On 19 Jan 2004 18:57:29 -0800, the renowned Eric Smith
<eric-no-spam-for-me@brouhaha.com> wrote:

>Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> writes:
>> There are not now, nor will there likely ever be, flash versions of
>> any PIC with 12-bit core, including the 12C508/9. 
>
>Not true.  There's a 16F54 and a 16F57, both of which use are flash
>versions of the 12-bit core.

Indeed, so I see, but they don't seem to be real (yet). The estimate
is mid-July 2004. There was also supposed to be an 18F in the 8-pin
package but it never made it.. 

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Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> writes:
> There are not now, nor will there likely ever be, flash versions of
> any PIC with 12-bit core, including the 12C508/9. 

Not true.  There's a 16F54 and a 16F57, both of which use are flash
versions of the 12-bit core.

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 18:12:06 +0100, the renowned "Henrik Nielsen"
<Henrik@ic-teknik.dk> wrote:

>Hi
>Funny to see i look at the new MPlab
>      MPLAB&#4294967295; IDE v6.41 Interim Release Software
>        MPLAB PM3 device programmer is fully supported in this interim
>release. Components with new device support include:
>      MPASM
>      18F6410 18F6490 18F8410 18F8490
>      18F2585 18F2680 18F4585 18F4680
>      16F505 16F636
>      12F635 12F508 12F509 12F683
>
>And have a look at this link
>http://www.microchip.com/1010/pline/picmicro/category/digictrl/8kbytes/devices/16f54/index.htm
>
>Kind regards
>   Henrik

Cool! The 12F508/509 whould be it. I don't see any actually available,
tho.  Thanks. 


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Hi
Funny to see i look at the new MPlab
      MPLAB&#4294967295; IDE v6.41 Interim Release Software
        MPLAB PM3 device programmer is fully supported in this interim
release. Components with new device support include:
      MPASM
      18F6410 18F6490 18F8410 18F8490
      18F2585 18F2680 18F4585 18F4680
      16F505 16F636
      12F635 12F508 12F509 12F683

And have a look at this link
http://www.microchip.com/1010/pline/picmicro/category/digictrl/8kbytes/devices/16f54/index.htm

Kind regards
   Henrik

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> On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 11:28:56 +0000, the renowned Dave
> <dave@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Hi all,
> >
> >As above. Is there a flash device substitute for the 8 pin 12C509
> >device?
> >
> >I don't seem to be able to get a definitive answer anywhere (even
> >Microchip)
>
> There are not now, nor will there likely ever be, flash versions of
> any PIC with 12-bit core, including the 12C508/9.
>
> Best regards,
> Spehro Pefhany
> -- 
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> speff@interlog.com             Info for manufacturers:
http://www.trexon.com
> Embedded software/hardware/analog  Info for designers:
http://www.speff.com

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 11:28:56 +0000, the renowned Dave
<dave@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>As above. Is there a flash device substitute for the 8 pin 12C509 
>device?
>
>I don't seem to be able to get a definitive answer anywhere (even 
>Microchip)

There are not now, nor will there likely ever be, flash versions of
any PIC with 12-bit core, including the 12C508/9. 

Best regards, 
Spehro Pefhany
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On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 11:54:51 +0000, Dave <dave@hotmail.com> wrote:

>In message <400a70f8$0$23465$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>, Leon Heller 
><aqzf13@dsl.pipex.com> expounds
>>
>>
>>Dave wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>  As above. Is there a flash device substitute for the 8 pin 12C509 
>>>device?
>>>  I don't seem to be able to get a definitive answer anywhere (even 
>>>Microchip)
>>
>>What about the 12F629 etc.? Flash, eight pins and lots more stuff in it 
>>than the 12C508.
>>
>>Leon
>Can I use 12C509 code in it without modification?

Not quite, but changes should be fairly trivial unless extensive use is made of RAM banking.
Mostly removing page-preselect stuff and changing RAM/SFR locations.

In message <400a70f8$0$23465$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>, Leon Heller 
<aqzf13@dsl.pipex.com> expounds
>
>
>Dave wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>  As above. Is there a flash device substitute for the 8 pin 12C509 
>>device?
>>  I don't seem to be able to get a definitive answer anywhere (even 
>>Microchip)
>
>What about the 12F629 etc.? Flash, eight pins and lots more stuff in it 
>than the 12C508.
>
>Leon
Can I use 12C509 code in it without modification?
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Dave wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> As above. Is there a flash device substitute for the 8 pin 12C509 device?
> 
> I don't seem to be able to get a definitive answer anywhere (even 
> Microchip)

What about the 12F629 etc.? Flash, eight pins and lots more stuff in it 
than the 12C508.

Leon
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Hi all,

As above. Is there a flash device substitute for the 8 pin 12C509 
device?

I don't seem to be able to get a definitive answer anywhere (even 
Microchip)

TIA
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