Reply by MSC September 24, 20052005-09-24
On 23 Sep 2005 18:13:59 -0700, ironfly@shaw.ca wrote:

>Microchip controllers are very cheap, and the tools needed to start >developing applications are the cheapest existing today! >All you need is the ICD2 Programer/Debuger tool, about 200 USD, and a >good tutorial book.
If you after low budget stuff and can't build yourself a PIC programmer for 1/10th of that amount then you really shouldnt be looking at embedded systems for a hobby or profession. Mike
Reply by September 24, 20052005-09-24
ironfly@shaw.ca =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0:
> Microchip controllers are very cheap, and the tools needed to start > developing applications are the cheapest existing today! > All you need is the ICD2 Programer/Debuger tool, about 200 USD, and a > good tutorial book. The ICD2 is a tool which you can use for a very > large range of Flash processors (possibly over 200), and the tutorial > book explains how to write firmware for any microcontroller of the > Microchip family. Even more; the tutorial book I am referring to comes > with a Hardware Companion Kit which helps you write and test all your > future firmware programs! > Check this site: > http://www.corollarytheorems.com/ > Do not worry: you will learn this new exciting technology, the easy way!
You may be surprised but Microchip tools are not the cheapest existing today! I even think they sell the most expensive development tools for 8-bit microcontrollers I've seen. Of course there are ICD2 alternatives (like ours) for as low as $90, but this is much more expensive than the $15 JTAG for MSP430 and MAXQ devices which offer much more speed and functionality than the ICD2 offers for the PICs. And of course both TI and Maxim-Dallas offer free of charge IDE with assembler and debugger which is several levels above the buggy MPLAB. Just my 2 cents. Best regards Tsvetan Usunov Olimex Ltd --- PCB prototypes for $26 at http://run.to/pcb (http://www.olimex.com/pcb) PCB any volume assembly (http://www.olimex.com/pcb/protoa.html) Development boards for ARM, AVR, PIC, MAXQ2000 and MSP430 http://www.olimex.com/dev)
Reply by September 23, 20052005-09-23
Microchip controllers are very cheap, and the tools needed to start
developing applications are the cheapest existing today!
All you need is the ICD2 Programer/Debuger tool, about 200 USD, and a
good tutorial book. The ICD2 is a tool which you can use for a very
large range of Flash processors (possibly over 200), and the tutorial
book explains how to write firmware for any microcontroller of the
Microchip family. Even more; the tutorial book I am referring to comes
with a Hardware Companion Kit which helps you write and test all your
future firmware programs!
Check this site:
http://www.corollarytheorems.com/
Do not worry: you will learn this new exciting technology, the easy way!