> news:1131624591.758174.93370@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> 
>>I'm looking for a converter that will allow me to hook up a compact PCI
>>expansion chassis to a PCI based machine. (basically a CPCI board, a
>>PCI board, and a cable to go between the two.)
>>
>>I figure it may be that simple since CPCI is electrically identical to
>>PCI, just on a different form factor, right?
>>
>>Anybody know of somebody who makes such a thing?
>>
>>Also, how would hot-swap capable boards be affected by this? I seem to
>>recall from reading that whenever a hot-swap capable card is inserted,
>>the #ENUM line gets hit and the bus gets enumerated. Would this cause a
>>PCI device to be detected at this point by a windows box (2K for
>>instance), or would hot swap not work right in this situation?
>>
>>I already tried a Ziatech adapter card designed to allow a 3U CPCI
>>board to plug into a PCI slot, this didn't work for me. I was using it
>>with a 6U card, and it would power up partway but wouldn't come up
>>fully. (I sort of wonder why, since I thought the secondary connector
>>that 6U boards use was just for transition (ie back card) signal use.
>>
>>Anybody have any ideas?
>>


On a 3U cPCI board, both P1 & P2 are sharing the PCI bus. (upper part of 
64bit bus is on P2, plus a slot address (GA), and there is also a 
'system slot' identifier pin that may be looked at by combined 
master/slave cpu:s, to determine if they should power up or wait for an 
external master giving the go-ahead, as part of the hot-swapping logic.

(You may need to look at your individual board spec to find out what's 
needed, but the bus specs are at picmg.org)

On a 6U cPCI board, the P3 is for the rear transition panel, but I've 
not seen any rear I/O used with standard 3U boards. Custom I/O could be 
differently made I expect.

One thing I've seen when using a cPCI board in a PC, is that some PC 
power supplies isn't really suitable to cPCI; modern cPCI relies mainly 
on +3.3V supply, while modern ATX PSU:S are mainly supplying +12V power.
Also the +3.3V regulation is often dependent on +5V load, so one may 
have to introduce a dummy load to get within tolerable +3.3V levels.
The +3.3V requirement is also marginal in some cases due to differences 
in precision, ATX is +/-5% on +3.3V, while cPCI wants +5% -3% accuracy, 
and if the cPCI bord is marginally designed, it can be a problem.

If you have older 33MHz 32 bit cPCI board, it's +5V VI/O on the pci bus, 
not +3.3V as the newer 66MHz 64bit boards; this too must be considered, 
as not all adapters can be configured to work with either voltage; i.e. 
you can burn off some copper traces if mismatched.

/Rolf

I think Catalyst have all that kind of thing...

http://www.getcatalyst.com/adapters.jsp

"reenigne" <k8jlf@aol.com> wrote in message 
news:1131624591.758174.93370@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> I'm looking for a converter that will allow me to hook up a compact PCI
> expansion chassis to a PCI based machine. (basically a CPCI board, a
> PCI board, and a cable to go between the two.)
>
> I figure it may be that simple since CPCI is electrically identical to
> PCI, just on a different form factor, right?
>
> Anybody know of somebody who makes such a thing?
>
> Also, how would hot-swap capable boards be affected by this? I seem to
> recall from reading that whenever a hot-swap capable card is inserted,
> the #ENUM line gets hit and the bus gets enumerated. Would this cause a
> PCI device to be detected at this point by a windows box (2K for
> instance), or would hot swap not work right in this situation?
>
> I already tried a Ziatech adapter card designed to allow a 3U CPCI
> board to plug into a PCI slot, this didn't work for me. I was using it
> with a 6U card, and it would power up partway but wouldn't come up
> fully. (I sort of wonder why, since I thought the secondary connector
> that 6U boards use was just for transition (ie back card) signal use.
>
> Anybody have any ideas?
> 

"reenigne" <k8jlf@aol.com> wrote in message 
news:1131624591.758174.93370@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> I'm looking for a converter that will allow me to hook up a compact PCI
> expansion chassis to a PCI based machine. (basically a CPCI board, a
> PCI board, and a cable to go between the two.)
>
> I figure it may be that simple since CPCI is electrically identical to
> PCI, just on a different form factor, right?
>
> Anybody know of somebody who makes such a thing?
>
> Also, how would hot-swap capable boards be affected by this? I seem to
> recall from reading that whenever a hot-swap capable card is inserted,
> the #ENUM line gets hit and the bus gets enumerated. Would this cause a
> PCI device to be detected at this point by a windows box (2K for
> instance), or would hot swap not work right in this situation?
>
> I already tried a Ziatech adapter card designed to allow a 3U CPCI
> board to plug into a PCI slot, this didn't work for me. I was using it
> with a 6U card, and it would power up partway but wouldn't come up
> fully. (I sort of wonder why, since I thought the secondary connector
> that 6U boards use was just for transition (ie back card) signal use.
>
> Anybody have any ideas?
>

Check out the following link.

http://www.stargen.com/starfabric/partner_products.shtml 

I'm looking for a converter that will allow me to hook up a compact PCI
expansion chassis to a PCI based machine. (basically a CPCI board, a
PCI board, and a cable to go between the two.)

I figure it may be that simple since CPCI is electrically identical to
PCI, just on a different form factor, right?

Anybody know of somebody who makes such a thing?

Also, how would hot-swap capable boards be affected by this? I seem to
recall from reading that whenever a hot-swap capable card is inserted,
the #ENUM line gets hit and the bus gets enumerated. Would this cause a
PCI device to be detected at this point by a windows box (2K for
instance), or would hot swap not work right in this situation?

I already tried a Ziatech adapter card designed to allow a 3U CPCI
board to plug into a PCI slot, this didn't work for me. I was using it
with a 6U card, and it would power up partway but wouldn't come up
fully. (I sort of wonder why, since I thought the secondary connector
that 6U boards use was just for transition (ie back card) signal use.

Anybody have any ideas?