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Ray, I need that link to a command syntax
for proton! thanks Lloyd
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Ray, I need that link to a command syntax
for proton! thanks Lloyd
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Ray Instal the demo, then from the editor open the help file. If that is not what you want to do I can send you the help file direct. Tim --- In , rruss45826@a... wrote: > Tim, > I downloaded the Proton+ demo. Is there a document some where that lists the > proper syntax for all it's commands? > > Ray Russell > NMRA-40609 > General Contractor > Norfolk & Western Railroad > Pocahontas Division > Circa 1958 > Visit The "NEW" Pocahontas Website at: > Click here: N & W Pocahontas Division > OR > Click here: Pocahontas Home > for the old website! > http://milliron.home.sprynet.com/Pocahontas/Pocahontas1.htm |
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Tim,
I downloaded the Proton+ demo. Is there a document some where that lists
the proper syntax for all it's commands?
Ray
Russell
NMRA-40609 General Contractor Norfolk & Western Railroad Pocahontas Division Circa 1958 Visit The "NEW" Pocahontas Website at: Click here: N & W Pocahontas Division OR Click here: Pocahontas Home for the old website! http://milliron.home.sprynet.com/Pocahontas/Pocahontas1.htm |
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As another reader has pointed out most picbasics are very capable and I will never deny that. In fact 90% of users will be happy with what ever product they purchase. I (some times) make an income from programming Pics so live in an aloof world where things like being able to implement new commands in a macro lanuage are important to me. But for a lot of people a good tutorial covering stuff like what a variable is would be just as important. I will remember that before posting in future. > This thread is even helping me see the market from the users point > of view. > > Tim, don't hide you views or your findings. Sergio You will not here me pass any critasism on your compiler. From what I have seen of it your doing fine job. All the best Tim |
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I must agree. From everything that has been said, not only do I now believe all of the BASIC compilers are deficient at best, but I am pretty sure that I don't want to spend upwads of $250 for ANY of them. I think I will just go with the BX24. And before a flame war starts, I know how much they cost, but I also know that they are damn easy to work with. And since a hobby should be a source of peace, not a source of aggravation, I think I will avoid all of the aggravation that apparently every Basic compiler for the PICs causes. Again, I appreciate all I have learned from asking my original question. Scott > Maybe you have to look at it from my point of view! I am so new 3/4's of what > you just went back and forth on meant nothing to me! To me at this point a > Lay Person as far as PICS go it would seem that the software that is used to > program PICS is as buggy or worse then Gates stuff. Since I do not really > understand what is going on it seems to me that when I pick one of these products I > am going to alienate a large portion of this group who might otherwise help > me. Kinda leves you wondering if you (I) should bother. Remember for me it is a > hobby not a source of income! > > Ray Russell > NMRA-40609 > General Contractor > Norfolk & Western Railroad > Pocahontas Division > Circa 1958 > Visit The "NEW" Pocahontas Website at: > Click here: N & W Pocahontas Division > OR > Click here: Pocahontas Home > for the old website! > http://milliron.home.sprynet.com/Pocahontas/Pocahontas1.htm |
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In a message dated 9/8/2003 12:48:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
s...@xcprod.com writes:
War? Have I missed somthing? All I see is a passionate exchange. Maybe you have to look at it from my point of view! I am so new 3/4's
of what you just went back and forth on meant nothing to me! To me at this point
a Lay Person as far as PICS go it would seem that the software that is used to
program PICS is as buggy or worse then Gates stuff. Since I do not really
understand what is going on it seems to me that when I pick one of these
products I am going to alienate a large portion of this group who might
otherwise help me. Kinda leves you wondering if you (I) should bother. Remember
for me it is a hobby not a source of income! Ray
Russell
NMRA-40609 General Contractor Norfolk & Western Railroad Pocahontas Division Circa 1958 Visit The "NEW" Pocahontas Website at: Click here: N & W Pocahontas Division OR Click here: Pocahontas Home for the old website! http://milliron.home.sprynet.com/Pocahontas/Pocahontas1.htm |
