Hello All: I apologize for the confusion here. We will post the latest version of unsecure_12 on the P&E website by the end of the day. - Mark P&E Gilles Blanquin wrote: >Hi Ernie. > >Well, at the same! Except if someone from P&E sent it directly to me (and I >don't remember). For sure, the v1.02 does not work. > >Regards, >Gilles >At 03:28 PM 10/27/2003, you wrote: >>Hi Gilles, >>The version of the PEMicro unsecure that I am using is >>V1.02. That is the latest version that I saw on >>PEMicro's website. Where did you get V1.03? >>Thanks, >>Ernie >> >>--- Original Message --- >>From: Gilles Blanquin <> >>To: >>Subject: Re: [68HC12] E128 Sector Erase >> >> >> >>>Hi Ernie. >>> >>>About unsecuring: Make sure you have "version 1.03" >>> >>> >>if "unsecure_12.exe". >> >> >>>It is displayed when you start the tool. Previous >>> >>> >>releases of the tool >> >> >>>might not work. >>> >>>Regards, >>>Gilles >>> >>> >>>At 06:55 AM 10/27/2003, you wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Has anyone been succesful in converting the >>>> >>>> >>bootloader from a 256K device to >> >> >>>>a 128K device - particularly the 9S12E128. I am in >>>> >>>> >>the process of doing >> >> >>>>this and I have been getting the Flash Erase error. >>>> >>>> >>Perhaps, this corrected >> >> >>>>info (below) on the sector size may help. >>>> >>>> >>Unfortunately, I can not try it >> >> >>>>this time - I saw this info after I accidentally >>>> >>>> >>secured the micro. I tried >> >> >>>>to unsecure it using PEMICRO unsecure_12 with no >>>> >>>> >>success. >> >> >>>>Ernie. >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "Gordon Doughman" <> >>>>To: <> >>>>Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 2:45 PM >>>>Subject: Re: [68HC12] E128 Sector Erase >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Bruce, >>>>> >>>>>The S12FTS128KV1/D >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>><http://e- >>>> >>>> >>www.motorola.com/files/microcontrollers/doc/ref_manual/ >>S12FTS128KV>>1.pdf> >> >> >>>>>document available on the E128 Product Summary >>>>> >>>>> >>page is not the correct >> >> >>>>>Flash block guide for the E128. The E128 contains >>>>> >>>>> >>a single 128K flash >> >> >>>>>block with a 1024 byte sector size. I'll notify >>>>> >>>>> >>the proper people to get >> >> >>>>>the correct Block Guide on the web. >>>>> >>>>>Regards, >>>>>Gordon >>>>> >>>>>Bruce McMillan wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Hi, >>>>>>Can anyone confirm that the sector erase size on >>>>>> >>>>>> >>the S12E128 is 512 >> >> >>>>>>bytes - the module covering the Flash says both >>>>>> >>>>>> >>512Bytes and 256Bytes. >> >> >>>>>>tks >>>>>>Bruce >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>------- >> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>======================================================= >>======== >> >> >>>>>Gordon Doughman Ph: 937-438-6811 >>>>>Motorola Semiconductor Fax: 937-434-7457 >>>>>Field Applications Engineer Pager: 800-759- >>>>> >>>>> >>8352 Pin: 1304089 >> >> >>>>>Suite 175 >>>>>3131 Newmark Drive >>>>>Miamisburg, OH 45342 >>>>> >>>>>Check out my HC12 book at: >>>>>http://www.rtcbooks.com/programming.php >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>-------------- >>>>> >>>>> >>------ >> >> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >> >> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>----------------- >>>> >>>> >>--- >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >> >> >>>------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ------- >>> >>>------------------ >>> >>> >>-- >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>>">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>-------------------- >> >> >> >>">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >> > > >-------------------- > >">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- ________________________________ Mark L. Cukier, Design Engineer P&E Microcomputer Systems 710 Commonwealth Avenue Boston, MA 02215 ______________________________ e-mail: phone : (617) 353-9206 x19 fax : (617) 353-9205 ______________________________ visit us on the web at: http://www.pemicro.com

Hi Ernie. Well, at the same! Except if someone from P&E sent it directly to me (and I don't remember). For sure, the v1.02 does not work. Regards, Gilles At 03:28 PM 10/27/2003, you wrote: >Hi Gilles, >The version of the PEMicro unsecure that I am using is >V1.02. That is the latest version that I saw on >PEMicro's website. Where did you get V1.03? >Thanks, >Ernie > >--- Original Message --- >From: Gilles Blanquin <> >To: >Subject: Re: [68HC12] E128 Sector Erase > > > > >Hi Ernie. > > > >About unsecuring: Make sure you have "version 1.03" >if "unsecure_12.exe". > >It is displayed when you start the tool. Previous >releases of the tool > >might not work. > > > >Regards, > >Gilles > > > > > >At 06:55 AM 10/27/2003, you wrote: > >>Has anyone been succesful