Reply by Onestone November 22, 20052005-11-22
You won't get this in IAR, it is a technical feature of the chip. Look

in the technical data sheets and user guide. they will give you the 
memory address. Then look in the reference for the compiler to find out 
how to make an address fixed in IAR.

Al

alain_deloc wrote:

>What I meant was that I have't found any
(none, nada ) reference about 
>information memory in IAR's help.
>I think there has to be a #pragma directive or a keyword (something 
>like const, info) but I haven't seen nothing yet (maybe i'm
getting 
>old :) ).
>
>Thank you for your answer(s).
>
>
>--- In msp430@msp4..., Rachel Adamec <adamec.rachel@v...> 
>wrote:
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>>>From: alain_deloc <alain_deloc@y...>
>>>Subject: [msp430] Re: IAR info memory  &&  fuse blower.
>>>      
>>>
>>>Hmm, I guess no one uses information memory in IAR.
>>>What about the fuse blower....?
>>>Someone..., anyone...
>>>
>>>Yahoo groups really (REALLY) suck. How hard would it be to switch 
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>to 
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>>>phpBB style forum ??
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>>yahoo is easily found... we're here... others have tried to 
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>establish their own spaces... you can, too, if you would like.
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>>>--- In msp430@msp4..., "alain_deloc"
<alain_deloc@y...> 
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>wrote:
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>>>>How can I use the information memory of a F413 within IAR.
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>>the Information Memory is a special case of the standard FLASH 
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>memory. Segments are smaller, but it is segmented, written to, read 
>from, cleared, etc. the same way... see Chapter 5 - FLASH Memory 
>Controler of slau049e.pdf or find the equivalent for the F4xx series.
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>>>>I haven't found anything in IAR's help or searching
through this 
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>>>forum.
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>>>>Does anyone know of a fuse blower schematic (except mspfet.
>>>>        
>>>>
>helios.biz 
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>>>>wich is dead) and/or a program that I could use in that matter.
I 
>>>>really need to protect some chips and I don't have the cash
to 
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>buy a 
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>>>>professional programmer. I already have a MSP-FET and a homebrew

>>>>        
>>>>
>BSL 
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>>>>but i don't think I can use these to burn fuses.
>>>>        
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>>I use the Elprotronic USB-MSP430-FPA. it wasn't expensive, as I 
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>recall, and the SW isn't too bad... hey, it's worked for about
3000 
>units and it was used in development. I don't know your situation, but 
>roll-your-own tends not to be very cost effective.
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>>from their website (www.elprotronic.com)
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>>FlashPro430 (USB-MSP430-FPA)Includes USB-MSP430-FPA-2.x adapter  and 
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>FlashPro430 software
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>>USB-MSP430-FPA-STD JTAG & BSL Standard Software Version $293US
>>
>>USB-MSP430-FPA-LJB Lite-JTAG & BSL Software Version $215US
>> 
>>USB-MSP430-FPA-LJ Lite-JTAG Software Version $180US
>>
>>USB-MSP430-FPA-UNIV    JTAG & BSL Standard Version -  University 
>>    
>>
>Program $206US
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>>so ~$200US should get you a system that will do what you want it to 
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>do.
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>>Good Luck
>>
>>Rachel Adamec
>>Norristown, PA, USA
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Beginning Microcontrollers with the MSP430

Reply by alain_deloc November 22, 20052005-11-22
What I meant was that I have't found any (none, nada ) reference about

information memory in IAR's help.
I think there has to be a #pragma directive or a keyword (something 
like const, info) but I haven't seen nothing yet (maybe i'm getting 
old :) ).

Thank you for your answer(s).