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--- In , rruss45826@a... wrote: > > In a message dated 9/8/2003 9:15:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > > tim@t... writes: > > As for my connection with the company. My connection is only that I > > am an unpaid Beta tester. I was an avid user of PBpro and > > contributed a lot the list they use. Look for "instant interrupts" > WOW! > 1 new guy asks for help and advice on a getting started with PICS and I start > a war! > Come on Guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Ray Russell War? Have I missed somthing? All I see is a passionate exchange. The way I see it, this kind of exchange helps newbies (and even stale programmers) to see what the failings of a product are and what alternatives exist. I do not see it as a bad thing if a discussion that highlights the short commmings of a product forces that product to evolve. When I discovered it, I couldn't belive how bad the floating point support was in PBPro was. How many newbies will buy PBPro thinking "ok I don't have a need for FP now, but I will in the future and PBPro supports it" without realising just how difficult it really is to use compared to an alternative language. This thread is even helping me see the market from the users point of view. Tim, don't hide you views or your findings. Regards Sergio Masci http://www.xcprod.com/titan/XCSB - optimising structured PIC BASIC compiler |
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Ray Not quite sure if I should answer this as I might perpetuat it. I have learnt my lesson. I get very passionate about P+ and some times I Go OT. It's difficult to keep quite some times. Tim --- In , rruss45826@a... wrote: > In a message dated 9/8/2003 9:15:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > tim@t... writes: > As for my connection with the company. My connection is only that I > am an unpaid Beta tester. I was an avid user of PBpro and > contributed a lot the list they use. Look for "instant interrupts" > WOW! > 1 new guy asks for help and advice on a getting started with PICS and I start > a war! > Come on Guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Ray Russell > NMRA-40609 > General Contractor > Norfolk & Western Railroad > Pocahontas Division > Circa 1958 > Visit The "NEW" Pocahontas Website at: > Click here: N & W Pocahontas Division > OR > Click here: Pocahontas Home > for the old website! > http://milliron.home.sprynet.com/Pocahontas/Pocahontas1.htm |
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In a message dated 9/8/2003 9:15:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
t...@tjbsystems.com writes:
As for my connection with the company. My connection is only that I WOW!
1 new guy asks for help and advice on a getting started with PICS and I
start a war!
Come on Guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ray
Russell
NMRA-40609 General Contractor Norfolk & Western Railroad Pocahontas Division Circa 1958 Visit The "NEW" Pocahontas Website at: Click here: N & W Pocahontas Division OR Click here: Pocahontas Home for the old website! http://milliron.home.sprynet.com/Pocahontas/Pocahontas1.htm |
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Martin I will make enquiries about the problems you are having with loading the Demo. I have not heard of others having that problem but will look into it. As for my connection with the company. My connection is only that I am an unpaid Beta tester. I was an avid user of PBpro and contributed a lot the list they use. Look for "instant interrupts" and my timer routines. I left that list because I became to biased to P+ when I started using it and started point out the deficenacys of Pbpro. I must point out that I do not have a web page my self and all links are to other sites. As for the slating well it's not really what I want to do, but how do you compare products with out one side being shown in a lesser light. On the link I posted to the forum where I compared the strength of the variable allocation in P+ to Pbpro is one of only 3 or 4 I know of out of 5000 od post's that have a dig at another player in the field. So not sure where you got the idea that "On the site the slating is even worse than on this site" I must point out that my comments are no way assosiated with Crownhill. Unlike me they are very restrained. I do though understand that this forum should not be about that kind of comparison making and promise not to make comparisons in the same manor. Tim --- In , "martin de lange" <de_lange@x> wrote: > Hi Tim > > I am still having no luck with installing either of the demos on XP home. > The installer runs and then nothing - not even an error message. Using the admin logon with all rights. Have not had any problems with installing other software. Rebooted and checked everything I could. Switched anti virus off but still nothing. > > One more thing as you seem to be somehow connected with the company. I had a look at the website as well and the product - is it all about slating other similar products as this is certainly the message myself and I am sure many others are getting. On the site the slating is even worse than on this site. I have been commercially programming pics for ages but have found a need to do protos quicker and Proton seems my way out. It looks like a good product. I am just concerned about what I have seen. > > Any ideas? > > regards > Martin > |