in converting the >bootloader from a 256K device to > >>a 128K device - particularly the 9S12E128. I am in >the process of doing > >>this and I have been getting the Flash Erase error. >Perhaps, this corrected > >>info (below) on the sector size may help. >Unfortunately, I can not try it > >>this time - I saw this info after I accidentally >secured the micro. I tried > >>to unsecure it using PEMICRO unsecure_12 with no >success. > >> > >>Ernie. > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Gordon Doughman" <> > >>To: <> > >>Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 2:45 PM > >>Subject: Re: [68HC12] E128 Sector Erase > >> > >> > >> > Bruce, > >> > > >> > The S12FTS128KV1/D > >> > > >><http://e- >www.motorola.com/files/microcontrollers/doc/ref_manual/ >S12FTS128KV>>1.pdf> > >> > document available on the E128 Product Summary >page is not the correct > >> > Flash block guide for the E128. The E128 contains >a single 128K flash > >> > block with a 1024 byte sector size. I'll notify >the proper people to get > >> > the correct Block Guide on the web. > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > Gordon > >> > > >> > Bruce McMillan wrote: > >> > > >> > >Hi, > >> > >Can anyone confirm that the sector erase size on >the S12E128 is 512 > >> > >bytes - the module covering the Flash says both >512Bytes and 256Bytes. > >> > > > >> > >tks > >> > >Bruce > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >------------- >------- > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > >======================================================= >======== > >> > Gordon Doughman Ph: 937-438-6811 > >> > Motorola Semiconductor Fax: 937-434-7457 > >> > Field Applications Engineer Pager: 800-759- >8352 Pin: 1304089 > >> > Suite 175 > >> > 3131 Newmark Drive > >> > Miamisburg, OH 45342 > >> > > >> > Check out my HC12 book at: > >> > http://www.rtcbooks.com/programming.php > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -------------- >------ > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >>----------------- >--- > >> > >> > >> > >>">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > >------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ------- > > > >------------------ >-- > > > > > > > >">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > >-------------------- > >">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Hi Gilles, The version of the PEMicro unsecure that I am using is V1.02. That is the latest version that I saw on PEMicro's website. Where did you get V1.03? Thanks, Ernie --- Original Message --- From: Gilles Blanquin <> To: Subject: Re: [68HC12] E128 Sector Erase > >Hi Ernie. > >About unsecuring: Make sure you have "version 1.03" if "unsecure_12.exe". >It is displayed when you start the tool. Previous releases of the tool >might not work. > >Regards, >Gilles >At 06:55 AM 10/27/2003, you wrote: >>Has anyone been succesful in converting the bootloader from a 256K device to >>a 128K device - particularly the 9S12E128. I am in the process of doing >>this and I have been getting the Flash Erase error. Perhaps, this corrected >>info (below) on the sector size may help. Unfortunately, I can not try it >>this time - I saw this info after I accidentally secured the micro. I tried >>to unsecure it using PEMICRO unsecure_12 with no success. >> >>Ernie. >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Gordon Doughman" <> >>To: <> >>Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 2:45 PM >>Subject: Re: [68HC12] E128 Sector Erase >> >> >> > Bruce, >> > >> > The S12FTS128KV1/D >> > >><http://e- www.motorola.com/files/microcontrollers/doc/ref_manual/ S12FTS128KV >>1.pdf> >> > document available on the E128 Product Summary page is not the correct >> > Flash block guide for the E128. The E128 contains a single 128K flash >> > block with a 1024 byte sector size. I'll notify the proper people to get >> > the correct Block Guide on the web. >> > >> > Regards, >> > Gordon >> > >> > Bruce McMillan wrote: >> > >> > >Hi, >> > >Can anyone confirm that the sector erase size on the S12E128 is 512 >> > >bytes - the module covering the Flash says both 512Bytes and 256Bytes. >> > > >> > >tks >> > >Bruce >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >------------- ------- >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > -- >> > ======================================================= ======== >> > Gordon Doughman Ph: 937-438-6811 >> > Motorola Semiconductor Fax: 937-434-7457 >> > Field Applications Engineer Pager: 800-759- 8352 Pin: 1304089 >> > Suite 175 >> > 3131 Newmark Drive >> > Miamisburg, OH 45342 >> > >> > Check out my HC12 book at: >> > http://www.rtcbooks.com/programming.php >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -------------- ------ >> > >> > >> > >> > ">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >> > >> > >> >> >> >>----------------- --- >> >> >> >>">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ------- > >------------------ -- >">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

