Reply by Hans-Bernhard Broeker●April 8, 20042004-04-08
Pete Fenelon <pete@fenelon.com> wrote:
> Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com> wrote:
> > The functions of the cellphone and the PDA are merging.
> >
> Yes, into devices that are too big to be comfortable phones and too
> small to be comfortable PDAs.
That's only true as long as you actually plan to hold that "smart
phone" to your ear to make a phone call --- but that's just *soo*
20th-century ;-)
Since these thingies typically also have Bluetooth these days, the
canonical solution to that is a Bluetooth in-ear headset with
voice-dialling. I.e. you put that headset on, tap on its button and
say "call mr. smith". The smart phone, bulky as it may be, remains
right where it belongs --- in your briefcase or coat pocket.
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Reply by Guy Macon●April 8, 20042004-04-08
Pete Fenelon <pete@fenelon.com> says...
>
>Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com> wrote:
>
>> The functions of the cellphone and the PDA are merging.
>
>Yes, into devices that are too big to be comfortable phones and too
>small to be comfortable PDAs.
> The functions of the cellphone and the PDA are merging.
>
Yes, into devices that are too big to be comfortable phones and too
small to be comfortable PDAs.
pete
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>And there's simply more space on the phone than on the SIM, at least
>these days. I know a person with upwards of two *hundred* phonebook
>entries kept in a Nokia --- the SIM couldn't hold more than about a
>third of that.
The functions of the cellphone and the PDA are merging.
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Reply by Stephen Pelc●April 8, 20042004-04-08
On 8 Apr 2004 00:29:17 GMT, Hans-Bernhard Broeker
<broeker@physik.rwth-aachen.de> wrote:
>E.g., AFAIK SIMs fail to
>support stuff like multiple phone numbers (and other extra info, like
>email and physical addresses) per name.
My Samsung supports multiple numbers per name on the SIM, but I
suspect that it is faked by the software.
Stephen
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Reply by Hans-Bernhard Broeker●April 7, 20042004-04-07
David Huseby <dave@linuxprogrammer.org> wrote:
> > Are you aware that quite a lot of newer phones don't store phonebook
> > info on the SIM card any more, due to the limited memory available?
> Where do the nokia phones store the data?
In the phone's own non-volatile memory. Since those modern GSM
"smart" phones that include just about everything but the kitchen sink
in their feature list need megabytes of flash memory for their
operating system anyway, using part of that to store phone book data
in is essentially a feature for free. Plus, you get to decide more
freely what you store in those entries. E.g., AFAIK SIMs fail to
support stuff like multiple phone numbers (and other extra info, like
email and physical addresses) per name.
And there's simply more space on the phone than on the SIM, at least
these days. I know a person with upwards of two *hundred* phonebook
entries kept in a Nokia --- the SIM couldn't hold more than about a
third of that.
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Hans-Bernhard Broeker (broeker@physik.rwth-aachen.de)
Even if all the snow were burnt, ashes would remain.
Reply by Guy Macon●April 7, 20042004-04-07
Peter Johnson <peter@nospam.commlinx.com.au> says...
>"David Huseby" <dave@linuxprogrammer.org> wrote...
>>
>> Where do the nokia phones store the data?
>
>Most new Nokia phones seem to allow use of both the SIM and phone memory. On
>my 6610 it defaults to that mode and the relatively few numbers I have in
>the address book are all in the SIM card so I assume it uses that first
>until the SIM memory is full and then reverts to the phone memory. It has
>setup options for SIM, phone memory or SIM + phone.
Very nice option to have if you have multiple simm cards.
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Reply by Peter Johnson●April 7, 20042004-04-07
"David Huseby" <dave@linuxprogrammer.org> wrote in message
news:1078viv3l4ggj4b@corp.supernews.com...
> > Are you aware that quite a lot of newer phones don't store phonebook
> > info on the SIM card any more, due to the limited memory available?
>
> Where do the nokia phones store the data?
>
> Dave
Hi Dave,
Most new Nokia phones seem to allow use of both the SIM and phone memory. On
my 6610 it defaults to that mode and the relatively few numbers I have in
the address book are all in the SIM card so I assume it uses that first
until the SIM memory is full and then reverts to the phone memory. It has
setup options for SIM, phone memory or SIM + phone.
Regards,
Peter Johnson, CommLinx Solutions
http://www.commlinx.com.au/
Reply by David Huseby●April 7, 20042004-04-07
> Are you aware that quite a lot of newer phones don't store phonebook
> info on the SIM card any more, due to the limited memory available?
Where do the nokia phones store the data?
Dave
Reply by Max●April 4, 20042004-04-04
On 3 Apr 2004 19:10:29 -0800, Rajeev wrote:
>We are planning a phone product that interfaces to GSM SIM card to read the
>phonebook from it.
Are you aware that quite a lot of newer phones don't store phonebook
info on the SIM card any more, due to the limited memory available?
Several Nokia phones are like that, for example.
--
Max