nyt wrote:
> Thanks,
> 
> but Is ImageCraft fully support my board and my programmer
> MSP430-JTAG(14.95$) parallel port JTAG from www.olimex.com ?
> 
> if so i will try ImageCraft first.
> 
> Regards,
> 

The Olimex parallel port JTAG adaptor is functionally identical to the 
TI MSP-FET.  It's smaller and cheaper, but the software can't see that!

Thanks,

but Is ImageCraft fully support my board and my programmer
MSP430-JTAG(14.95$) parallel port JTAG from www.olimex.com ?

if so i will try ImageCraft first.

Regards,

nyt wrote:
> Thanks Grant Edwards,
> 
> I ask this. I know that MSP430-JTAG is also for Flash Emulation but IAR
> has no model no match with MSP430 JTAG and only MSP-FETxxxxx nos so I
> am not sure and asked this.
> 
> And as I mentioined , IAR's C code limit is so bad, and as suggested
> above, I don't want to pay 100s of $$$ for IDE,
> 

ImageCraft's compiler is fully-functional for 45 days, then limited to 
4k code.  The licensed version is a lot cheaper than IAR, and the 
support is excellent.

mspgcc is probably the most powerful and flexible C compiler available 
for the msp430, and is certainly the best value for money in pure cash 
terms (being free).  But if you are not used to the world of gcc, you 
might have to do a bit more thinking, learning, and website reading, 
compared to the download-and-install ImageCraft compiler.


> so i think i have to try on MspGcc at that case
> where can i get good tutorials about mspgcc
> especially for msp430
> i found some, msp430.info and some, but just a little they explained..
> 
> Thanks  Chris Hills and Rich Webb
> 
> Regards
> mgemb
> 

In article <1141541532.396856.23230@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>, nyt
<naingye@gmail.com> writes
>Thanks Grant Edwards,
>
>I ask this. I know that MSP430-JTAG is also for Flash Emulation but IAR
>has no model no match with MSP430 JTAG and only MSP-FETxxxxx nos so I
>am not sure and asked this.
>
>And as I mentioined , IAR's C code limit is so bad,

It is very good for a Free version of a commercial compiler. The full
compiler has no limit.

> and as suggested
>above, I don't want to pay 100s of $$$ for IDE,

You are not paying for an IDE but a very good compiler. 


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Thanks Grant Edwards,

I ask this. I know that MSP430-JTAG is also for Flash Emulation but IAR
has no model no match with MSP430 JTAG and only MSP-FETxxxxx nos so I
am not sure and asked this.

And as I mentioined , IAR's C code limit is so bad, and as suggested
above, I don't want to pay 100s of $$$ for IDE,

so i think i have to try on MspGcc at that case
where can i get good tutorials about mspgcc
especially for msp430
i found some, msp430.info and some, but just a little they explained..

Thanks  Chris Hills and Rich Webb

Regards
mgemb

On 2006-03-04, mgemb <nyt2005@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am testing IAR Kickstart to program MSP430 EasyWeb3 board .
> I want to program and debug this board by using MSP430-JTAG
> (cost 14.95$) from
> http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=15
>
> But I only found MSP-FET tools for debug, how can I configure to debug
> and program with this MSP430-JTAG on my board

Anything that will work with the parallel port FET will work
with the Olimex one that sparkfun sells.  Is that what you're
asking?

-- 
Grant Edwards
grante@visi.com

In article <1141482096.207898.75020@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>, mgemb
<nyt2005@gmail.com> writes
>Thanks to  Chris Hills
>
>, but I found in the specifacation page of MSP430-JTAG that it can use
>with IAR Kickstart,
>
>Another problem is that, I also found that only 2k limit of C Code can
>write in IAR Kickstart.

That is because the Kickstart version is free. You could buy various
versions including the base line version which has a 12K limit for C
code. 

>How i can overcome it. i am not expert in Asembly to change.

1 Learn assembly. You should do this anyway. It is important to
understand the architecture and how it works with assembly even if
normally 99% of your work is in C

2 Buy the base line version not cheap but not expensive either for a
good quality compiler. 


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On 4 Mar 2006 06:21:36 -0800, "mgemb" <nyt2005@gmail.com> wrote:

>Thanks to  Chris Hills
>
>, but I found in the specifacation page of MSP430-JTAG that it can use
>with IAR Kickstart,
>
>Another problem is that, I also found that only 2k limit of C Code can
>write in IAR Kickstart.
>How i can overcome it.

Only by buying a full license from IAR. Did that at work. Good compiler
but expensive and (at least at the time) updates need a current, paid-up
maintenance contract.

> i am not expert in Asembly to change.
>
>I have to try with hard MSPgcc or other good and cheap :) way available

Another option is the ICC430 compiler from Imagecraft. Not free but not
expensive either, and quite easy/fast to get up and running. The
compiler's IDE supports the TI FET device and so, presumably, it would
work with the Sparkfun clone.
http://www.imagecraft.com/software/

-- 
Rich Webb   Norfolk, VA

Thanks to  Chris Hills

, but I found in the specifacation page of MSP430-JTAG that it can use
with IAR Kickstart,

Another problem is that, I also found that only 2k limit of C Code can
write in IAR Kickstart.
How i can overcome it. i am not expert in Asembly to change.

I have to try with hard MSPgcc or other good and cheap :) way available
? 

Regards,
mgemb

In article <1141473472.840592.218000@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
mgemb <nyt2005@gmail.com> writes
>Hi,
>
>I am testing IAR Kickstart to program MSP430 EasyWeb3 board .
>I want to program and debug this board by using MSP430-JTAG (cost 14.95
>$) from
>http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=15
>
>But I only found MSP-FET tools for debug, how can I configure to debug
>and program with this MSP430-JTAG on my board
>

I think you will find that the best bet is the IAR J-link or the Segger
J-link which are not quite the same thing (though both made by Segger)

Unless your time is free writing the interface software in more trouble
than it is worth. Also you will have to uses the more limited RDI
interface.

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