--- In msp430@msp4..., Rachel Adamec <adamec.rachel@v...> 
wrote:
>
> >From: alain_deloc <alain_deloc@y...>
> >Subject: [msp430] Re: IAR info memory  &&  fuse blower.
> 
> >Hmm, I guess no one uses information memory in IAR.
> >What about the fuse blower....?
> >Someone..., anyone...
> >
> >Yahoo groups really (REALLY) suck. How hard would it be to switch 
to 
> >phpBB style forum ??
> 
> yahoo is easily found... we're here... others have tried to 
establish their own spaces... you can, too, if you would like.
> 
> >
> >--- In msp430@msp4..., "alain_deloc" <alain_deloc@y...>

wrote:
> >>
> >> How can I use the information memory of a F413 within IAR.
> 
> the Information Memory is a special case of the standard FLASH 
memory. Segments are smaller, but it is segmented, written to, read 
from, cleared, etc. the same way... see Chapter 5 - FLASH Memory 
Controler of slau049e.pdf or find the equivalent for the F4xx series.
> 
> 
> >> I haven't found anything in IAR's help or searching
through this 
> >forum.
> >> 
> >> Does anyone know of a fuse blower schematic (except mspfet.
helios.biz 
> >> wich is dead) and/or a program that I
could use in that matter. I 
> >> really need to protect some chips and I don't have the cash
to 
buy a 
> >> professional programmer. I already have a
MSP-FET and a homebrew 
BSL 
> >> but i don't think I can use these to
burn fuses.
> 
> 
> I use the Elprotronic USB-MSP430-FPA. it wasn't expensive, as I 
recall, and the SW isn't too bad... hey, it's worked for about
3000 
units and it was used in development. I don't know your situation, but 
roll-your-own tends not to be very cost effective.
> 
> 
> from their website (www.elprotronic.com)
> 
> FlashPro430 (USB-MSP430-FPA)Includes USB-MSP430-FPA-2.x adapter  and 
FlashPro430 software
> 
> USB-MSP430-FPA-STD JTAG & BSL Standard Software Version $293US
> 
> USB-MSP430-FPA-LJB Lite-JTAG & BSL Software Version $215US
>  
> USB-MSP430-FPA-LJ Lite-JTAG Software Version $180US
> 
> USB-MSP430-FPA-UNIV    JTAG & BSL Standard Version -  University 
Program $206US
> 
> 
> so ~$200US should get you a system that will do what you want it to 
do.
> 
> 
> 
> Good Luck
> 
> Rachel Adamec
> Norristown, PA, USA
>





Reply by Rachel Adamec November 22, 20052005-11-22
>From: alain_deloc <alain_deloc@alai...>
>Subject: [msp430] Re: IAR info memory  && 
fuse blower.

>Hmm, I guess no one uses information memory in IAR.
>What about the fuse blower....?
>Someone..., anyone...
>
>Yahoo groups really (REALLY) suck. How hard would it be to switch to 
>phpBB style forum ??

yahoo is easily found... we're here... others have tried to establish their
own spaces... you can, too, if you would like.

>
>--- In msp430@msp4..., "alain_deloc" <alain_deloc@y...>
wrote:
>>
>> How can I use the information memory of a F413 within IAR.

the Information Memory is a special case of the standard FLASH memory. Segments
are smaller, but it is segmented, written to, read from, cleared, etc. the same
way... see Chapter 5 - FLASH Memory Controler of slau049e.pdf or find the
equivalent for the F4xx series.


>> I haven't found anything in IAR's
help or searching through this 
>forum.
>> 
>> Does anyone know of a fuse blower schematic (except mspfet.helios.biz 
>> wich is dead) and/or a program that I could use in that matter. I 
>> really need to protect some chips and I don't have the cash to buy
a 
>> professional programmer. I already have a MSP-FET and a homebrew BSL 
>> but i don't think I can use these to burn fuses.


I use the Elprotronic USB-MSP430-FPA. it wasn't expensive, as I recall, and
the SW isn't too bad... hey, it's worked for about 3000 units and it
was used in development. I don't know your situation, but roll-your-own
tends not to be very cost effective.


from their website (www.elprotronic.com)

FlashPro430 (USB-MSP430-FPA)Includes USB-MSP430-FPA-2.x adapter  and FlashPro430
software

USB-MSP430-FPA-STD JTAG & BSL Standard Software Version $293US

USB-MSP430-FPA-LJB Lite-JTAG & BSL Software Version $215US
 
USB-MSP430-FPA-LJ Lite-JTAG Software Version $180US

USB-MSP430-FPA-UNIV    JTAG & BSL Standard Version -  University Program
$206US


so ~$200US should get you a system that will do what you want it to do.



