On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:46:02 +0000, Guy Macon
<http://www.guymacon.com/> wrote:

>
>
>
>Anton Erasmus wrote:
>
>>If you want something like Visio, rather use SmartDraw.
>>http://www.smartdraw.com
>>It can do everything that visio can do (Even load/save visio format),
>>and is a hell of a lot cheaper than Visio. The full version with all
>>libraries goes for US$99.
>
>Can it be set up to snap symbols and lines to a grid? 

Yes,
 And the grid is not slightly different every time one reloads the
document after the app had been exited and restarted -- the way 
it happens in Visio. You can download a fully functional demo to
evaluate before you buy. 

Regards
  Anton Erasmus

Anton Erasmus wrote:

>If you want something like Visio, rather use SmartDraw.
>http://www.smartdraw.com
>It can do everything that visio can do (Even load/save visio format),
>and is a hell of a lot cheaper than Visio. The full version with all
>libraries goes for US$99.

Can it be set up to snap symbols and lines to a grid? 

-- 
Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com/> 

On 2 Dec 2005 01:26:32 -0800, "Telenochek" <interpasha@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>I think Microsoft Visio is pretty good.
>I had a bit of trouble with it when starting, but now that I have my
>"Favorites" shapes all organized, its a breeze.
>
>I don't know how good Visio is for large and complicated flowcharts,
>but for simple flowcharts its really good and fast. I stopped using
>paper and pensil, because an error causes you to redraw the flowchart
>which wastes time.
>
>In addition it has the usual Microsoft look to it and can export/import
>in many standard formats.

If you want something like Visio, rather use SmartDraw.
http://www.smartdraw.com
It can do everything that visio can do (Even load/save visio format),
and is a hell of a lot cheaper than Visio. The full version with all
libraries goes for US$99.

Regards
  Anton Erasmus

Scott Kelley wrote:

> Opinions about flow charting software???

Didn't flowcharts go out in the 80's???

That was the last time I used one - for a uni assignment...

Regards,
Mark

"Scott Kelley" <scottk@iccom.com> schrieb:

>Opinions about flow charting software???

graphviz dot, can be used by doxygen.

Oliver
-- 
Oliver Betz, Muenchen (oliverbetz.de)

"Scott Kelley" <scottk@iccom.com> wrote in message 
news:l-udnSODe6dpSRLeRVn-vw@centurytel.net...
> Opinions about flow charting software???
>
> I have tried flow chart software in the past, but it wasn't very easy to 
> use.  Anything out there now that is as easy as paper & pencil?

Edge Diagrammer is alot more user friendly than Visio for flowcharting.

Scott Kelley wrote:
> Opinions about flow charting software???
> 
> I have tried flow chart software in the past, but it wasn't very easy to 
> use.  Anything out there now that is as easy as paper & pencil?
> 
> Thx
> Scott Kelley 
> 
>

Freeware:

look for DIA, available on all platforms,

or

my favourite Diagram Designer
   http://meesoft.logicnet.dk/

I used the latter one to experiment with codegeneration
(for JAL, Delphi, PICbsc) from finite state machines.
So maybe one day that'll added to Diagram Designer.

Stef Mientki

larwe wrote:
>>Opinions about flow charting software???
> 
> 
> My opinion: it sucks.

ever used flowcharting software that generates the code for you ?

Stef

On 2 Dec 2005 06:47:45 -0800 in comp.arch.embedded, "larwe"
<zwsdotcom@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>Steve at fivetrees wrote:
>
>> I switched to using pseudo-code, i.e. a generalised structured language.
>
>Flowcharts work better (for me) when illustrating complicated nested
>loops.
>
>It doesn't really matter, either one is just a logical aid in designing
>software.

FWIW, I find Nassi-Schneiderman diagrams much clearer than flowcharts
for such purposes, and they help prevent you from making most of the
mistakes flowcharts allow.  Google's first hit
(http://users.evitech.fi/~jaanah/IntroC/DBeech/3gl_nassi.htm) does a
pretty good job describing them.

Regards,

                                        -=Dave

-- 
Change is inevitable, progress is not.

Scott Kelley wrote:
> Opinions about flow charting software???
>
> I have tried flow chart software in the past, but it wasn't very easy to
> use.  Anything out there now that is as easy as paper & pencil?
>
> Thx
> Scott Kelley

I do a lot of contract maintenance and use Visio when I'm
learning new code.  I especially like that I can insert links
to other pages/files of related Visio pages and files as well
as to other reference documents.

New code?  Pseudocode.

Ken Asbury