On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 4:56:12 PM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:
> On 2020-05-14 16:18, Anssi Saari wrote:
> > Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> writes:
> >
> >> AFAIK no distro ships any VI other than VIM.
> >
> > Distro of what? Debian Linux includes at least elvis-tiny and nvi.
> >
> > Personally I prefer Emacs.
> >
>
> I misspoke mildly. Ed was wanting vanilla VI, which AFAICT nobody ships
> anymore.
>
> Cheers
>
> Phil Hobbs
>
yes, and I miss it. VIM is a reasonable substitute.
EMACS to me seemed like learning the piano. so many keystrokes!.
Ed
Reply by Phil Hobbs●May 14, 20202020-05-14
On 2020-05-14 16:18, Anssi Saari wrote:
> Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> writes:
>
>> AFAIK no distro ships any VI other than VIM.
>
> Distro of what? Debian Linux includes at least elvis-tiny and nvi.
>
> Personally I prefer Emacs.
>
I misspoke mildly. Ed was wanting vanilla VI, which AFAICT nobody ships
anymore.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
http://electrooptical.nethttp://hobbs-eo.com
Reply by Anssi Saari●May 14, 20202020-05-14
Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> writes:
> AFAIK no distro ships any VI other than VIM.
Distro of what? Debian Linux includes at least elvis-tiny and nvi.
Personally I prefer Emacs.
Reply by Tauno Voipio●May 14, 20202020-05-14
On 14.5.20 18:19, Tom Gardner wrote:
> On 15/04/20 02:26, Phil Hobbs wrote:
>> On 2020-04-14 14:18, Rick C wrote:
>>> https://xkcd.com/378/
>>>
>>
>> XEDIT. Followed by xx by Blair Thompson, https://www.tangbu.com.
>>
>> Of course in my day we used to defrag hard disks by editing the inodes
>> by hand, with magnets. ;)
>
> I never did that with hard disks, but as a 6th former I
> /did/ do the equivalent with paper tape using one of these:
> https://www.cryptomuseum.com/telex/repair/
>
> But I only had 5 channel paper tape. I thought I'd left
> the abomination of letter-shift figure-shift back in the
> bad old days.
>
> Then android/iphone touch screens resurrected the concept :(
The repair kit is too complicated: We used plain sticky tags
to connect the tape ends and punched the missing holes with
the hand punch like that in the repair kit.
--
-TV
Reply by Phil Hobbs●May 14, 20202020-05-14
On 2020-05-14 10:54, Ed Prochak wrote:
> On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 1:14:06 PM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:
>> On 2020-04-24 23:25, Les Cargill wrote:
>>> Phil Hobbs wrote:
>>>> On 2020-04-14 14:18, Rick C wrote:
>>>>> https://xkcd.com/378/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> XEDIT. Followed by xx by Blair Thompson, https://www.tangbu.com.
>>>>
>>>> Of course in my day we used to defrag hard disks by editing the inodes
>>>> by hand, with magnets. ;)
>>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> > XEDIT.
>>>
>>> May its name be cursed :)
>>>
>>
>> My 28-year-old son is a confirmed VIM bigot. Editor loyalties clearly
>> aren't hereditary. ;)
> Not VIM, real VI. VIM is merely a reasonable substitute on Windows platforms.
>
> Enjoy,
> ed
>
AFAIK no distro ships any VI other than VIM.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
http://electrooptical.nethttp://hobbs-eo.com
Reply by Tom Gardner●May 14, 20202020-05-14
On 15/04/20 02:26, Phil Hobbs wrote:
> On 2020-04-14 14:18, Rick C wrote:
>> https://xkcd.com/378/
>>
>
> XEDIT. Followed by xx by Blair Thompson, https://www.tangbu.com.
>
> Of course in my day we used to defrag hard disks by editing the inodes by hand,
> with magnets. ;)
I never did that with hard disks, but as a 6th former I
/did/ do the equivalent with paper tape using one of these:
https://www.cryptomuseum.com/telex/repair/
But I only had 5 channel paper tape. I thought I'd left
the abomination of letter-shift figure-shift back in the
bad old days.
Then android/iphone touch screens resurrected the concept :(
Reply by Ed Prochak●May 14, 20202020-05-14
On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 1:14:06 PM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:
> On 2020-04-24 23:25, Les Cargill wrote:
> > Phil Hobbs wrote:
> >> On 2020-04-14 14:18, Rick C wrote:
> >>> https://xkcd.com/378/
> >>>
> >>
> >> XEDIT. Followed by xx by Blair Thompson, https://www.tangbu.com.
> >>
> >> Of course in my day we used to defrag hard disks by editing the inodes
> >> by hand, with magnets. ;)
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> Phil Hobbs
> >>
> > >
> >
> > > XEDIT.
> >
> > May its name be cursed :)
> >
>
> My 28-year-old son is a confirmed VIM bigot. Editor loyalties clearly
> aren't hereditary. ;)
>
> Cheers
>
> Phil Hobbs
Not VIM, real VI. VIM is merely a reasonable substitute on Windows platforms.
Enjoy,
ed
Reply by Les Cargill●April 28, 20202020-04-28
Phil Hobbs wrote:
> On 2020-04-24 23:25, Les Cargill wrote:
>> Phil Hobbs wrote:
>>> On 2020-04-14 14:18, Rick C wrote:
>>>> https://xkcd.com/378/
>>>>
>>>
>>> XEDIT. Followed by xx by Blair Thompson, https://www.tangbu.com.
>>>
>>> Of course in my day we used to defrag hard disks by editing the
>>> inodes by hand, with magnets. ;)
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Phil Hobbs
>>>
>> >
>>
>> > XEDIT.
>>
>> May its name be cursed :)
>>
>
> My 28-year-old son is a confirmed VIM bigot. Editor loyalties clearly
> aren't hereditary. ;)
>
> Cheers
>
> Phil Hobbs
Reason almost doesn't factor into choice of editors anyway. :) For
its day, XEDIT was pretty great.
--
Les Cargill
Reply by Phil Hobbs●April 26, 20202020-04-26
On 2020-04-24 23:25, Les Cargill wrote:
> Phil Hobbs wrote:
>> On 2020-04-14 14:18, Rick C wrote:
>>> https://xkcd.com/378/
>>>
>>
>> XEDIT. Followed by xx by Blair Thompson, https://www.tangbu.com.
>>
>> Of course in my day we used to defrag hard disks by editing the inodes
>> by hand, with magnets. ;)
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Phil Hobbs
>>
> >
>
> > XEDIT.
>
> May its name be cursed :)
>
My 28-year-old son is a confirmed VIM bigot. Editor loyalties clearly
aren't hereditary. ;)
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
Reply by Les Cargill●April 25, 20202020-04-25
Phil Hobbs wrote:
> On 2020-04-14 14:18, Rick C wrote:
>> https://xkcd.com/378/
>>
>
> XEDIT. Followed by xx by Blair Thompson, https://www.tangbu.com.
>
> Of course in my day we used to defrag hard disks by editing the inodes
> by hand, with magnets. ;)
>
> Cheers
>
> Phil Hobbs
>
>
> XEDIT.
May its name be cursed :)
--
Les Cargill