Good Luck

Rachel Adamec
Norristown, PA, USA


Reply by Onestone November 22, 20052005-11-22
Lots of us use it, I don't use IARs compiler though. In assembler its 
simple, but you are not very clear with your question, hence most people 
left it alone. Do you want to write information memory during operation, 
or simply store data there? If you just want to store data there you 
only need to declare and initialise that data using your compilers 
syntax for fixing a memory location. If you want to write during 
operation then Ti has an app note on this. If it were assembler I'd give 
you samples.

Cheers

Al

alain_deloc wrote:

>Hmm, I guess no one uses information memory in IAR.
>What about the fuse blower....?
>Someone..., anyone...
>
>Yahoo groups really (REALLY) suck. How hard would it be to switch to 
>phpBB style forum ??
>
>--- In msp430@msp4..., "alain_deloc" <alain_deloc@y...>
wrote:
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>>Hello.
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>>How can I use the information memory of a F413 within IAR.
>>I haven't found anything in IAR's help or searching through
this 
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>forum.
>  
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>>Does anyone know of a fuse blower schematic (except mspfet.helios.biz 
>>wich is dead) and/or a program that I could use in that matter. I 
>>really need to protect some chips and I don't have the cash to buy
a 
>>professional programmer. I already have a MSP-FET and a homebrew BSL 
>>but i don't think I can use these to burn fuses.
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>>Thank you.
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Reply by alain_deloc November 22, 20052005-11-22
Hmm, I guess no one uses information memory in IAR.
What about the fuse blower....?
Someone..., anyone...

Yahoo groups really (REALLY) suck. How hard would it be to switch to 
phpBB style forum ??

--- In msp430@msp4..., "alain_deloc" <alain_deloc@y...> wrote:
>
> Hello.
> 
> How can I use the information memory of a F413 within IAR.
> I haven't found anything in IAR's help or searching through this 
forum.
> 
> Does anyone know of a fuse blower schematic (except mspfet.helios.biz 
> wich is dead) and/or a program that I could use in that matter. I 
> really need to protect some chips and I don't have the cash to buy a 
> professional programmer. I already have a MSP-FET and a homebrew BSL 
> but i don't think I can use these to burn fuses.
> 
> Thank you.
>





Reply by Paul Curtis November 22, 20052005-11-22
Alain, 

> Hmm, I guess no one uses information memory in
IAR.
> What about the fuse blower....?

Try a PRGS430 or GANG430 or USBP Pro or FET430UIF or Elprotronic FPA or
Segger J-Link 430 or...  I'm not sure if there is a "free" one
around
much less one that's capable of being driven by any software.

> Someone..., anyone...
> 
> Yahoo groups really (REALLY) suck. How hard would it be to switch to 
> phpBB style forum ??

They're OK if you can stand the advertising.  E-mail interface is just
what I require and I'm happy with them.  phpBBS is too prone to attack
and is a common target (witness the AVR Freaks outages).

--
Paul Curtis, Rowley Associates Ltd  http://www.rowley.co.uk
CrossWorks for MSP430, ARM, AVR and now MAXQ processors

Reply by alain_deloc November 21, 20052005-11-21
Hello.

How can I use the information memory of a F413 within IAR.
I haven't found anything in IAR's help or searching through this
forum.

Does anyone know of a fuse blower schematic (except mspfet.helios.biz 
wich is dead) and/or a program that I could use in that matter. I 
really need to protect some chips and I don't have the cash to buy a 
professional programmer. I already have a MSP-FET and a homebrew BSL 
but i don't think I can use these to burn fuses.

Thank you.