Reply by Edu Caxinux October 23, 20082008-10-23
so, tell me one thing, what is the hardware that you were working on? any kit development or eZ430-2500...
and the protocol? zigbee? simpliciTi? TIMac? Or any EN?

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De: nicolaielpo
Para: m...
Enviadas: Sexta-feira, 10 de Outubro de 2008 23:36:44
Assunto: [msp430] Re: help with SW uart
--- In msp430@yahoogroups. com, "Dan Muzzey" wrote:
>
> Nothing is ever easy. At least nothing worth doing is. It is
never my
> intent to steer someone away from their dream. However, I do
believe
> that some people have been given talents or maybe were not given
> strengths in certain areas. I've met some people that simply cannot
> grasp programming. Their brains are wired a different way.
However,
> these same people can do extraordinary things with a pen and a
paper.
> They can write wonderful prose that the reader cannot put down.
I've
> met others that couldn't write their wife a note to say they will be
> late coming home for supper but can derive new methods for solving
> problems in the middle of a test. Simpler, more accurate methods
than
> the professor himself thought of.
>
> Your statement about the beat...some people cannot hear the beat yet
> they can dance. It would be extraordinary rare for such a person to
> choose a life in dance and furthmore to excel at it. In a world of
> infinite possibilities anything is possible.
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
>
> From: msp430@yahoogroups. com [mailto:msp430@yahoogroups.. com] On
Behalf
> Of Matthias Weingart
> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 1:29 AM
> To: msp430@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: [msp430] RE: Re: help with SW uart
>
> "Dan Muzzey" > >:
>
> > If you cannot grasp code then move on. You will
> > never be happy writing code if you have to struggle through every
> line.
>
> It is a goodness to fight - to understand, to learn - even if it is
not
> your
> talent. Jumping and switching between jobs - and to realize nothing
of
> these
> jobs is my "talent" - is never a good idea. Most people are
talented in
> various fields.. Sometimes you just need patience - and in ideal
case - a
> good
> teacher - to discover them.
> Well of course - in rare cases - somebody is untalented in a special
> field.
> But for my experience this is very rare (e.g. about 1% of people
can not
> hear
> the beat of music - however they are able to dance).
>
> Matthias
>
>
>
>
>
Dan i have just finished my software and it works very good!! i thing
that you will become a dancer!! :-) bye bye


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Reply by Dan Muzzey October 13, 20082008-10-13
Congratulations. There is a definite sense of accomplishment when
finishing something that you didn't know if you could do. Doesn't look
like you actually needed much help. Just a little time working on the
problem and you solved it on your own.

However, I do blame my poor dancing abilities on my wife. :-) She just
refuses to be led.

________________________________

From: m... [mailto:m...] On Behalf
Of nicolaielpo
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 5:37 PM
To: m...
Subject: [msp430] Re: help with SW uart

--- In m... , "Dan
Muzzey" wrote:
>
> Nothing is ever easy. At least nothing worth doing is. It is
never my
> intent to steer someone away from their dream. However, I do
believe
> that some people have been given talents or maybe were not given
> strengths in certain areas. I've met some people that simply cannot
> grasp programming. Their brains are wired a different way.
However,
> these same people can do extraordinary things with a pen and a
paper.
> They can write wonderful prose that the reader cannot put down.
I've
> met others that couldn't write their wife a note to say they will be
> late coming home for supper but can derive new methods for solving
> problems in the middle of a test. Simpler, more accurate methods
than
> the professor himself thought of.
>
> Your statement about the beat...some people cannot hear the beat yet
> they can dance. It would be extraordinary rare for such a person to
> choose a life in dance and furthmore to excel at it. In a world of
> infinite possibilities anything is possible.
> ________________________________
>
> From: m...
[mailto:m... ] On
Behalf
> Of Matthias Weingart
> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 1:29 AM
> To: m...
> Subject: [msp430] RE: Re: help with SW uart
>
> "Dan Muzzey" > >:
>
> > If you cannot grasp code then move on. You will
> > never be happy writing code if you have to struggle through every
> line.
>
> It is a goodness to fight - to understand, to learn - even if it is
not
> your
> talent. Jumping and switching between jobs - and to realize nothing
of
> these
> jobs is my "talent" - is never a good idea. Most people are
talented in
> various fields. Sometimes you just need patience - and in ideal
case - a
> good
> teacher - to discover them.
> Well of course - in rare cases - somebody is untalented in a special
> field.
> But for my experience this is very rare (e.g. about 1% of people
can not
> hear
> the beat of music - however they are able to dance).
>
> Matthias
>
>
>
Dan i have just finished my software and it works very good!! i thing
that you will become a dancer!! :-) bye bye


