Am Montag, 14. Januar 2013 07:25:07 UTC schrieb Jukka Marin:
> On 2013-01-14, manu28101992@googlemail.com <manu28101992@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > No question, i tried out many softwares on the market, and EAGLE'S PCB software is the best in my opinion.
>
> > The support and tutorials section is great, too!
>
>
>
> How many 8-layer boards with multiple 200...400 pin BGA devices on it have
>
> you desgined using Eagle?
>
>
>
> -jm
Hey Jukka,
I designed several 8-layer boards. But in the last weeks I was short in time and had no new projects.
Btw, i understand the discussion of circuit designing for fun.
Back in the days it was a hobby of mine and when it turned out that people are interested in my PCBs, I was fine with it, too.
Reply by Jukka Marin●January 14, 20132013-01-14
On 2013-01-14, manu28101992@googlemail.com <manu28101992@googlemail.com> wrote:
> No question, i tried out many softwares on the market, and EAGLE'S PCB software is the best in my opinion.
> The support and tutorials section is great, too!
How many 8-layer boards with multiple 200...400 pin BGA devices on it have
you desgined using Eagle?
-jm
Reply by ●January 13, 20132013-01-13
No question, i tried out many softwares on the market, and EAGLE'S PCB software is the best in my opinion.
The support and tutorials section is great, too!
http://www.cadsoftusa.com/
Reply by mike●January 13, 20132013-01-13
On 1/11/2013 7:40 AM, rickman wrote:
> On 1/6/2013 10:17 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> On 2013-01-05, mike<ham789@netzero.net> wrote:
>>> On 1/4/2013 3:43 AM, manu28101992@googlemail.com wrote:
>>>> In my opinion, it's clearly EAGLES PCB Design software.
>>>> You can try out the free trial first.
>>>> The support and tutorials are awesome, too!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.cadsoftusa.com/
>>>
>>> At the risk of stating the obvious...
>>> If money is no object, pick up the phone and farm out the PCB
>>> design...or the schematic...or the project.
>>>
>>> Life is too short to waste on things where money is no object.
>>
>> There are those of us for which designing and laying out a PCB is a
>> hobby. It's something we do for fun. Paying somebody else to do it
>> would be like paying somebody else to go skiing for me.
>
> I can't say I don't enjoy my work, but it is still work. If I could make
> money paying other people to work, I would do that in a heartbeat...
> that actually sounds like a good idea. I'll call that "running a
> company"! Brilliant! I just need to patent the idea.
>
>
>>> Send all that excess money to me. I'll put it to good use.
>>
>> Sorry don't understand "excess money"... ;)
>
> I understand the concept, but I believe it is an oxymoron, no?
>
> Rick
Most people with a cellphone or an iAnything are behaving
like they have excess money.
Many people who were taught to plan ahead have excess money.
Don't know anything about oxy, but the rest is relevant. ;-)
Reply by rickman●January 11, 20132013-01-11
On 1/6/2013 10:17 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2013-01-05, mike<ham789@netzero.net> wrote:
>> On 1/4/2013 3:43 AM, manu28101992@googlemail.com wrote:
>>> In my opinion, it's clearly EAGLES PCB Design software.
>>> You can try out the free trial first.
>>> The support and tutorials are awesome, too!
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.cadsoftusa.com/
>>
>> At the risk of stating the obvious...
>> If money is no object, pick up the phone and farm out the PCB
>> design...or the schematic...or the project.
>>
>> Life is too short to waste on things where money is no object.
>
> There are those of us for which designing and laying out a PCB is a
> hobby. It's something we do for fun. Paying somebody else to do it
> would be like paying somebody else to go skiing for me.
I can't say I don't enjoy my work, but it is still work. If I could
make money paying other people to work, I would do that in a
heartbeat... that actually sounds like a good idea. I'll call that
"running a company"! Brilliant! I just need to patent the idea.
>> Send all that excess money to me. I'll put it to good use.
>
> Sorry don't understand "excess money"... ;)
I understand the concept, but I believe it is an oxymoron, no?
Rick
Reply by Noob●January 6, 20132013-01-06
Grant Edwards wrote:
> Unfortunately that appears to be available just for a hobby OS.
