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> Hi all,
>
> Is there a good alternative for the cygnal processors?
> - In System Programmable
> - In Application Programmable
> - Small packages (footprints) available (like the MLP11)
> - Not to expansive development tools
> - Wide range family
> - Cheap (cheaper then the silabs)
> - Reliable (not the same flash problems as the Silabs)
> - It don't have to be 8051 cores.
>
> Regards
> Gerard
>


Smallest package anyone can get with an AVR is the ATtiny13 in a  4 x 4 mm
but this is not ready for production by far.

-- 
Best Regards
Ulf at atmel dot com
These comments are intended to be my own opinion and they
may, or may not be shared by my employer, Atmel Sweden.

StackTools wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Is there a good alternative for the cygnal processors?
> - In System Programmable
> - In Application Programmable
> - Small packages (footprints) available (like the MLP11)
> - Not to expansive development tools
> - Wide range family
> - Cheap (cheaper then the silabs)
> - Reliable (not the same flash problems as the Silabs)
> - It don't have to be 8051 cores.
>
> Regards
> Gerard

Look at the ADuC8xx series from Analog Devices.  Like all they have their 
pros and cons. Some have multiple channels of 12/16/24 bit ADC and 12 bit 
DAC.  8051/8052 cores, 64K Flash, 4K EEPROM, 2K RAM.  All the usual 
peripherals.  Cheap eval kits.

Scott 

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:28:43 +1300, Jim Granville wrote:

> Tilmann Reh wrote:
> 
>> StackTools schrieb:
>> 
>> 
>>>Is there a good alternative for the cygnal processors?
>>>- In System Programmable
>>>- In Application Programmable
>>>- Small packages (footprints) available (like the MLP11)
>>>- Not to expansive development tools
>>>- Wide range family
>>>- Cheap (cheaper then the silabs)
>>>- Reliable (not the same flash problems as the Silabs)
> 
> ??
> 
>>>- It don't have to be 8051 cores.
>> 
>> 
>> Look at the LPC900 family from Philips, Atmel's AVR, or MSP430 from TI.
> 
>   Philips have a MLP11 sized package on their road map (LPC910x), the 
> other two do not, AFAIK.
>   Philips also lack the on chip debug, but they have lower speed/lower 
> Analog performance, and thus also lower prices.
> -jg

I use SiLabs SOC devices because I need the high resolution analog
peripherals. Haven't found anything else that will cut it. Unfortunately,
the analog performance comes with a hefty power hit...


Bob

Tilmann Reh wrote:

> StackTools schrieb:
> 
> 
>>Is there a good alternative for the cygnal processors?
>>- In System Programmable
>>- In Application Programmable
>>- Small packages (footprints) available (like the MLP11)
>>- Not to expansive development tools
>>- Wide range family
>>- Cheap (cheaper then the silabs)
>>- Reliable (not the same flash problems as the Silabs)

??

>>- It don't have to be 8051 cores.
> 
> 
> Look at the LPC900 family from Philips, Atmel's AVR, or MSP430 from TI.

  Philips have a MLP11 sized package on their road map (LPC910x), the 
other two do not, AFAIK.
  Philips also lack the on chip debug, but they have lower speed/lower 
Analog performance, and thus also lower prices.
-jg

StackTools schrieb:

> Is there a good alternative for the cygnal processors?
> - In System Programmable
> - In Application Programmable
> - Small packages (footprints) available (like the MLP11)
> - Not to expansive development tools
> - Wide range family
> - Cheap (cheaper then the silabs)
> - Reliable (not the same flash problems as the Silabs)
> - It don't have to be 8051 cores.

Look at the LPC900 family from Philips, Atmel's AVR, or MSP430 from TI.

-- 
Dipl.-Ing. Tilmann Reh
Autometer GmbH Siegen - Elektronik nach Ma�.
http://www.autometer.de

Hi all,

Is there a good alternative for the cygnal processors?
- In System Programmable
- In Application Programmable
- Small packages (footprints) available (like the MLP11)
- Not to expansive development tools
- Wide range family
- Cheap (cheaper then the silabs)
- Reliable (not the same flash problems as the Silabs)
- It don't have to be 8051 cores.

Regards
Gerard