Reply by nicolaielpo October 10, 20082008-10-10
--- In m..., "Dan Muzzey" wrote:
>
> Nothing is ever easy. At least nothing worth doing is. It is
never my
> intent to steer someone away from their dream. However, I do
believe
> that some people have been given talents or maybe were not given
> strengths in certain areas. I've met some people that simply cannot
> grasp programming. Their brains are wired a different way.
However,
> these same people can do extraordinary things with a pen and a
paper.
> They can write wonderful prose that the reader cannot put down.
I've
> met others that couldn't write their wife a note to say they will be
> late coming home for supper but can derive new methods for solving
> problems in the middle of a test. Simpler, more accurate methods
than
> the professor himself thought of.
>
> Your statement about the beat...some people cannot hear the beat yet
> they can dance. It would be extraordinary rare for such a person to
> choose a life in dance and furthmore to excel at it. In a world of
> infinite possibilities anything is possible.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: m... [mailto:m...] On
Behalf
> Of Matthias Weingart
> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 1:29 AM
> To: m...
> Subject: [msp430] RE: Re: help with SW uart
>
> "Dan Muzzey" > >:
>
> > If you cannot grasp code then move on. You will
> > never be happy writing code if you have to struggle through every
> line.
>
> It is a goodness to fight - to understand, to learn - even if it is
not
> your
> talent. Jumping and switching between jobs - and to realize nothing
of
> these
> jobs is my "talent" - is never a good idea. Most people are
talented in
> various fields. Sometimes you just need patience - and in ideal
case - a
> good
> teacher - to discover them.
> Well of course - in rare cases - somebody is untalented in a special
> field.
> But for my experience this is very rare (e.g. about 1% of people
can not
> hear
> the beat of music - however they are able to dance).
>
> Matthias
>
>
>
Dan i have just finished my software and it works very good!! i thing
that you will become a dancer!! :-) bye bye
Reply by Tom Baugh October 10, 20082008-10-10
Nicolai,

Don't get discouraged, we all started somewhere ;-)

We have written an introductory book for learning how to write MSP430
applications, and making the most of the ultra-low-power features.
One of the chapters of that book talks about writing a software UART
using the timer resources, and it is presented in much more detail
than the TI toy samples.

This book is titled MSP430 State Machine Programming with the ES2274,
and is available on amazon.com:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&location=http%3A%2F%
2Fwww.amazon.com%2FMSP430-State-Machine-Programming-ES2274%2Fdp%
2F0975475924%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks%26qid%3D1214397954%26sr%3D8-
1&tag=softcom-20&linkCode=ur2&camp89&creative25

If that link doesn't work, then search amazon for MSP430 as one word
and choose our green and white title.

This book is written for our ES2274, but the principles in it are
applicable to any MSP430 design. It is also written for C with the
IAR Kickstart.

The book is formatted as a series of fifteen tutorial sessions, with
solved exercises at the end of each chapter. Consider it a semester
course in the MSP430!

The tutorials in our book are best done with our ES2274 board:

http://www.softbaugh.com/ProductPage.cfm?strPartNo=ES2274

When you are done working through the tutorials, and the solved
exercises at the end of each chapter, you will be well on your way to
understanding more about the problem you are having now.

We also have an RF book that discusses using our CC1100 stack in
detail:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&location=http%3A%2F%
2Fwww.amazon.com%2FMSP430-RF-Applications-MRF1611CC1100-Reference%
2Fdp%2F0975475908%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks%26qid%3D1214398172%26sr%3D8-
4&tag=softcom-20&linkCode=ur2&camp89&creative25

That book is a blue and white title on amazon if you search for
MSP430 as one word, and is written for our MRF1611CC1100 series of
boards.

Our digital radio interface is written for the F1611, but if your
project has the $3000 budget for the source you could port it to any
MSP430.

Tom

Reply by Dan Muzzey October 10, 20082008-10-10
Nothing is ever easy. At least nothing worth doing is. It is never my
intent to steer someone away from their dream. However, I do believe
that some people have been given talents or maybe were not given
strengths in certain areas. I've met some people that simply cannot
grasp programming. Their brains are wired a different way. However,
these same people can do extraordinary things with a pen and a paper.
They can write wonderful prose that the reader cannot put down. I've
met others that couldn't write their wife a note to say they will be
late coming home for supper but can derive new methods for solving
problems in the middle of a test. Simpler, more accurate methods than
the professor himself thought of.