/me scratches head
First time I've seen Windows referred to as a hobby OS.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altium_Designer
Are you looking for Linux support? some other Unix variant?
Regards.
Reply by Spehro Pefhany●January 6, 20132013-01-06
On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 01:55:41 -0600, the renowned Robert Wessel
<robertwessel2@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 04 Jan 2013 17:40:00 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
><speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 22:14:44 +0000 (UTC), Grant Edwards
>><invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2013-01-04, Mark Borgerson <mborgerson@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I wonder if you could turn a 19" monitor on its side and get the OS
>>>> to swap the axes.
>>>
>>>Sure. All my Samsung LCD monitors will rotate into a "vertical"
>>>position.
>>
>>Unfortunately, they don't often offer that option with monitors larger
>>than about 24".
>
>
>Most (all?) monitors have provisions for mounting screws - usually
>four threaded holes in a rectangle on the back. Just like most (all?)
>TVs.
>You'd think that in c.a.e needing a sideways monitor stand would be
>more an invitation to haul out some tools than an actual problem...
>;-)
Nothing a few hundred extra dollars won't solve.. eg. Ergotron.
Of course it's possible to hack something together, especially if you
have a bunch of 80/20 lying around.
http://www.8020.net/
I wonder what happens when you put a screw that's too long into the
mounting holes. Probably nothing good.
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
Reply by Paul●January 6, 20132013-01-06
In article <kcc4hg$aii$3@reader1.panix.com>, invalid@invalid.invalid
says...
>
> On 2013-01-05, mike <ham789@netzero.net> wrote:
> > On 1/4/2013 3:43 AM, manu28101992@googlemail.com wrote:
> >> In my opinion, it's clearly EAGLES PCB Design software.
> >> You can try out the free trial first.
> >> The support and tutorials are awesome, too!
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.cadsoftusa.com/
> >
> > At the risk of stating the obvious...
> > If money is no object, pick up the phone and farm out the PCB
> > design...or the schematic...or the project.
> >
> > Life is too short to waste on things where money is no object.
>
> There are those of us for which designing and laying out a PCB is a
> hobby. It's something we do for fun. Paying somebody else to do it
> would be like paying somebody else to go skiing for me.
>
> > Send all that excess money to me. I'll put it to good use.
>
> Sorry don't understand "excess money"... ;)
In article <kcc4hg$aii$3@reader1.panix.com>, invalid@invalid.invalid
says...
>
> On 2013-01-05, mike <ham789@netzero.net> wrote:
> > On 1/4/2013 3:43 AM, manu28101992@googlemail.com wrote:
> >> In my opinion, it's clearly EAGLES PCB Design software.
> >> You can try out the free trial first.
> >> The support and tutorials are awesome, too!
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.cadsoftusa.com/
> >
> > At the risk of stating the obvious...
> > If money is no object, pick up the phone and farm out the PCB
> > design...or the schematic...or the project.
> >
> > Life is too short to waste on things where money is no object.
>
> There are those of us for which designing and laying out a PCB is a
> hobby. It's something we do for fun. Paying somebody else to do it
> would be like paying somebody else to go skiing for me.
>
Nice observation. And, as far as hobbies go, you can visit any
marina and observe the "money is no object" aspect--often at
a scale that overwhelms the cost of a good PCB layout program.
> > Send all that excess money to me. I'll put it to good use.
>
> Sorry don't understand "excess money"... ;)
Mark Borgerson
Reply by Grant Edwards●January 6, 20132013-01-06
On 2013-01-05, mike <ham789@netzero.net> wrote:
> On 1/4/2013 3:43 AM, manu28101992@googlemail.com wrote:
>> In my opinion, it's clearly EAGLES PCB Design software.
>> You can try out the free trial first.
>> The support and tutorials are awesome, too!
>>
>>
>> http://www.cadsoftusa.com/
>
> At the risk of stating the obvious...
> If money is no object, pick up the phone and farm out the PCB
> design...or the schematic...or the project.
>
> Life is too short to waste on things where money is no object.
There are those of us for which designing and laying out a PCB is a
hobby. It's something we do for fun. Paying somebody else to do it
would be like paying somebody else to go skiing for me.
> Send all that excess money to me. I'll put it to good use.
Sorry don't understand "excess money"... ;)
--
Grant