I was just gonna let this slide, but I can't: At 05:50 PM 2/19/2004 -0300, you wrote: > I dont insult everyone that disagreed, just to one people who >discriminate to people not having english like the first language. So now you're calling me a racist? You've got some nerve. English is not my first language either (surprised?) I did nothing last week but bring the facts as I see them to the table. It didn't get nasty until you started hurling insults at myself and anyone else that entered into the discussion. Even at that point, I didn't stoop to your level and start hurling insults back. Maybe you're discriminatory towards people whose English is better than yours. > Recheck the dissussion. Heated? I only be hard with that man, anyway i >already say sorrry to the list. Maybe you should apologize to the people who you were calling names. -Mike

--- In rabbit-semi@rabb..., German Pablo Gentile <listas.ggentile@c...> wrote: > El mi 18-02-2004 a las 20:46, Larry Kilmer escribi > > > I guess that you Brits ans us Americans want to help > > people but they should be thankful for the help. > > > I accept my statement may be out of bounds, but I stand by the fact that you did not accept my spending time to help and slapped me in the face. If you want to start over, I am willing to do so. I am not first world, second world, third world or any other world, I am an engineer who works for a living as I guess you do. Enjoy life, you can only smell the roses for so long. LK > That sentences is really amazing!!! Sound like the first world help the > rest of the world. > Never stop of surprise to me your feelings about the world. > Sounds like you are kidding, so i will take like that. > > Best regards. > > German.

....................... , ... i monumentum (1836), Alexander Pushkin Despite Russian language is another foreign language for me, some classics have said it almost two centuries ago... One of those with English not as a first language, George -----Original Message----- From: German Pablo Gentile [mailto:listas.ggentile@list...] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 10:51 PM To: Lista Rabbit Subject: Re: [rabbit-semi] RCM300 Cable El jue, 19-02-2004 a las 10:28, bhohentanner@bhoh... escribi?: > If you guys recall last weeks heated discussion over Linux and DC > compiler compatibility with it, the same gentleman(?) hurled insults > at anyone that disagreed with him. If he believes that he is already Bob: I dont insult everyone that disagreed, just to one people who discriminate to people not having english like the first language. Recheck the dissussion. Heated? I only be hard with that man, anyway i already say sorrry to the list. > doing evrything correctly and it still doesn't work, why is he asking > for help and not digging into the problem with some good old fashioned > troubleshooting. > I really do the things ok, i just answer the maxim differs between cables because i dont have bot cables. If larry read again the mail can see that. Best regards. German. Yahoo! Groups Links

El jue, 19-02-2004 a las 10:28, bhohentanner@bhoh... escribi > If you guys recall last weeks heated discussion over Linux and DC > compiler compatibility with it, the same gentleman(?) hurled insults > at anyone that disagreed with him. If he believes that he is already Bob: I dont insult everyone that disagreed, just to one people who discriminate to people not having english like the first language. Recheck the dissussion. Heated? I only be hard with that man, anyway i already say sorrry to the list. > doing evrything correctly and it still doesn't work, why is he asking > for help and not digging into the problem with some good old fashioned > troubleshooting. > I really do the things ok, i just answer the maxim differs between cables because i dont have bot cables. If larry read again the mail can see that. Best regards. German.

El mi 18-02-2004 a las 20:46, Larry Kilmer escribi > I guess that you Brits ans us Americans want to help > people but they should be thankful for the help. > That sentences is really amazing!!! Sound like the first world help the rest of the world. Never stop of surprise to me your feelings about the world. Sounds like you are kidding, so i will take like that. Best regards. German.

Thanks Patrick. I will do that. German. El jue, 19-02-2004 a las 09:49, Patrick Reitelbach escribi > Cut the shrink wrap off and replace the level shift chip with a > MAX3232. They work 3.0 - 5.5 v. Digikey has them. >

Larry Absolutely,. Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Kilmer" <lkkilmer@lkki...> To: <rabbit-semi@rabb...> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 11:46 PM Subject: Re: [rabbit-semi] RCM300 Cable > Thanks, > I don't mind helping but when someone else says it > isn't going to work I have a problem with someone who > has not done due diligence engineering to solve their > problem. > > I guess that you Brits ans us Americans want to help > people but they should be thankful for the help. > > LK > --- Ken Shail <ken@ken@...> wrote: > > Larry > > You were quite justified in taking offence. > > I really can not understand his "attitude". > > You obviously took some considerable time to try and > > help and then he > > criticised you for "a lot of words". > > This forum mainly consists of volunteers who go out > > of their way to help. > > That should appreciated. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Larry Kilmer" <lkkilmer@lkki...> > > To: <rabbit-semi@rabb...> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 10:27 PM > > Subject: Re: [rabbit-semi] RCM300 Cable > > > > > > > I was trying to help, if you want info on the > > Maxim > > > chip, go to their website that is what those of us > > who > > > build systems do. Attitude I don't need. > > > > > > Live long and prosper > > > > > > LK > > > --- German Pablo Gentile > > > <listas.ggentile@list...> wrote: > > > > El mi 18-02-2004 a las 18:06, Larry Kilmer > > > > escribi > > > > > A quick look at the cable pinouts for all RCM > > > > products indicates that > > > > > all debug cables are identical with the > > exception > > > > of power > > > > > requirements for the 232 converter. Again a > > > > cursory look at the power > > > > > requirements indicates that for the 2000 > > series > > > > Rabbits the 232 > > > > > converter is supplied with 5 volts while the > > 3000 > > > > series is supplied > > > > > with 3.3 volts. Possibly the 232 converter > > isn't > > > > getting enough power > > > > > to work. As another thought, I don't think > > the > > > > 3000 series RCM will > > > > > like being driven by a 5 volt power supply if > > you > > > > are using one. The > > > > > schematics for the development card have a 5 > > volt > > > > regulator for > > > > > support chips and a 3.3 volt regulator for > > feeding > > > > the processor and > > > > > those chips that need that voltage level. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Off course I already power the RCM300 with 3.3 > > v. > > > > and see the pinout and > > > > schematics, and ask about the maxim chip, so : A > > lot > > > > of words ans > > > > nothing to take... > > > > > > > > :) > > > > > > > > Best regards. > > > > > > > > German. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Yahoo! Groups Links >

If you guys recall last weeks heated discussion over Linux and DC compiler compatibility with it, the same gentleman(?) hurled insults at anyone that disagreed with him. If he believes that he is already doing evrything correctly and it still doesn't work, why is he asking for help and not digging into the problem with some good old fashioned troubleshooting.