Hi Ernie. About unsecuring: Make sure you have "version 1.03" if "unsecure_12.exe". It is displayed when you start the tool. Previous releases of the tool might not work. Regards, Gilles At 06:55 AM 10/27/2003, you wrote: >Has anyone been succesful in converting the bootloader from a 256K device to >a 128K device - particularly the 9S12E128. I am in the process of doing >this and I have been getting the Flash Erase error. Perhaps, this corrected >info (below) on the sector size may help. Unfortunately, I can not try it >this time - I saw this info after I accidentally secured the micro. I tried >to unsecure it using PEMICRO unsecure_12 with no success. > >Ernie. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Gordon Doughman" <> >To: <> >Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 2:45 PM >Subject: Re: [68HC12] E128 Sector Erase > > Bruce, > > > > The S12FTS128KV1/D > > ><http://e-www.motorola.com/files/microcontrollers/doc/ref_manual/S12FTS128KV >1.pdf> > > document available on the E128 Product Summary page is not the correct > > Flash block guide for the E128. The E128 contains a single 128K flash > > block with a 1024 byte sector size. I'll notify the proper people to get > > the correct Block Guide on the web. > > > > Regards, > > Gordon > > > > Bruce McMillan wrote: > > > > >Hi, > > >Can anyone confirm that the sector erase size on the S12E128 is 512 > > >bytes - the module covering the Flash says both 512Bytes and 256Bytes. > > > > > >tks > > >Bruce > > > > > > > > > > > >-------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > >">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > =============================================================== > > Gordon Doughman Ph: 937-438-6811 > > Motorola Semiconductor Fax: 937-434-7457 > > Field Applications Engineer Pager: 800-759-8352 Pin: 1304089 > > Suite 175 > > 3131 Newmark Drive > > Miamisburg, OH 45342 > > > > Check out my HC12 book at: > > http://www.rtcbooks.com/programming.php > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------- > > > > > > > > ">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > >-------------------- > >">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Should be just a matter of changing the sector size variable in Gordon's code. The E128 EEPROM emulator code I posted to the files section of this list does this. bruce. --- In , "Ernie Barreyro" <ErnieBarreyro@P...> wrote: > Has anyone been succesful in converting the bootloader from a 256K device to > a 128K device - particularly the 9S12E128. I am in the process of doing > this and I have been getting the Flash Erase error. Perhaps, this corrected > info (below) on the sector size may help. Unfortunately, I can not try it > this time - I saw this info after I accidentally secured the micro. I tried > to unsecure it using PEMICRO unsecure_12 with no success. > > Ernie. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gordon Doughman" <g.doughman@m...> > To: <> > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 2:45 PM > Subject: Re: [68HC12] E128 Sector Erase > > Bruce, > > > > The S12FTS128KV1/D > > > <http://e-www.motorola.com/files/microcontrollers/doc/ref_manual/S12FTS128KV > 1.pdf> > > document available on the E128 Product Summary page is not the correct > > Flash block guide for the E128. The E128 contains a single 128K flash > > block with a 1024 byte sector size. I'll notify the proper people to get > > the correct Block Guide on the web. > > > > Regards, > > Gordon > > > > Bruce McMillan wrote: > > > > >Hi, > > >Can anyone confirm that the sector erase size on the S12E128 is 512 > > >bytes - the module covering the Flash says both 512Bytes and 256Bytes. > > > > > >tks > > >Bruce > > > > > > > > > > > >-------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > >">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > =============================================================== > > Gordon Doughman Ph: 937-438-6811 > > Motorola Semiconductor Fax: 937-434-7457 > > Field Applications Engineer Pager: 800-759-8352 Pin: 1304089 > > Suite 175 > > 3131 Newmark Drive > > Miamisburg, OH 45342 > > > > Check out my HC12 book at: > > http://www.rtcbooks.com/programming.php > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------- > > > > > > > > ">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > >

