi/bosterm.htm > | From Bosch Automotive Handbook, 3rd edition | | Terminal Designations (Excerpts from DIN Standard 72 552) | The terminal designations ... -- G&#4294967295;ran Larsson http://www.mitt-eget.com/
Reply by Konki May 7, 20042004-05-07
"Jan Homuth" <jandothomuth@altium.com> wrote in message news:<2fv4kjF2kmdgU1@uni-berlin.de>...
> Konki, > the BOSCH "Kraftfahrtechnisches Handbuch" contains the complete list > > and the "Tabellenbuch Kraftfahrtechnik" Holland & Josenhans Verlag Order# > 351 ISBN 3-7782-3510-9 > pg. 184 ff also lists the signal numbers.
Tanks a lot. Any idea if (and where) I can get an English version of these? I searched the Bosch web site for the firs one and Springer-Verlag for the second one. No luck. Both sites have no idea about these. But, I found the second one listed at some German sites for sale. But, my German is not good enough. :-( Also, The DIN standard mentioned by Anastasios Tsitlakidis is avaialble only in German. :-( Doesn't the SAE or ISO have anything similar? Greetings, Konki
Reply by Jan Homuth May 6, 20042004-05-06
Dave,
yes indeed.
Kl is the abbreviation for 'klemme' which is the german term for connector /
connection.

regards
/jan
David Powell <davidpowell@nospam.sympatico.ca> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
MGAmc.6944$qP2.15049@news.indigo.ie...
> Generally they refer to anything supplied directly from the battery ( > permanently live ) as S30, and anything supplied off the ignition switch
as
> S15 supplied. > > are Kl15 & Kl30 just different names for these??? > > > > "Jan Homuth" <jandothomuth@altium.com> wrote in message > news:2fv4kjF2kmdgU1@uni-berlin.de... > > Konki, > > the BOSCH "Kraftfahrtechnisches Handbuch" contains the complete list > > > > and the "Tabellenbuch Kraftfahrtechnik" Holland & Josenhans Verlag
Order#
> > 351 ISBN 3-7782-3510-9 > > pg. 184 ff also lists the signal numbers. > > > > regards > > /jan > > > > > > Konki <nntpuser@konki.net> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: > > e8e5d61e.0405060155.5f6c78b6@posting.google.com... > > > Hello World, > > > I am trying to make a device to measure the fuel level in a > > > scooter. It is fitted with a fuel level sensor and I think I can find > > > the details. This is not the issue, just the background. :-) > > > While I was searching for some information regarding automotive > > > electronics for this project, I came across many articles where the > > > different cables/signals in automobiles are labelled as Kl15 Kl30 etc. > > > I now know the meaning of many of these. However, I want to know the > > > full list of the signals/cables. I searched the web and couldn't find > > > a reference. Does anybody know which standard defines these names? It > > > must be defined in some standards as it is apparently widely used > > > terminology in the automotive electronics industry. > > > Greetings, > > > Konki > > > > > >
Reply by David Powell May 6, 20042004-05-06
Generally they refer to anything supplied directly from the battery (
permanently live ) as S30, and anything supplied off the ignition switch as
S15 supplied.

are  Kl15 & Kl30 just different names for these???



"Jan Homuth" <jandothomuth@altium.com> wrote in message
news:2fv4kjF2kmdgU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Konki, > the BOSCH "Kraftfahrtechnisches Handbuch" contains the complete list > > and the "Tabellenbuch Kraftfahrtechnik" Holland & Josenhans Verlag Order# > 351 ISBN 3-7782-3510-9 > pg. 184 ff also lists the signal numbers. > > regards > /jan > > > Konki <nntpuser@konki.net> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: > e8e5d61e.0405060155.5f6c78b6@posting.google.com... > > Hello World, > > I am trying to make a device to measure the fuel level in a > > scooter. It is fitted with a fuel level sensor and I think I can find > > the details. This is not the issue, just the background. :-) > > While I was searching for some information regarding automotive > > electronics for this project, I came across many articles where the > > different cables/signals in automobiles are labelled as Kl15 Kl30 etc. > > I now know the meaning of many of these. However, I want to know the > > full list of the signals/cables. I searched the web and couldn't find > > a reference. Does anybody know which standard defines these names? It > > must be defined in some standards as it is apparently widely used > > terminology in the automotive electronics industry. > > Greetings, > > Konki > >
Reply by Jan Homuth May 6, 20042004-05-06
Konki,
the BOSCH "Kraftfahrtechnisches Handbuch" contains the complete list

and the  "Tabellenbuch Kraftfahrtechnik" Holland & Josenhans Verlag Order#
351 ISBN 3-7782-3510-9
pg. 184 ff also lists the signal numbers.

regards
/jan


Konki <nntpuser@konki.net> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
e8e5d61e.0405060155.5f6c78b6@posting.google.com...
> Hello World, > I am trying to make a device to measure the fuel level in a > scooter. It is fitted with a fuel level sensor and I think I can find > the details. This is not the issue, just the background. :-) > While I was searching for some information regarding automotive > electronics for this project, I came across many articles where the > different cables/signals in automobiles are labelled as Kl15 Kl30 etc. > I now know the meaning of many of these. However, I want to know the > full list of the signals/cables. I searched the web and couldn't find > a reference. Does anybody know which standard defines these names? It > must be defined in some standards as it is apparently widely used > terminology in the automotive electronics industry. > Greetings, > Konki
Reply by Anastasios Tsitlakidis May 6, 20042004-05-06
Konki schrieb:

[...]

> While I was searching for some information regarding automotive > electronics for this project, I came across many articles where the > different cables/signals in automobiles are labelled as Kl15 Kl30 etc. > I now know the meaning of many of these. However, I want to know the > full list of the signals/cables. I searched the web and couldn't find > a reference. Does anybody know which standard defines these names? It > must be defined in some standards as it is apparently widely used > terminology in the automotive electronics industry.
I know the standard DIN 72552-2 (German Standard), unfortunately I don't know the number of the international one.
Reply by Konki May 6, 20042004-05-06
Hello World,
      I am trying to make a device to measure the fuel level in a
scooter. It is fitted with a fuel level sensor and I think I can find
the details. This is not the issue, just the background. :-)
      While I was searching for some information regarding automotive
electronics for this project, I came across many articles where the
different cables/signals in automobiles are labelled as Kl15 Kl30 etc.
I now know the meaning of many of these. However, I want to know the
full list of the signals/cables. I searched the web and couldn't find
a reference. Does anybody know which standard defines these names? It
must be defined in some standards as it is apparently widely used
terminology in the automotive electronics industry.
Greetings,
Konki