Never tried Real Basic. I have used Tandy Basic first computer back in 1980, GWBasic, Quick Basic, HP Basic which I used to program a lot of equipment using HPIB, then to Fourth then to Visual Basic which is about the time I started into these Micro processors. Ken Smith --- In basicx@basi..., "wurlitzer28" <craig.whitley@a...> > Ken, have you, or anyone on this BB, tried Real Basic? It is supposed > to be able to take a VB6 application and compile it for the Mac and > Linux. >

Thanks very much. The VB 5.0 is a good compromise. Anything that will flatten the learning curve a bit is helpful. The Netmedia Software documentation presumes a great deal of knowledge about VB [never explains where 'Main' comes from] and the newest version drags you off into topics of little concern for BX-24 applications, particularly the internet. I am forever trying to find the shortest text to introduce me to a topic whilst computer literature seems to love huge volumes. There is a lot to be gained by an introductory overview, rather than merely another lengthy tutorial. > > This page has a short description of Visual Basic 5.0 Controls Creation > Edition: > http://phis.info/?p/search&pl=&typ=Compiler > > It is free and should work as a learning tool. > > If that link doesn't work, it points to the Microsoft download site: > http://download.microsoft.com/msdownload/sbn/vbcce/vb5ccein.exe > > If Microsoft doesn't really have it anymore, do a serach for vb5ccein.exe > > -- > Jeff Sampson > http://tcrobots.org/members/jsamp.htm >

> --- In basicx@basi..., "G. Kramer Herzog" <hwanghetw@y...> > wrote: > >>I downloaded Microsoft's Beta of its newest Visual Basic, but have >>begun to have doubts about it being optimal for learning to program >>the BX-24 and related family. > Your doubts are well-founded. BasicX is roughly based on VB6 whereas > the latest Microsoft version is VB.net. This page has a short description of Visual Basic 5.0 Controls Creation Edition: http://phis.info/?p/search&pl=&typ=Compiler It is free and should work as a learning tool. If that link doesn't work, it points to the Microsoft download site: http://download.microsoft.com/msdownload/sbn/vbcce/vb5ccein.exe If Microsoft doesn't really have it anymore, do a serach for vb5ccein.exe -- Jeff Sampson http://tcrobots.org/members/jsamp.htm

--- In basicx@basi..., "Kenneth Smith" <kensmith52@y...> wrote: > > Microsoft is starting to lose it in several ways. I started with VB on > version 3, bought 4 and 6. I can tell a difference between 4 and 6 > that microsoft was going downhill. I write professionally also for > custom projects. I work with many micro's in designing and just > controlling equipment. I am starting to setup another office as I want > to update my computers. I am leaning to Linux now with opensource for > spreadsheets,word processing. I already changed to Firefox for a web > browser and thunderbird for email and it has stopped almost all virus's. Ken, have you, or anyone on this BB, tried Real Basic? It is supposed to be able to take a VB6 application and compile it for the Mac and Linux. I write a ton of industrial control HMIs using VB5/VB6 and it is a natural for the BasicX series IMO. Yes, there are the occasional gotchas but by and large I can easily use my existing VB6 knowledge on the NetMedia stuff. I never use the NetMedia editor except when I am ready to compile/download. VB.Net did not offer anything I needed for industrial control or BasicX for that matter and there were a few 3rd party drivers that puked on VB.Net.

Ken, I went to Power Basic, but as I also write for PPC I ended up using BCX. Similar syntax, not as polished as PB but open source, and of course free. see yahoo groups or rjpcomputing.com Ian Kenneth Smith wrote: >I am thinking now I might try Power Basic. It has a lot of advantages >and speed. > >Ken Smith

Microsoft is starting to lose it in several ways. I started with VB on version 3, bought 4 and 6. I can tell a difference between 4 and 6 that microsoft was going downhill. I write professionally also for custom projects. I work with many micro's in designing and just controlling equipment. I am starting to setup another office as I want to update my computers. I am leaning to Linux now with opensource for spreadsheets,word processing. I already changed to Firefox for a web browser and thunderbird for email and it has stopped almost all virus's. I am in the process of designing a new type of dehydrator using the Basicx. I look at the cost of the total project to keep it low and this one had less parts count to use. I am thinking now I might try Power Basic. It has a lot of advantages and speed. Ken Smith --- In basicx@basi..., no6b@r... wrote: > IIRC VB6 has already been discontinued by Microsoft. However, I wouldn't > expect it to "disappear" anytime soon. I use it professionally & plan to > continue to do so for many years to come. .NET just doesn't offer me > anything I need, & I don't see any pressing need to dump all the ActiveX > controls I've acquired over the years. > > Bob NO6B >

At 19:15 11/12/2005 +0000, you wrote: >Would you go as far as to say one should buy VB v6.0 rather than use >the free VB.net? I think it is about $100USD. > >I am really straddled by the idea of buying software that may be phased >out soon. IIRC VB6 has already been discontinued by Microsoft. However, I wouldn't expect it to "disappear" anytime soon. I use it professionally & plan to continue to do so for many years to come. .NET just doesn't offer me anything I need, & I don't see any pressing need to dump all the ActiveX controls I've acquired over the years. Bob NO6B

I don't use BasicX anymore but I do still use VB6. The book I've always used for it is called Visual Basic 6 In Plain English, written by Brian Overland (he is one of the Project Leads on the VB Development Team at MS). His book is easy to use and, you can't go wrong with this guy as your source! Ken ------ President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html We offer complete Kenwood TKR repeater packages! We are now an authorized Telewave Dealer! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net

--- In basicx@basi..., Tom Becker <gtbecker@r...> wrote: > Search eBay for Visual Basic 6.0 Learning Edition. I have used this. It came in the back of a book "Visual Basic 6: How to Program" by Deitel, Dietel and Nieto. The only catch is that it doesn't include on-line help. However, there's plenty of information on the web. The book itself would do in a pinch but I suspect that there are better ones.