Reply by Dilton McGowan II●March 16, 20042004-03-16
"Guy Macon" <http://www.guymacon.com> wrote in message
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>
> Chaos Master <wizard_of_yendorIHATESPAM@hotmail.com> says...
>
> >But some things that I use aren't supported: mainly webcam/voice chatting
via
> >MSN or YM and P2P programs (I won't consider using Wine as this is
cheating).
>
> Why won't you consider using Wine?
>
> Or, better yet, a real copy of Windows running under VMWare?
>
>
> --
> Guy Macon, Electronics Engineer & Project Manager for hire.
> Remember Doc Brown from the _Back to the Future_ movies? Do you
> have an "impossible" engineering project that only someone like
> Doc Brown can solve? My resume is at http://www.guymacon.com/
>
I used Win4Lin for a while, it didn't do Win2K but it did Win98 just fine.
Some Win98 tasks actually seem to run better IMHO. It's a lot cheaper than
VMWare which also works quite well and supports more Guest OS's.
These days I use Virtual PC running Linux on top of XP and that works well.
I do remember a post by Lewin some time back regarding some serious hacking
he had to do to fix his Virtual PC partition. So far it's been working ok
for me.
Reply by Chaos Master●March 16, 20042004-03-16
No B.O. n�mero <5517e6ce.0403152319.3d5d519c@posting.google.com>, de 15 Mar 2004
23:19:09 -0800, consta que francesco escreveu no sci.electronics.cad :
> Regarding P2P, there is a good version of eMule under Linux. It is
> call aMule, connects to ed2k network, shares with other eMule users
> and performs quite well. Try it.
eMule has far too much queues and is better for software (but I don't need WaReZ
under Linux!). I like Kazaa better for .mp3 .
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>But some things that I use aren't supported: mainly webcam/voice chatting via
>MSN or YM and P2P programs (I won't consider using Wine as this is cheating).
Why won't you consider using Wine?
Or, better yet, a real copy of Windows running under VMWare?
--
Guy Macon, Electronics Engineer & Project Manager for hire.
Remember Doc Brown from the _Back to the Future_ movies? Do you
have an "impossible" engineering project that only someone like
Doc Brown can solve? My resume is at http://www.guymacon.com/
Reply by Meindert Sprang●March 16, 20042004-03-16
"Robert Wessel" <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bea2590e.0403151922.46dc1b36@posting.google.com...
> "Meindert Sprang" <mhsprang@NOcustomSPAMware.nl> wrote in message
news:<40544519$1@news.nb.nu>...
> > The serial ports are completely accessible at register level in NT and
2000.
> > For the parallel port are numerous drivers available that, once
installed,
> > allow any program to access the parallel port at register level.
>
> Actually they're not. For *DOS* applications, a virtual device driver
> provides the appearance of direct access.
I know. But in the end, for the DOS application it looks as if the ports are
there.
Meindert
Reply by francesco●March 16, 20042004-03-16
Chaos Master <wizard_of_yendorIHATESPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<c35nhc$24hm45$7@ID-88878.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> No B.O. n�mero <4055b144$0$2797$61fed72c@news.rcn.com>, de Mon, 15 Mar 2004
> 08:36:03 -0500, consta que Chuck Harris escreveu no sci.electronics.cad :
>
> > Linux runs just fine for all my wordprocessing, spreadsheets,
> > presentation programs, math analyzers, PCB layout tools, Spice
> > simulations, gerber viewers, web browsers, email, CD players and
> > burners, DVD players, document scanners, printers, networking, midi
> > composers and players, web authoring, web hosting, the list is
> > endless... AND ALL OF IT IS FREE!
>
> But some things that I use aren't supported: mainly webcam/voice chatting via
> MSN or YM and P2P programs (I won't consider using Wine as this is cheating).
>
> Otherwise it is good.
Regarding P2P, there is a good version of eMule under Linux. It is
call aMule, connects to ed2k network, shares with other eMule users
and performs quite well. Try it.
Reply by Chuck Harris●March 16, 20042004-03-16
Hi CM,
You need to look a little harder. There have been video phone
applications and P2P programs available for linux for several years
now. I can't say that they work with with MSN, though.
-Chuck Harris
Chaos Master wrote:
> But some things that I use aren't supported: mainly webcam/voice chatting via
> MSN or YM and P2P programs (I won't consider using Wine as this is cheating).
>
> Otherwise it is good.
>
Reply by Robert Wessel●March 15, 20042004-03-15
"Meindert Sprang" <mhsprang@NOcustomSPAMware.nl> wrote in message news:<40544519$1@news.nb.nu>...