Has anyone been succesful in converting the bootloader from a 256K device to a 128K device - particularly the 9S12E128. I am in the process of doing this and I have been getting the Flash Erase error. Perhaps, this corrected info (below) on the sector size may help. Unfortunately, I can not try it this time - I saw this info after I accidentally secured the micro. I tried to unsecure it using PEMICRO unsecure_12 with no success. Ernie. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Doughman" <> To: <> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [68HC12] E128 Sector Erase > Bruce, > > The S12FTS128KV1/D > <http://e-www.motorola.com/files/microcontrollers/doc/ref_manual/S12FTS128KV 1.pdf> > document available on the E128 Product Summary page is not the correct > Flash block guide for the E128. The E128 contains a single 128K flash > block with a 1024 byte sector size. I'll notify the proper people to get > the correct Block Guide on the web. > > Regards, > Gordon > > Bruce McMillan wrote: > > >Hi, > >Can anyone confirm that the sector erase size on the S12E128 is 512 > >bytes - the module covering the Flash says both 512Bytes and 256Bytes. > > > >tks > >Bruce > > > > > > > >-------------------- > > > > > > > >">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > -- > =============================================================== > Gordon Doughman Ph: 937-438-6811 > Motorola Semiconductor Fax: 937-434-7457 > Field Applications Engineer Pager: 800-759-8352 Pin: 1304089 > Suite 175 > 3131 Newmark Drive > Miamisburg, OH 45342 > > Check out my HC12 book at: > http://www.rtcbooks.com/programming.php > -------------------- > > ">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Bruce, You may want to take a look at AN2302, EEPROM Emulation for the MC9S12C32, for some ideas on emulating EEPROM. You'll find that the techniques used in the app note use much less RAM than the size of a Flash sector. Regards, Gordon Bruce McMillan wrote: >Gordon, >thanks. I was intending to use the Flash as an EEPROM surrogate, so >then implications seem to be that >1.) I'll need to set aside 1KB of RAM (instead of 512B) to form the >sector to be written >2.) it needs to be executed from RAM - I wasn't expecting this. > >bruce > >--- In , Gordon Doughman <g.doughman@m...> wrote: > >>Bruce, >> >>The S12FTS128KV1/D >> >> ><http://e-www.motorola.com/files/microcontrollers/doc/ref_manual/S12FTS128KV1.pdf> > >>document available on the E128 Product Summary page is not the correct >>Flash block guide for the E128. The E128 contains a single 128K flash >>block with a 1024 byte sector size. I'll notify the proper people to >> >get > >>the correct Block Guide on the web. >> >>Regards, >>Gordon >> >>Bruce McMillan wrote: >> >> >>>Hi, >>>Can anyone confirm that the sector erase size on the S12E128 is 512 >>>bytes - the module covering the Flash says both 512Bytes and 256Bytes. >>> >>>tks >>>Bruce >>> >>> >>> >>>-------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>>">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >>> >>> >>-- >>=============================================================== >>Gordon Doughman Ph: 937-438-6811 >>Motorola Semiconductor Fax: 937-434-7457 >>Field Applications Engineer Pager: 800-759-8352 Pin: 1304089 >>Suite 175 >>3131 Newmark Drive >>Miamisburg, OH 45342 >> >>Check out my HC12 book at: >>http://www.rtcbooks.com/programming.php > > >-------------------- > >">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > -- =============================================================== Gordon Doughman Ph: 937-438-6811 Motorola Semiconductor Fax: 937-434-7457 Field Applications Engineer Pager: 800-759-8352 Pin: 1304089 Suite 175 3131 Newmark Drive Miamisburg, OH 45342 Check out my HC12 book at: http://www.rtcbooks.com/programming.php

Gordon, thanks. I was intending to use the Flash as an EEPROM surrogate, so then implications seem to be that 1.) I'll need to set aside 1KB of RAM (instead of 512B) to form the sector to be written 2.) it needs to be executed from RAM - I wasn't expecting this. bruce --- In , Gordon Doughman <g.doughman@m...> wrote: > Bruce, > > The S12FTS128KV1/D > <http://e-www.motorola.com/files/microcontrollers/doc/ref_manual/S12FTS128KV1.pdf> > document available on the E128 Product Summary page is not the correct > Flash block guide for the E128. The E128 contains a single 128K flash > block with a 1024 byte sector size. I'll notify the proper people to get > the correct Block Guide on the web. > > Regards, > Gordon > > Bruce McMillan wrote: > > >Hi, > >Can anyone confirm that the sector erase size on the S12E128 is 512 > >bytes - the module covering the Flash says both 512Bytes and 256Bytes. > > > >tks > >Bruce > > > > > > > >-------------------- > > > > > > > >">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > -- > =============================================================== > Gordon Doughman Ph: 937-438-6811 > Motorola Semiconductor Fax: 937-434-7457 > Field Applications Engineer Pager: 800-759-8352 Pin: 1304089 > Suite 175 > 3131 Newmark Drive > Miamisburg, OH 45342 > > Check out my HC12 book at: > http://www.rtcbooks.com/programming.php

I am working a project that uses: Mot MC9S12E128 Imagecraft IIC12 PRO PEmicro Multilink BDM Can you tell me please which PEMICRO programing algorithm I should Use? Do I have to convert my s records? Do I use LOGPHY or Sconvrt and what are the parameters. Thanks, Ernie