Your statement about the beat...some people cannot hear the beat yet
they can dance. It would be extraordinary rare for such a person to
choose a life in dance and furthmore to excel at it. In a world of
infinite possibilities anything is possible.

________________________________

From: m... [mailto:m...] On Behalf
Of Matthias Weingart
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 1:29 AM
To: m...
Subject: [msp430] RE: Re: help with SW uart

"Dan Muzzey" >:

> If you cannot grasp code then move on. You will
> never be happy writing code if you have to struggle through every
line.

It is a goodness to fight - to understand, to learn - even if it is not
your
talent. Jumping and switching between jobs - and to realize nothing of
these
jobs is my "talent" - is never a good idea. Most people are talented in
various fields. Sometimes you just need patience - and in ideal case - a
good
teacher - to discover them.
Well of course - in rare cases - somebody is untalented in a special
field.
But for my experience this is very rare (e.g. about 1% of people can not
hear
the beat of music - however they are able to dance).

Matthias


Reply by Dan Muzzey October 10, 20082008-10-10
Okay, so let me rephrase what you just posted.

We (meaning the mailing list) are all stuck up with to much time on our
hands. I (meaning you) don't have time to do it myself so I will get
someone else to do it for free. But since you (meaning the mailing
list) won't give me what I (person asking for help) need, but instead
tell me to actually do work on my own, then I don't want your dirty
help. I'll just do it myself.

Hmmm....I needed a good laugh this morning.

________________________________

From: m... [mailto:m...] On Behalf
Of nicolaielpo
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 3:36 AM
To: m...
Subject: [msp430] Re: help with SW uart

--- In m... ,
"nicolaielpo" wrote:
You are all adjudicator, big professor, clever!!good!!i haven't got
many time to realize this software consequently i ask for your help.
But if you are so chestfuls, i don't want your dirty help.
simply i will spend more time to study the problem!!


Reply by leon Heller October 10, 20082008-10-10
----- Original Message -----
From: "nicolaielpo"
To:
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 9:35 AM
Subject: [msp430] Re: help with SW uart
> --- In m..., "nicolaielpo" wrote:
> You are all adjudicator, big professor, clever!!good!!i haven't got
> many time to realize this software consequently i ask for your help.
> But if you are so chestfuls, i don't want your dirty help.
> simply i will spend more time to study the problem!!

It only took me five minutes to edit the code I sent you. I can't find any
hardware with an HF crystal to test it on, though.

Leon
Reply by nicolaielpo October 10, 20082008-10-10
--- In m..., "nicolaielpo" wrote:
You are all adjudicator, big professor, clever!!good!!i haven't got
many time to realize this software consequently i ask for your help.
But if you are so chestfuls, i don't want your dirty help.
simply i will spend more time to study the problem!!

Reply by Matthias Weingart October 10, 20082008-10-10
"Dan Muzzey" :

> If you cannot grasp code then move on. You will
> never be happy writing code if you have to struggle through every line.

It is a goodness to fight - to understand, to learn - even if it is not your
talent. Jumping and switching between jobs - and to realize nothing of these
jobs is my "talent" - is never a good idea. Most people are talented in
various fields. Sometimes you just need patience - and in ideal case - a good
teacher - to discover them.
Well of course - in rare cases - somebody is untalented in a special field.
But for my experience this is very rare (e.g. about 1% of people can not hear
the beat of music - however they are able to dance).

Matthias

Reply by Dan Muzzey October 9, 20082008-10-09
Firmware is not something everyone can create. Some people understand
the fundamental concepts while others cannot grasp them. This is not
something that can be taught now is it something to be ashamed of. It
simply is. Some people cannot grasp art or drawing. They simply do not
have the knack. I'm one of those people. It comes down to doing what
you have a gifted at. If you cannot grasp code then move on. You will
never be happy writing code if you have to struggle through every line.
I'm sure there are other things that you are much more suited for.
Mechanical design, art, literature, management, the list is endless.
________________________________

From: m... [mailto:m...] On Behalf
Of leon Heller
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 1:35 PM
To: m...
Subject: Re: [msp430] Re: help with SW uart

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Curtis" >
To: >
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 5:38 PM
Subject: RE: [msp430] Re: help with SW uart

> Hi,
>
>> I can't do it.otherwise i don't ask for help...
>
> Tip: tutors get paid to teach, nobody on this list gets paid to help.
Why
> not ask for help from your tutor? Isn't that what they are there for?
>
> If you don't understand then either you didn't pay attention, your
tutor
> didn't explain well, or you don't have the ability. Your post suggests

> the
> latter.

I actually posted some TI code on a forum where he asked the same
question,
but he doesn't seem to know how to modify it for his own use.

Leon