Bob

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Thanks, I don't mind helping but when someone else says it isn't going to work I have a problem with someone who has not done due diligence engineering to solve their problem. I guess that you Brits ans us Americans want to help people but they should be thankful for the help. LK --- Ken Shail <k...@shail.co.uk> wrote: > Larry > You were quite justified in taking offence. > I really can not understand his "attitude". > You obviously took some considerable time to try and > help and then he > criticised you for "a lot of words". > This forum mainly consists of volunteers who go out > of their way to help. > That should appreciated. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry Kilmer" <l...@yahoo.com> > To: <r...@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 10:27 PM > Subject: Re: [rabbit-semi] RCM300 Cable > > I was trying to help, if you want info on the > Maxim > > chip, go to their website that is what those of us > who > > build systems do. Attitude I don't need. > > > > Live long and prosper > > > > LK > > --- German Pablo Gentile > > <l...@cyberiait.com.ar> wrote: > > > El mi 18-02-2004 a las 18:06, Larry Kilmer > > > escribi > > > > A quick look at the cable pinouts for all RCM > > > products indicates that > > > > all debug cables are identical with the > exception > > > of power > > > > requirements for the 232 converter. Again a > > > cursory look at the power > > > > requirements indicates that for the 2000 > series > > > Rabbits the 232 > > > > converter is supplied with 5 volts while the > 3000 > > > series is supplied > > > > with 3.3 volts. Possibly the 232 converter > isn't > > > getting enough power > > > > to work. As another thought, I don't think > the > > > 3000 series RCM will > > > > like being driven by a 5 volt power supply if > you > > > are using one. The > > > > schematics for the development card have a 5 > volt > > > regulator for > > > > support chips and a 3.3 volt regulator for > feeding > > > the processor and > > > > those chips that need that voltage level. > > > > > > > > > > Off course I already power the RCM300 with 3.3 > v. > > > and see the pinout and > > > schematics, and ask about the maxim chip, so : A > lot > > > of words ans > > > nothing to take... > > > > > > :) > > > > > > Best regards. > > > > > > German. > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cidU11 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/dN_tlB/TM ---------------------------------~- Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rabbit-semi/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: r...@yahoogroups.com <*

Cut the shrink wrap off and replace the level shift chip with a MAX3232. They work 3.0 - 5.5 v. Digikey has them. pr --- In rabbit-semi@rabb..., German Pablo Gentile <listas.ggentile@c...> wrote: > I have a RCM2100 dev kit. It comes with a programming cable 175- 0139 Rev > C. > > I'm trying to connect with a RCM3000 core and still can't. > > The MAX232 chip is a SP232ECN. > > What NAX232 chip comes with the new programming cable??? > > Here in Argentina the distributor (CIKA) don't have cables or kits of > that version. > Anyway, maybe i will have to build one, so i need to know what MAX232 > chip comes. > > TIA > -- > German Pablo Gentile

Thanks, I don't mind helping but when someone else says it isn't going to work I have a problem with someone who has not done due diligence engineering to solve their problem. I guess that you Brits ans us Americans want to help people but they should be thankful for the help. LK --- Ken Shail <ken@ken@...> wrote: > Larry > You were quite justified in taking offence. > I really can not understand his "attitude". > You obviously took some considerable time to try and > help and then he > criticised you for "a lot of words". > This forum mainly consists of volunteers who go out > of their way to help. > That should appreciated. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry Kilmer" <lkkilmer@lkki...> > To: <rabbit-semi@rabb...> > Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 10:27 PM > Subject: Re: [rabbit-semi] RCM300 Cable > > I was trying to help, if you want info on the > Maxim > > chip, go to their website that is what those of us > who > > build systems do. Attitude I don't need. > > > > Live long and prosper > > > > LK > > --- German Pablo Gentile > > <listas.ggentile@list...> wrote: > > > El mi 18-02-2004 a las 18:06, Larry Kilmer > > > escribi > > > > A quick look at the cable pinouts for all RCM > > > products indicates that > > > > all debug cables are identical with the > exception > > > of power > > > > requirements for the 232 converter. Again a > > > cursory look at the power > > > > requirements indicates that for the 2000 > series > > > Rabbits the 232 > > > > converter is supplied with 5 volts while the > 3000 > > > series is supplied > > > > with 3.3 volts. Possibly the 232 converter > isn't > > > getting enough power > > > > to work. As another thought, I don't think > the > > > 3000 series RCM will > > > > like being driven by a 5 volt power supply if > you > > > are using one. The > > > > schematics for the development card have a 5 > volt > > > regulator for > > > > support chips and a 3.3 volt regulator for > feeding > > > the processor and > > > > those chips that need that voltage level. > > > > > > > > > > Off course I already power the RCM300 with 3.3 > v. > > > and see the pinout and > > > schematics, and ask about the maxim chip, so : A > lot > > > of words ans > > > nothing to take... > > > > > > :) > > > > > > Best regards. > > > > > > German. > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________