> "Jerry Avins" <jya@ieee.org> wrote in message
> news:40541909$0$2791$61fed72c@news.rcn.com...
>
> > Windows 95 and 98 let you control the serial and parallel ports without
> > hassle. Many programs that do physical I/O won't run on NT derivatives.
>
> The serial ports are completely accessible at register level in NT and 2000.
> For the parallel port are numerous drivers available that, once installed,
> allow any program to access the parallel port at register level.
Actually they're not. For *DOS* applications, a virtual device driver
provides the appearance of direct access. In short, what happens is
the application issues an I/O instruction, when generates a protection
fault. The VDD will have registered itself as a handler for some
range of ports (for example 3f8-3ff for COM1), and it gets a message
that an application has issued a byte/word/dword in/out to port
0xABCD, along with the contents of the registers. The VDD fakes the
operation, updates the registers, returns, and the application is
(more-or-less) none the wiser.
But, as you mentioned, there are drives (for example giveio.sys),
which will allow direct access, although they're certainly not there
by default.
Reply by Chaos Master●March 15, 20042004-03-15
No B.O. n�mero <4055b144$0$2797$61fed72c@news.rcn.com>, de Mon, 15 Mar 2004
08:36:03 -0500, consta que Chuck Harris escreveu no sci.electronics.cad :
> Linux runs just fine for all my wordprocessing, spreadsheets,
> presentation programs, math analyzers, PCB layout tools, Spice
> simulations, gerber viewers, web browsers, email, CD players and
> burners, DVD players, document scanners, printers, networking, midi
> composers and players, web authoring, web hosting, the list is
> endless... AND ALL OF IT IS FREE!
But some things that I use aren't supported: mainly webcam/voice chatting via
MSN or YM and P2P programs (I won't consider using Wine as this is cheating).
Otherwise it is good.
--
Chaos Master� - Porto Alegre, RS, Brazil
irc.brasnet.org - #xlinuxnews and #poa
marreka.no-ip.com (ainda n�o pronto)
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Reply by Jerry Avins●March 15, 20042004-03-15
David Brown wrote:
...
> If you are interested, the most common driver used is "giveio". If this
> driver is installed on an NT machine (including W2K and XP), then a program
> can simply open a file handle to this driver, and thereafter it has full
> access to the hardware on the PC. Converting a program that accesses the
> parallel port into one that runs safely and quickly on NT involves nothing
> more than adding this access (a couple of lines of code) and putting the
> giveio driver (freely available) into its install program. This is used by
> most programmers and debuggers that use the parallel port.
>
> For programs that don't have this support, there is another less safe
> solution. Install the "totalio" driver (also freely available). When you
> start it, *all* programs get full hardware access. It's therefore not the
> safest of solutions, and you should set the driver to manual startup (so
> that you use "net start totalio" and "net stop totalio" afterwards), but it
> will let any Win9x, or even Win16 or DOS program access the parallel port
> directly on NT.
Thank you. Knowing makes all the difference! On my way to highschool one
morning (bus, past the newsstand to the subway), I read the about the
astounding invention of point-contact transistors. The NY Times article
included a technical discussion and an illustration. I read it several
times. When I got home, I made one. It was oscillating before supper.
Knowing makes all the difference.
Jerry
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Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.
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Reply by Chuck Harris●March 15, 20042004-03-15
Hi,
It is easier and more reliable for me to just not use Windoze
at all. The only time I need it is to run my income tax programs,
so that doesn't happen all that often. Everything else I use
Linux.
Linux runs just fine for all my wordprocessing, spreadsheets,
presentation programs, math analyzers, PCB layout tools, Spice
simulations, gerber viewers, web browsers, email, CD players and
burners, DVD players, document scanners, printers, networking, midi
composers and players, web authoring, web hosting, the list is
endless... AND ALL OF IT IS FREE!
-Chuck Harris
Chaos Master wrote:
> Chuck Harris posted in sci.electronics.cad , in article
> <405531ae$0$2825$61fed72c@news.rcn.com>, at Sun, 14 Mar 2004 23:31:41 -0500:
>
>
>>The only time I use Windoze is to run a few legacy packages
>>that are too messed up to run under wine. All I have to do
>>to make Win98 SE SR2 crash is leave my laptop on over night.
>>The next morning, it will have no free memory, and won't even
>>be able to shut down correctly. This is caused by Explorer.
>
>
> Don't use Explorer; use Litestep or BB4WIN (BlackBox for Windows) as your main
> shell.
>